Roofing Scam: The Disappearing Down Payment

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La Laaa

Subject: ASAP ROOFING FORGED MY CHECK

Don't ever use ASAP ROOFING!! Every single home that used them in my neighborhood is unhappy and miserable right now. I got the worse case. They forged my check that was issued to me, my husband, and the mortgage company. The mortgage company never received the check and it has been cashed weeks ago.

La Laaa

Subject: Roofer Scam

ASAP ROOFING is dishonest, terrible customer service. Their sales rep sold me wrong shingles in color, he told me they were HOA approved but I found out they weren't. Asap is not willing to replace the roof again and said that I couldn't proof that their sales rep told me it was approved. Better yet, I gave them a check little over $10.000. They were supposed to mail it to my mortgage company for me.

I made a deposit $250'which was promised to me to get it back. After weeks when I called them to ask about the check, and tell them that I like to discontinue service with them because I couldn't get a hold of nobody for weeks, I found out they've cashed my check and they promised I would get my deposit back.

Another week later they refused to release the $250 to me. On top of that I found out that the mortgage company never recieved the check. They have signed the check somehow, endorsed it and cashed it. The insurance, mortgage company, and I know now and we are waiting for answers. I'm pretty sure they are getting ready to get in biiiiig trouble!!!!

Kathleen Degelmann

Subject: We have been scammed by roofers too

Hi, We, too, think we have been scammed by Windy City. We are in some contact, but we gave him $10,000 last Dec. and the weather is nice now & they keep putting us off. Can we take them to small claims or anything?

Dbanister

Subject: Scam

We were recently scammed by a roofing company as well. We have filed for a warrant hearing with our magistrate judge. We are trying to have them charged with criminal charges. These people need to be stopped!

Charity

Subject: What to do? - victim of a Roofing scam: disappearing downpayment

We were victims of this scam, never imagining that the company would close up shop and scam everyone that had put money down when we did. It seemed so normal to sign over the insurance check for them to buy the supplies. They had an A on the BBB site when we selected them, and now have an F. They had no reviews on Angie's list and we took the lack of review as a non-issue, but should have thought twice!

What can a victim do if not reading this article until after they have lost the money? We are filing complaints to the BBB, Consumer Affairs, and the Contractor's Home Improvement Board, but surely there is more we can do. There is now an article on the BBB site warning of this company due to the high number of complaints, would the large number of affected individuals affected mean that there are other options available?

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I second the original question (still unanswered). Speaking as someone who logged in today to try to find an attorney, I see this category as one that's exactly what I have my Angie's List membership for:

1. It's important that I find a good one
2. I'm not an expert enough to know myself who is a good one
3. The industry is full of advertisements and misinformation
4. I wish I knew what experiences other people have had


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I don't care about lawns--I planted mine in clover and don't have to mow it. When I do need to mow I use a rotary Fiskars mower, which is great--or a scythe. That's right--a scythe (the European type, which is smaller, and it's very good exercise). Gas-powered mowers, chemical fertilizers and weed killers--all nasty stuff that gets into everyone's air, soil, and water. I'm sure my neighbor doesn't like my wildflowers, semi-wild pockets of fruit bushes, and unmown areas and yes, dandelions (I have 10 acres) but that's too bad. It's better habitat for wildlife, especially the pollinators on which our food supply depends. I think this obsession with the Great American Lawn is a waste of time and resources. Plant some food instead.


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I'm not sure Angie et. al. want you to have a complete answer to this question. By re-subscribing at the Indiana State Fair in 2012, I think I paid $20.00 per year for a multi- year subscription. Maybe even less. At the other extreme--and I hope my memory isn't faulty about this--I think the price, for my area, for ONE year was an outrageous $70.00. And they debited me automatically without warning. I had to opt out of that automatic charge. I like Angie's List, but if some of the companies they monitor behaved the way they do in this respect, they'd be on some sort of Pages of Unhappiness. I'll be interested to see if this comment gets published or censored out of existence.
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That's very difficult to answer without seeing the house. As one poster said, the prep is the most important part. On newer homes that don't have a lot of peeling paint, the prep can be very minimal even as low as a couple or a few hundred dollars for the prep labor.

On a 100 year old home with 12 coats of peeling paint on it, then the prep costs can be very high and can easily exceed 50% of the job's labor cost.

A 2100 sq ft two story home could easily cost $1000 just for the labor to prep for the paint job. That number could climb too. Throw in lots of caullking  or window glazing, and you could be talking a couple or a few hundred dollars more for labor.

Painting that home with one coat of paint and a different color on the trim could run roughly $1000 or more just for labor. Add a second coat  and that could cost close to another $1000 for labor.

For paint, you may need 20 gallons of paint. You can pay from $30-$70 for a gallon of good quality exterior paint. The manufacturer of the paint should be specified in any painting contract. Otherwise, the contractor could bid at a Sherwin-Williams $60 per gallon paint and then paint the house with $35 Valspar and pocket the difference. $25 dollars per gallon times 20 gallons? That's a pretty penny too.

That was the long answer to your question. The short answer is $2000 to $4000 and up, depending upon the amount of prep, the number of coats, the amount of trim, and the paint used.