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"This was a unique project because our house is a mid-century, California Contemporary with an open floor plan. We wanted to update the kitchen to a contemporary" look that would fit with the architecture. This presented a challenge because one wall of cabinets, including a vented range hood had to be free standing. The old ones were sagging because of poor support. We chose
because after looking over the job, he gave us a very practical, unique and cost effective solution that ended up giving the kitchen a beautiful one of a kind look. His pricing was accurate and fair. We especially appreciated his willingness to provide opinions and guidance based on his experience. His son did some amazing finished carpentry work. That is hard to find these days. There were a couple hitches that were encountered along way, as with any remodel in a 50 year old house, but
and his team resolved them all with ingenuity and always had our satisfaction as the top priority. For those jobs that required sub-contractors, he brought in specialists who took pride in their work and provided their own expertise. In one case, the tile specialist spotted a problem with the backslash we had selected, causing us to change the selection. In summary,
's team did a great job from start to finish. Their pride in their work and budget consciousness were obvious. We ended up with the project looking even better than our original vision and it stayed within budget. We're totally happy. We would definitely recommend him for any project you have.

-David S.

"On the positive side, there is always someone to answer the phone when you call and the women who work in the office are generally friendly. In addition, the electricians" who came to my house were punctual (actually, to be picky, they were early and calling me at work to see if I could be there to let them in before the scheduled time) and reasonably courteous. Nevertheless, the price of
's electrical services left me flummoxed and, coupled with the level of service they provided, I am disinclined to use their services again in the future. To begin, they charge about $50 just to drive to your house--no work, just driving, and this fee applies regardless of your location. Then it's over $100 per hour on top of that once they get to the house and start working (somewhat less for the apprentice they brought along to assist). The rate struck me as particularly outrageous because they seem to bring absolutely nothing with them in their truck and, while still on the clock, they thus had to conveniently run back to get supplies. Moreover, they charged me for the time they spent sitting in the truck writing out the bill. Admittedly, I'm new to Grand Rapids and I suppose it's possible that
's fees are on par with the average electrician here. But, I grew up in upstate NY, where my parents still pay their electrician $40 per hour and he drives to their house for free. In the end, unfortunately, I just felt ripped off. For the price I paid, I would expect exemplary service and professionalism. But, in addition to the outlandish price, I was also not wowed by the quality of the service provided. After the electrician finished, a patio light which previously worked without incident now trips the ground fault protection they installed and as a result turns off half the lights in my house. In my mind, this was a result of what they did and should be corrected. When I called, they said "maybe" it would be included in the cost of work already performed, but it could be additional billable hours; they couldn't say for sure until someone came out to the house again. Of course, them simply coming here will run me $50 and only then will I know if I will be charged additional funds for actual work. So, I said forget it. If I'm going to pay more money, I'm going to give someone else a try. In their response below,
suggests they would not have charged me $50 for a return visit to my house. That fact was never communicated to me--which suggests it's either not true or, at a minimum, their communication skills are lacking. Further, they suggest they may not be responsible for the work because they did not ground my patio light. This is news to me. They installed ground protection on my electrical panel--I was left with the impression that this covered the whole house. Apparently not. I paid almost $900 and I didn't even get the services I thought they were providing. It might have been helpful if they explained to me the exactly what they were doing and what it would accomplish. But, apparently that's asking to much. Also, if they were only grounding portions of the house, at a minimum, they should have told me to potentially expect problems with un-ground portions. No, at a minimum, true professionals would have gone through my house and made sure everything was in operating order before leaving. My house is tiny; it would have taken 5 minutes to flip all the switches and ensure everything was working properly. Also, small point, but when installing new outlets, they damaged my wall. It's minor damage that i was able to fix with some spackle and paint, but it was annoying nonetheless. In addition, they drilled a hole in my garage for an outlet and then, for some reason, could not actually put an outlet there. So, without apology for putting a useless hole in my wall, they stuck a tacky looking cover on it (and I then had to pay for the cover). It's my garage, so it's not the end of the world, but still, it doesn't leave one feeling impressed with the quality of work. Overall, I'm sure I could have done worse than
, but I find it hard to believe that I can't do better. Consequently, I can't envision myself using their electricalservices again.

-Brighid B.

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THE Cost of the recessed light is largly determinate on Where ,You purchase the product and the number you buy .Big Box dicount stores have products made oversea's that are less expensive than those found at Custom Bath & Kitchen Stores , but the products are often riddled with problems , missing parts , defects etc,


A typical light will run $ 35.00 to $ 85.00


However , the true cost of recessed lighting is involved in getting circuits or circuity to the switch and lighting system .In NEW construction , this matter is easily dealt with by installing circuits and   hardware during framing . Whereas , with remodeling , installing new lighting into existing spaces , requires wall & ceiling opening ,closure , repair , repainting & finishing


I have been involved in projects where the lighting cost but $500.00 ,,

while the installation & finishing costs exceeded $ 2500.00


Here is about the same question (for 1 fan) a while back, with answer:


Your total cost could be from 1.5-3 times that shown in the answer, depending on how much of the wiring for the three fans he can combine - i.e. can he easily run one power circuit for all 3 fans, then just tap off that for switches and runs to the fans, are they fans only or with lights (double the wiring and switches), etc. Note the costs do NOT include drywall/panelling repair or painting to match. Also, you are going to be near the top end of the estimates, because in all probability your access is poor, and 3 fans are almost certain to require a totally new run from the breaker box.

Unless you have an open exposed-joist attic above where the fans are to go AND the top of the walls the switches will go in, you can expect substantial holes in walls and ceiling to pull the wires and fasten them - by code, you cannot just pull wires between joist and let them lie on the top of the ceiling drywall - you have to staple them to joists every few feet, so you end up with several 1-2 foot holes typically near top of the wall (to drill through top plate), near side of ceiling to grab and bend wire coming up wall, and maybe one mid-ceiling to reach in and fasten wire, then of course the two openings that are ultimately fully concealed by the switch plate and the fan mounting plate or dome.

Before you get into this project I would check with the condo management if you are allowed to do this - there are limits to how much you can modify your condo and how much you can modify or add in the way of electric circuits.


Ahhhh - the light bulb comes on - but I didn't see the rabbit - it must have made it down the hole. Was I right about you upgrading the bulbs from a lower wattage, and that is when they started going out ?


I seriously doubt it is the track, from what you say and especially since the one head works fine at various places along the track. My guess - because these are apparently 110V track but 12V transformer INSIDE the head that mounts to the track, I would say it is the transformer overheating - a VERY common thing with modern electronics and cheap transformers from China. Commonly they have a thermal protector that cuts out when overheated, but overheating 2 or 3 times is normally fatal for them. I bet the transformers have fried, and that even the ones still working are smoked and probably have deformed plastic around them.


The unit is rated to 75W max, and the bulbs you have are 75W and of a design that provides little airflow around them (zero if you are using the glass cover plates for the heads) and has a lot of heat in the upper portion of it - in my opinion just another dumb design. I will give 10:1 odds there are not air holes in the top of the heads either - UL should ban that practice. 


Personally, if it were all new I would return it all for my money back right off. Since the track and some heads are old and you are invested in them already, I would gather up receipts and eMail the manufacturer about the issue, and the number of heads that have gone out (old and new combined) and see what they say. I would suspect they will offer to at least send replacements if you send the receipts and bad heads. I would then return any unused bulbs for credit to wherever you got them, and get different bulbs. You will have to ask the manufacturer if the transformer circuitry can handle MR16 GU5.3 base LED bulbs - Amazon has them, if your heads can take them - will run a LOT cooler. Otherwise, 50 Watt Halogen bulbs should fit and might run cool enough to not overheat ?


With transformers in the heads, I would use LED bulbs if compatible with transformer and circuitry.


BTW - you did not say if you tried the "dead" bulbs in the "good" heads - my guess (do just a short test) is they will work, and the bulbs are not the problem at all - it is the transformers.


Your other option. and what I would do unless you are attached to this style fixture or it is mounted to ceiling permanently and you do not know how to change it (or don't want to), so would cost about $125 for an electrician to come out: is to get what you can in refund from the manufacturer (or distributor, if they have good defect return policy), scrap the whole system, and save a LOT of money in the long run on energy costs by going to a 120V CFL or LED bulb system. Use LED if this is a short-term use system, or CFL only if one that will be on for many hours at a time - they burn out quick in frequent short use applications, but go seems like forever in long term use. I have one 60W (equivalent) GE CFL that I use as a nightlight but stays on 24/365 and has been on continuously for over 4 years without burning out. A number of identical ones we tried in applications where they were only on for a few minutes at a time went back under warranty after in a few months. If you are looking for a true "spot" light, then I recommend LED anyway, unless you don't like their "artificial" light.


Here is the info sheet on your unit, with company contact info at bottom:



Depends a tremendous amount on access - if accessible from exposed-joist in attic above, then you might get this for about $300-500 or so for the wiring and installation, plus $200-400 for the materials and dimmer switches, plus the cost of the light fixtures themselves. Probably about $100-150 to repair ceiling if single hole for one fixture, to $200-300 if existing trough-type flourescent fixtures. Painting the repair could be $100 - 250 depending on whether he can match the patch, or has to repaint the entire ceiling to get a uniform effect - which is more common in kitchens, which usually have untextured ceilings and gloss paint. Another alternative it is have the hole patched and prime and plain paint it yourself, then cover the area with a decorative emblem or crest to avoid having to repaint the whole ceiling. Personally I would just put a compatible style fixture in its place, which you might or might not choose to use, so you avoid the cost of repairing the hole and painting entirely, as that is "lost" $.

If the kitchen/dining room ceiling is not accessible from above, then the electrician will have to tear into wall and ceilings, so installation labor might go to $400-600, and drywall reapir and painting probably to about $400-600, depending on how many holes the elecrtrician has to put in and assuming entire surface painting to get a uniform paint look on each disturbed wall or ceiling.

One possibility for savings might be low voltage lighting for some of the kithcen fixtures, which might reduce your wiring cost and number of holes if you do not have attic access.

Be careful on the dimmable LED bulbs - be aware that dimmable bulbs generally cost a lot more, and many brands don't perform well in dimming mode because they are designed to run at a constant voltage, and a lot will not dim past about 40% power before they flick out or start flickering. Some will actually fry the electronics and burn up at lower voltage. Also, there are three different types of dimmers and different bulbs need a different type dimmer switch, so you will have to be careful to always buy the right type bulb, and use all the same type bulb in a given circuit. Here is an article on the types of problmes you can have with LED dimming, even with bulbs designed to be dimmed -


Lighting Installation reviews in Grand Rapids


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has done numerous things for us at our home and rental home. He has installed new lighting, repaired drywall/plaster, installed new kitchen sink, faucet, bathroom vanity and faucet, ran electric and installed a new ceiling fixture, built a deck, installed a new door, etc. He does quality work and is very affordable.
- John A.

The company is very prompt in their customer contact and tries hard to
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your business. They contacted me after I had originally canceled due to a fee issue to offer a compromise. Scheduling was easy and I received an email with a picture of the electrician who was to do work at my house. I got a 15 minute courtesy call before the electrician showed up and the electrician was prompt. The electrician was respectful of my property and got right to work after I agreed on the estimate. He did not try to stall for time to pad the bill. I decided on the additional wiring after the fan was installed and the electrician didn't show any annoyance when I changed my mind. He finished the job and everything worked just fine.
- Mila W.

We liked him very much. We had him just once. He was recommended to us by the company from where we got our lighting. He was very pleasant. He was very neat. We had already bought the lighting fixtures and he did that for us. He charged us for that. On top of that he put up a ceiling fan in our bedroom with the same cost. He did a very nice job with that. He was again very pleasant and very neat. He did a good job. It’s hard to gauge the price because I
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’t know what somebody else would charge to do the same work. He put on special booties when he came into our house. So he didn’t get the carpeting and things dirty which I appreciate anyway. He was punctual. We will use his services again in the future.
- Peter R.

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sent his employee
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, who arrived early. Very friendly and personable.
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figured out how to run a line for GFGI up from the basement and added an outlet in a wall being reconstructed. He split a breaker into two circuits for the new wiring (my terminology may be off). Knowing that I like to know what's going on,
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explained the missteps made by another party who'd attempted to run the wiring. He was very fast and efficient, git 'er done.
- Karen D.

Fabulous experience; I recommend them without hesitation. Each time I spoke with
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he was very pleasant and professional, and so was his staff.
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was great too and he had some good advice about getting our home '
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ready'. In May,
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communicated with me and kept me updated about the need to go by our house, find the necessary sash to fix the window, and on the cost. I know for a fact that having them spruce up our house played a major part in getting a good offer on our home and getting it sold and closed within only two months (Feb. 20th - May 30th). Also, this house is in Michigan and we were told by our realtor that the Michigan housing
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(when we first put it on the
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in Feb.) was one of the worst markets in the country. Our home sold quickly and the ONLY thing we did was have
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make small repairs and fixes, change some light bulbs inside and outside, apply some paint, and repair the window (and also have the carpet steam cleaned by another company). No regrets....I am satisfied and I now have high expectations of the
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servicer in the Atlanta, GA area.

I've had two experiences with them. The same guy has come out both times and he was very helpful. He wanted to know if there was anything else he could help with and I had him look at my bathroom sink. He didn't fix it, but he was able to tell me what the problem was. He was a really nice guy. They bill you for the service. I will absolutely use him again.
- Jody H.

No communication. I did not know when they would show up or return. Several days I left my house key
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outside, but they never showed, didn't call. This was a referral from a slow-moving handyman and a slow-moving construction guy. I should have seen this coming. Job was quoted at $500. They stopped work (leaving wires hanging from ceiling) and said that they needed to invoice me. The bill arrives, and it's for $800.00.
- Karen D.

They did a great job. They were very professional and polite when they were at my house. They also did a few extra things while they were there and they didn't charge me for it. They charged me for the work they were hired for.

Lighting Companies in Grand Rapids

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A Lawn By Me

6186 Fordwick dr

Alcam Signs and Lighting

2750 Burlingame Ave SW

All Aspects Electric Inc.

2027 14 Mile NE
Grand Rapids


Sand Lake

Amp Electric

4910 S Hilton Park Rd

Bazen Electric Co

750 Ball Ave NE
Grand Rapids

Beckett Home Improvement

1348 Front Ave NW
Grand Rapids

Bender Maintenance and Home Improvement

2525 East Paris Ave SE
Grand Rapids

Bridge St. Electric

812 Bridge St NW
Grand Rapids


PO Box 150314
Grand Rapids

Bruce Jennings Builders

6961 Cannonsburg Rd

Cardinal Remodeling & Design LLC

1677 Gentian Dr SE
Grand Rapids

Carmichael Heating & Air Conditioning

2711 Whitehall Rd



CKL Construction LLC

1501 Hidden Creek Cir Dr
Grand Rapids

Classic Copper Works

9443 Cossey Road

CM Electric LLC

1040 Arianna NW
Grand Rapids

Control Electric Inc

6725 Old 28th SE
Grand Rapids

Custom Upgrades, LLC.

747 44th St SW

De Jonge Electric

6330 68th Street se

Deweerd & Van Dyke Inc

3790 Chicago Dr

Dursko Electric llc

Cedar Springs





Flat River Electric LLC,

218 S. Washington St

Garden Doctor

2974 28th Street SW


Grand Rapids


8851 Peterson St. NE.

Grand Rapids Lighting Centers

3800 29th St SE
Grand Rapids


Grand Rapids

Haveman Electrical Services Inc

165 E 19Th St


Grand Rapids



HWC Home Works Corporation

2010 Porter St SW
Grand Rapids


Grand Rapids


601 5TH ST NW
Grand Rapids

Jacobsen Remodeling Inc

401 Hall St SW
Grand Rapids

Jim Burns Electric

620 Graceland St NE
Grand Rapids

JS Garrett

6521 Samrick A


Grand Rapids

Key Electric Service Inc

4716 Hall SE
Grand Rapids


2215 29th St SE
Grand Rapids


Grand Rapids

Martin and Martin Builders

4140 Blue Heron Dr SE Apt 203
Grand Rapids


Grand Rapids

Michigan's West Coast Remodeling

562 Liberty
Grand Rapids


7221 Davies Dr NE

Mr. Handyman of Greater Grand Rapids

3850 29th St SE
Grand Rapids

New Leaf Construction LLC

1251 Century SW
Grand Rapids



Perkins Custom Remodeling

1338 Franklin St SE
Grand Rapids

Popeye Rays Paint And More

1354 Vineland ct se
Grand Rapids

Prestige Home Improvement

429 West Mill Street


6655 Madison Ave SE
Grand Rapids

Quality Electric Co. Inc.

11500 7 Mile

Rockets DJ Service LLC.

1256 Seneca st SW



Rycenga Building Ctr

1053 Jackson St
Grand Haven

Set Apart Construction

9844 Byron Center Ave SW
Byron Center

Sikma Construction Services LLC

2300 Lake Michigan Dr NW
Grand Rapids

Siler Builders LLC

2483 Northville Dr NE
Grand Rapids


4650 Moore Street

Solarian US

2617 Saint Davids Lane


427 54TH ST SW
Grand Rapids


3112 Kensboro Ave NE
Grand Rapids

Tandem Electric

5945 Airline Rd # B


Grand Rapids

The Service Professor Inc

4770 50th Street SE
Grand Rapids

Thompson Remodeling

Grand Rapids

Tim Higbee

1835 Martin Ave SE
Grand Rapids

Total Outdoor Services

1031 Merrifield S.E
Grand Rapids

Town & Country Group


Van's Handyman

1042 Brentwood St

Vander Hyde

1058 Scribner Ave NW
Grand Rapids


345 N MAIN
Cedar Springs

VerPlank Electric Inc

2890 Woodsboro Dr NE
Grand Rapids


3854 Broadmoor Ave SE Ste 106
Grand Rapids

Webb Electric

1675 Michigan Street NE
Grand Rapids

WellHome of Grandville

3030 Sangra Ave

Whitney Electric & Plumbing

3120 Kenyon Ln


Grand Rapids

Wireworks Electric Inc

PO Box 888312
Grand Rapids


6301 136TH AVE

Worry-Free Handyman Service

4713 Drummond blvd SE
Grand Rapids

YESCO Sign & Lighting Service

4964 Starr Dr SE
Grand Rapids

Zeeland Lumber

143 E Washington Ave

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