Is Your Contractor Bullying You?

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Ex contractor never paid any of us subs on time!!!! We had to chase down our $$! He got off duping countless homeowners. He had a criminal history a mile long. He owed suppliers, he would rename his LLC's umpteen times (which is a huge red flag in business.) He didn't give a flying crap about anyone or anything. Drug issues, drinking issues, partying issues, womanizing, blaming homeowners. Life was but a big old joke and party on everyone else dime and time. Do your RESEARCH before hiring any of them, working for any of them, or dealing with any of them.


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I signed a contract with a contractor. Within the 3 day back out period I get a much better quote and I tell the contractors I am backing out. The contractor got mad and start sprout a lot of things…we got great reviews…we can do addition plus update current bathroom for 85k…my budget was not that high, never was. Finally the straw that turned it upside down and big red flag…"you owe me money…more money!” me, HUH seriously I almost started laughing but decided not to bc the guy was plain serious. I asked him how much and he could NOT give me an exact amount…basically he had to go check. I go back to the contract stating I could cancel within 3 days of signing and the deposit of 1K would be refunded. NO the contractor said it’s not refundable. BIG WARNING SIGN. At this time I ask to call the contractors office…I could see he was not comfortable but he did. Went to voicemail. I calming talked to him and went back to the contract over and over and that what he was asking for is not anywhere in the contract…and that I don’t owe him any money. He left believing he was going to keep my deposit and I contacted his office same day and mailed out a certified letter state cancellation of job….owner gets back to me in an hour I told him I wanted my 1k deposit back. He finally agrees after much frustration on his end. I am a married women in my 30’s with kids. I was bullied by a grown man in my own house. If I see or get approached by them again I will call the police. Hope this NEVER happens to anyone.


Subject: Harassment

A contractor & crew are doing a 4-year siding job at our condo complex. They started bullying me right out of the gate after I nicely refused to do business with them when they did not provide me with a written estimate for a potential new window replacement. They just ordered the windows, said they were approved and expected me to allow them to remove my old ones from the outside and enter my home while I was gone. Now they continually block my driveway so they can be rude when I ask them to move their trucks, so I can get to work. Then they try to scare me or mildly threaten me with odd comments about how long they will be working here. After work today I just thought, 'what jerks.' I appreciate your website and very ethical business...if it gets strange here I will call the police. Thanks Angie's List. :)


Subject: Threats

"We'll take care of it our OWN WAY" QUOTE... tells his 17yo son to call and threaten us." you owe my dad 650 bucks! hes got it all on paper!" ...he informed us after a month he gets paid from when he leaves his house...I said no you don't...worked at milking us for 3 months. snails pace. We cut the cord with a 600 payment then he wants more.
Slow overly talkative mental case keeps adding to the bill when he went over our 2500 a thousand. then more....then more...upwards of 5000. barely a shed.
When do I call police? when they vandalize us or beat up my 62 year old girlfriend?

Amanda Koelsch

Subject: WOW!

It is hard to believe there is some really shady characters in the construction business. But alas, you hear horror story after horror story about services not being provided as promised. This just illuminates the importance of doing research prior to signing anything. Finding reputable contractors is so very important! Thanks for the article!

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I second the original question (still unanswered). Speaking as someone who logged in today to try to find an attorney, I see this category as one that's exactly what I have my Angie's List membership for:

1. It's important that I find a good one
2. I'm not an expert enough to know myself who is a good one
3. The industry is full of advertisements and misinformation
4. I wish I knew what experiences other people have had

I don't care about lawns--I planted mine in clover and don't have to mow it. When I do need to mow I use a rotary Fiskars mower, which is great--or a scythe. That's right--a scythe (the European type, which is smaller, and it's very good exercise). Gas-powered mowers, chemical fertilizers and weed killers--all nasty stuff that gets into everyone's air, soil, and water. I'm sure my neighbor doesn't like my wildflowers, semi-wild pockets of fruit bushes, and unmown areas and yes, dandelions (I have 10 acres) but that's too bad. It's better habitat for wildlife, especially the pollinators on which our food supply depends. I think this obsession with the Great American Lawn is a waste of time and resources. Plant some food instead.

I'm not sure Angie et. al. want you to have a complete answer to this question. By re-subscribing at the Indiana State Fair in 2012, I think I paid $20.00 per year for a multi- year subscription. Maybe even less. At the other extreme--and I hope my memory isn't faulty about this--I think the price, for my area, for ONE year was an outrageous $70.00. And they debited me automatically without warning. I had to opt out of that automatic charge. I like Angie's List, but if some of the companies they monitor behaved the way they do in this respect, they'd be on some sort of Pages of Unhappiness. I'll be interested to see if this comment gets published or censored out of existence.

That's very difficult to answer without seeing the house. As one poster said, the prep is the most important part. On newer homes that don't have a lot of peeling paint, the prep can be very minimal even as low as a couple or a few hundred dollars for the prep labor.

On a 100 year old home with 12 coats of peeling paint on it, then the prep costs can be very high and can easily exceed 50% of the job's labor cost.

A 2100 sq ft two story home could easily cost $1000 just for the labor to prep for the paint job. That number could climb too. Throw in lots of caullking  or window glazing, and you could be talking a couple or a few hundred dollars more for labor.

Painting that home with one coat of paint and a different color on the trim could run roughly $1000 or more just for labor. Add a second coat  and that could cost close to another $1000 for labor.

For paint, you may need 20 gallons of paint. You can pay from $30-$70 for a gallon of good quality exterior paint. The manufacturer of the paint should be specified in any painting contract. Otherwise, the contractor could bid at a Sherwin-Williams $60 per gallon paint and then paint the house with $35 Valspar and pocket the difference. $25 dollars per gallon times 20 gallons? That's a pretty penny too.

That was the long answer to your question. The short answer is $2000 to $4000 and up, depending upon the amount of prep, the number of coats, the amount of trim, and the paint used.