I took Tony Rose's [Anthony Palmisano] information as a reference from my mother. She found his name in the Piscataway paper and seemed to be having a good experience, so I contacted him. While still committed to my mother's kitchen remodel job, Tony came to my house and checked out what I wanted done. My detached garage had been hit by a tree during Hurricane Sandy. Due to the damage and town ordinance, my garage was going to have to be fully torn down including the foundation and footings. We agreed on a 21x21 OR a 22x22 garage with 2 carport doors and a side entrance. He quoted me 25k for the entire job including a new 200 amp panel in the house. He said it would be fine if it ended up being bigger either way by a foot. I asked how he could provide such a low price, and he told me that he had guys he worked with all the time, and they come down on labor costs for him. He also said he was going to frame most of it himself which would bring costs down. Tony came to my house with a contract on Saturday January 19 2013. We talked about the job and we all signed the contract. The contract asked for 4 payments, broken down in order of $12,500 , $6,500 , $4,500 and $1,500. I explained that we hadn't gotten the insurance money yet, and that we would need until Tuesday after the holiday to give him a check. He asked for a post dated check, to which we refused and insisted he wait until Tuesday. My wife and I told him we couldn't at least 10 times before he finally let up about it and agreed to let us give him the first check on Tuesday. Later that day [19th] I went to my local bank branch to get my insurance check processed. Since the check amount was higher than the bank could endorse at the local branch, they had to send it in to be endorsed by another department. They also require some further information from the builder during and after the job is done to get the entirety of the check. I spoke with my architect and showed her the contract, from which she created a 21x22 garage, and pointed out some things that needed to be changed on the contract to amend some code violations. She also said that his contract was doing something called "Front Loading" and that I should ask if we could switch the first and second payments just to make sure he doesn't run off with the money. I figured it couldn't hurt to ask. I called Tony on Sunday January 20th 2013 to discuss the changes, all of which he agreed to. He then amended the contract, signed it and emailed it to me awaiting my signature. While we were exchanging emails, I requested that he send me his W9 and some basic info on his company for transmittance to my bank. He quickly sent it to me and all was going well. I woke up on Monday January 21st 2013 to a 4:30am email stating that he reworked the numbers and has to walk from the job. The following emails will speak for themselves as to the unprofessional actions and reactions of this builder. My advice is to avoid him. He promises low prices but its at the sacrifice of quality and possibly safety. """"" On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Anthony Palmisano wrote: Good morning Nick. I just got up. I usually get up at 5 am every morning but I fell asleep last night during the football game. Nick I have to withdraw from the job. I had added the 2 x 12, the 5/8 playwood the additional lights. The 200 amp service and so on. I reviewed the whole job again. I cannot do the job for that price. I tried to cut down all the labor cost but it will not work. Please understand I wouldn't hurt anyone, but it has been bothering me all the way to yesterday. There is no way as I kept going over the figures with my cousin and one of my carpenters, my excavator, my concrete people and my electrician. I guess thats why I couldn't sleep. My 2 carpenters + myself and 1 helper would not make any money on the job. I would like to withdraw my contract. I am not looking to go back on my word but it cannot be done. I would never charge you more money in the middle of the job, I am not that kind of a builder. We will also probably need a power beam for the ceiling joists and thats more money. The span is 21 feet, unless the 2 x12 ceiling joists would make it or they would have to be 12" on center not 16" on center. The job would cost me $29,300 and that is without my business making one red cent. I cannot even add in the 6.5% to cover my business insurances and so on. I don't shop at home depot. I get all my lumber from somerville because it is quality lumber and I never got one call back for bad material or workmanship. I also contacted my garage door people and everything is going up in price. Although there was a recession, the material did not decline at all. Please don't be upset with me. I am only saving us both heart ache. I tried to save you money but I am only hurting my self. I know you said you would pay for some extras but it is not necessary to use 2x 12 ceiling joists or 2x 12 rafters and 5/8 plywood. it's an overkill. Take a ride to [*someone's personal address removed*]. in martineville you will see a 2 story home that was a ranch house and I added a level of 2000 sq ft on it. I redone the entire house. We used 2x8 ceiling jopists and 2x 10 rafters and 1/2" plywood with metal clips. You can check with the Bridgewater Building Department. That job passed every inspection all the way to the C of O The owner is[*removed for privacy*]. I am so sorry, as I like you, your mom and your wife but it would not be fair. We both have to be happy. I consider myself a darn good builder with 35 years experience. The job with all the things we talked about should go for at least $37,000 including the 200 amp service and the 2 home runs. I have another carpenter going to your moms house tomorrow and I will be there at 7 am. There is some back up work that I want done tomorrow for sure. I gave mom an extra room all tile floor and the 2 outlets and the new washing machine vales at no cost to her. Why ! she is a real nice person that deserves it. It had nothing to do with your job or anyone elses. I always get work but this garage got to me. I am truly sorry Nick. I am sure you can get it done out there but be careful, Many people are getting hurt in my trade. Again I am sorry. Tony PS. If there is anyway I can help you I would do so. My intentions are honest. It would be very easy to take your check and latter say hey Nick I ran out of money. I am old school I don't work that way. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Nicholas wrote: Tony, Knowing what you know now about the job, how much would you do it for? ~Nick Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:27 PM Anthony Palmisano wrote: Hi Nick Linda had gotten sick about 5 am this morning and I had called the ems people but she would not go to the hospital so I called her 3 brothers and now she is resting in bed. She will be ok . She fell on nov 9 and went to the hospital because she hurt her head and ribs in the bathroom. I just talked to the doctor and he said let her rest and I will bring her to him tomorrow. She's ok I just panic I guess. I left you a message on you phone to call me. It was meant to be that I got up at 3 am this morning. I talked to your mom and she will be done today thank god. It's so tight there but it looks nice. Nick I don't know what to say I guess it's partially my fault. I have to do what the plans say to do. I don't mind what ever you use is fine with me but I can do the job with everything we have now except the 200 amp service box and home runs(2) for $32,600. I would let you deal with the service box and 2 home runs with my electrician. I don't have to be part of that. he's a real good electrician. I would write that in my contract and be also responsibile for him. He has done major work for me in the past. I am not out to hurt you but I don't want to get hurt either. I do have everyone lined up but my excavator, concrete guys wouls understand if the job didn't take place. Sometimes things happen but as I said better now than latter. I would not charge people more money in the middle of the job. Please accept my apoligy. The one thing I would do is, because I feel alittle at faul,t is make the garage 22"wide x 24'deep. Tony """" I didn't respond to that last email because, at this point, I know I'm not using this guy for anything and I didn't want my decision to effect the work he's doing at my mothers house. I guess that struck a nerve because this email followed. """"" Anthony Palmisano Jan 22 at 1:40 PM Hi Nick maybe you didn't believe me that I have been building since I was 23 years old. Your architect is 100% wrong. He is making you build this garage for airplanes to land on. Tell your architect to get a code book. page 375 out of code book 2009 which is still used presently. Look at my sketch and take it to your building dept. inspector. This will pass with flying colors. a) 2 x 10 douglas fir rafters 16 " on center b) 1/2" plywood sheathing (4ply) with metal H clips. c) 2x 6 collar ties don't have to tie every rafter but I do anyway. I can understand if you don't want the job but please tell your architect what I forgot he or she is still learning. PS. Please shred my info that I had sent you, this has my personal info on it and I don't need it out there. Again I'm sorry I meant no harm but you could of emailed me as man to man that we both are, and say hey Tony I cannot afford your price. Architects use pens and pencils I am a builder and refused to be insulted. You're a nice guy Nick but your architect is only costing you money for nothing. Have a great day !! """""" P.S. His subcontractor walked off the job today at my mother's house because Tony refused to pay him. My mother and the subcontractor called the police after Tony made threats that his cousin would put the subcontractor 'in a box' if he didn't finish.