Pros and Cons of Walk-in Tubs

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Havaneiss Dei

Subject: Best Plan

In all new construction: vaporproof a room below the high-water line, waterproof it to the ceiling, use individually-controllable shower heads and/or wands. With adequate ventilation, a sprayed-on PU material (like a pickup truck bedliner) is a cost-efficient solution.

Put seats around the perimeter, use an 8-ft door opening (yeah, that's huge, until you try moving a hospital bed or a litter through it -- and the FD will be very grateful for the extra clearance if they ever are called upon to rescue someone from in there).

Use boating seat cushions to reduce the chance of injury from a fall (not all falls result from a slip, and some falls are fatal -- or worse).

A perimeter drain looks less "institutional" and may be more reliable, at the expense of higher capital and maintenance cost.

To facilitate rescues and to minimize caretaker inconvenience, the unobstructed floor of the wet space should be not less than 12x12 feet, or 16ft diameter.

All the foregoing is compatible with steam-room tech. Still need an immersive bath? Make sure a crane is handy and the tub-user wears a rescue lifting harness at all times he or she is in the tub; ditto for steamroom spaces.

Jason Overton

Subject: Purchasing a walk in Tub Experience

After researching extensively for a walk-in tub we ended up Purchasing a TheraTub a company based in Florida that sells an American made tub.When I purchase anything over a couple of hundred dollars, I really do my homework. I had been thinking about a walk-in bathtub for a year or so but just didn't want to pay $15k Safe Step and Jacuzzi quoted. So I decided to go online and research, I ran across TheraTub and everything I found was very positive. They gave me some references and I was overwhelmed by what they had to say, they were all very satisfied. Another fabulous thing is that they offered 18 months no interest financing. To us it was a no brainer to buy a TheraTub. We couldn't be happier. The two inch step in is great.

Fred Martin

Subject: Walk in tub

Would like to know what price this tub was.We are building a new home soon and need to consider cost and features, Thank You.

Nancy Evins

Subject: lifts

I had never heard of a lift for a bathtub. Where does one find them?

I am 80 years old and have an expensive tub with jets that blow the air out when the "bubble" part is done. I quit using that part because it would go on and off all night sometimes. I have scoliosis and would enjoy immerging in a hot bath. My problem is that I am too weak to stand up after the bath. Would a lift solve this problem?

I would appreciate any information anyone out there has and my email is included.

James Zuber

Subject: Bath Lifts

The molly bather bath lift is just one of several devices out there to consider. or if you're resigned to just taking showers, you might consider a tub cut


Subject: Cleaning

How easy are walk-in tubs to clean? I find regular Jacuzzi tubs with certain type of jet holes difficult to properly clean.


Subject: Cleaning walk in tubs and jets

White vinegar and water solution is suggested by many manufacturers as well as an ozone installation to keep the piping clean as most jetted tubs can have a distinct problem with standing used bath water in jet piping.
(See Ella;s Bubbles)


Subject: walk-in-tubs

As I read all of the comments, so far I have come across step-in tubs or shower/tubs that have address almost everything (except someone using it that has cognitive problems and needs to be monitored for such necessities of living. They are currently advertising heated seats while the tub fills. These are not meant for every person that wants one. For you tub complainers, to each their own; and what do you think the towel does when you dry off. Manufacturers continue to make their product better to deal with complaints and suggestions.It is only logical because then they sell more product. There are so many models out there from a plain sitting position walk-in tub to the ones with the heated seats and different jet options. Do diligence research needs to be done to see if there is one that fits the bathers needs; and yes there are a lot of us that get therapeutic benefits from relaxing and the benefits to our being tired or having one or more of the health problems that affect our mobility. I'm shopping for one and when the one that is right for me then I will buy. Also when something is one of the latest inventions the prices are higher so waiting a while during the shopping period may help my pocketbook. For example, look how the prices for flat-screen televisions have become more affordable as they continue improving and enlarging the newest ones. Hope this helps some of you.


Subject: Walk-no tub...

Hi there Kim, Thank you for carving time out of your schedule to post a comment.
All to often I find myself logging way too many hours researching an item just to avoid problems in general and/or poor decision-making on my part (contributed to what I call "bad-juju"). Resulting in years of rotten-luck that I just can't shake (sad but true). Yes, I am very much scar'd and scared if that makes sense, as I'm now at a time in life where I can no longer afford major $$$ mishaps.
Without taking too much time, brief synopsis as to why I NEED a reliable hassle-free wi-tub BUT not intended to come-off as" woe-is-me".
Over the past decade+ I've gone from avg life in health & wealth (w/dash of that unfortunate juju!) to a Mayo Clinic medical mystery, enduring a host of unusual & unlucky set of circumstances including pancreatic cancer. Tho surviving, my QOL is nill, leaving me (mentally & physically) broken & bedbound in my 40's. Admittedly, thot of an accessible safe TUBBY, makes me SMILE!
Aftr much research, I deem walkin-tub a necessity. I've save for ALL the goodies (~$9k?!).
I've ended w/Safe Step. B4 I go thru hosting Sales Reps, pls offer ur opinions on Safe Stephen & wat u decided is quality & Made In USA. *major worry Iv found lil info, other than factory warranty. Any other add'l safegaurds to purchase knowing if a mishap is'l find me.
THK-YOU & Kind Regards.


Subject: Home came with one

Leased to buy a older home that came with one in the hall bath..
Coming off of acheillies surgery this help with every thing but..,
Draining is a 45 min chore. Filling and hot water standard xl tub time and can bath and clean before tub fills for jets and bubbles. But normally I start draining it about 3/4 full. Now that I have healed fully I just climb over it.. Plumber says yes the drain they installed is a wide mouth drain.. But they tapped into the slab and main line And it Just bottle necks So not much I can do. I use the shower feature seldom as we have a walk in shower.. But this is the only tub. It doesn't add much to property listing.. As again this is the only tub in the home. It is nice.. But installed subpar and needs to be finished for mold prevention. Cleaning ain't to bad.. But I am 40 and can move some what.. But yes a heater near the tub area will help .
But a remodel was recommend to flip house for quick sale..


Subject: walk-in tubs

I am remodeling bathroom. My family keeps talking about a walk-in tub, but I am planning to remove tub and do a walk-in shower. Reading all these comments about tubs has only strengthened my resolve to do a shower Sitting in any tub just makes me think of sitting in dirty water.
I must comment on something else. There are so many misspellings and grammatical errors it blows my mind.
There is spell check and also grammar checks probably in every computer software that this should not happen. It's not just here but in every piece of mail I see, including from lawyers


Subject: Chill

Sounds like you need a relaxing soak in a lovely walk in tub. You can rinse in bleach before you dip, if your own flora and fawna bothers you like bad spelling. Oh, and you left out a period and a little study in sentence structure wouldn't hurt you either.

Renay M. Lankford

Subject: I Agree!

Thank you Edie! I thought it was my OCD that noticed all the mistakes. In addition to the "to/too" errors, the ones that are just using the shortcuts instead of spelling out the words drive me crazy! This is just my opinion and I know that I don't have to read them so I'm not saying this to offend anyone and those of you who are offended do not have to jump on me informing me of this.
As for the walk-in tubs, I am researching them for my mother. She is 86, lives alone and thinks that if she moves up here with me she will be giving up her independence. I am trying to make her home safer and comparing walk-in tubs with the showers as she does like a good soak every now and then. Her concern is the tub leaking and after reading the comments here, my concern is the filling and draining.


Subject: Shower vs Walkin Tub

When they first started to advertise these tubs on TV, my first question was, Do I have to sit there getting chilled while waiting for it to fill? And then in the reverse as the warm water drains?

So I went with a walk-in shower. I had a bought a stool big enough. And the hose is on a slide bar that I can adjust to my height. I turn the water on and adjust it to my liking. And then shut it off when I am done. Since the heat of the water can often make my breathing difficult while I am washing my hair or some other activity sitting on the stool solved that problem. I stay warm and still get to sit while bathing. Sure I would love to be able to take a long luxurious bath. But at 77 years of age, my health and safety comes first.

One more thing, My son installed safety bars outside the shower for me to grab when I step out. And there are safety bars on each wall of the shower. Right at the height of when I am sitting and standing.


Subject: How much water does it take to fill a Walk-in Tub?

I just was researching the Walk-In tubs myself and noted in one add, they hold 72-75 Gal.! I am going to doulbe check this.
Hot water tank must have the capacity big enough to keep hot water coming.
Electrical must be @ least 110


Subject: How much water does the tub hold

measure the approximate width, length, and average depth of the main tub are. Then measure the sitting area. Cover units to feet. Both areas will then be the approximate in cubic feet. Multiply the cubic feet to gallons by multiplying by 7.48 gallons per cubic feet. Add the number gallons and you will have an estimate of the amount of water the tub will hold.

Gary Hess

Subject: Walk in tub water capacity

Maybe you have found out this info already since I see that your question is 2 1/2 months old but, here goes anyway. I plan on installing a walk in tub soon. The one I picked has outside dimensions of 30" x 54". The average inside dimensions are 22" wide by 42" long. The seat area is approx. 22"W x 18"L. The stand up area is approx. 22"W x 24"L. When the tub is filled up to the overflow drain my rough calculation is around 90 gal. of water. Approx. water weight is 750 lbs..Add in tub + person, I assume. Hows your floor?


Subject: Jacuzzi walk in tub

Worst purchase ever. My mother in law is a stroke patient with leg pains. She was convinced this would help tremendously. She had a consult and was hounded with calls. She signed by herself and spent $14,700 on a tub she does not feel safe in. She lives alone. Feels as if she is going to slip and fall into the water. Has little muscle strength to use the bars to lift up. They did not remodel a thing. Took a tub out and put one in. I was told they would give me a slip grip sticky and they agreed they are super expensive but can not do anything for buyers remorse. Too bad so sad. She could not afford this to begin with. Was desperate to feel better and was taken for a ride.

Joe Welsch

Subject: Tub

How was she taken for a ride?
I don't get it ?
People have 3 days to cancel.
She bought a product that does what it states, installed it to the letter of the agreement.
Why don't you move her into your house , take away her right to make a purchase without your approval .
This type of product helps a lot of older people and then someone like you doesn't like that a person made a choice

Margaret Szilagyi

Subject: Can Temperature be raised inwater heater

When I had my water heater replaced a few years ago, I was told that the temperature was lower so that seniors would not be burned.
Does this mean that the temperature could be controlled? I use all the water from my tank without needing to add any cold water, so that by the time I have enough water for the jets to work, it is no longer warm.


Subject: Adjusting you water heater temp

Yes, you absolutely can turn up the temperature on your water heater so that you have more hot water to enjoy while using your jets. There is a simple knob or dial (sometimes red or white in color) at the bottom of your hot water tank that you turn to increase or decrease your hot water.


Subject: Different Option to a Walk in Tub

Also check out the Kohler Elevance tub which addresses some issues expressed for walk in tubs. No swinging door. No thresh hold to step over. Bather is positioned as in a regular tub, seated with legs extended out to the front giving full side access if assisting the bather. The Elevance tub is also comfortable for anyone who enjoys a tub bath.

What moves? The side wall of the tub. Kohler lists it as ADA compliant. See the video on YouTube.

In case you wonder, I design bathrooms for Aging in Place and am not connected to any manufacturer or vendor.

barbara evans

Subject: walk in tub alt

Thanks for an alternative to a walk in tub with a door !!
iam buying my first home and it needs to be modified for my
needs .


Subject: Huge Relief For Those It Is Intended For

Folks, read the list of ailments these tubs are intended for and don't waste yours or my time with your critiques if you are not the target audience. My mother has been recently diagnosed with acute sciatica and arthritis from her lower back down to her foot. It gives her tremendous relief and helps her sleep to have a good soak with the jets on. A nice soft towel wrapped around the shoulders as the tub fills is perfect...especially if you have a towel warmer. The same cozy towel is then reapplied as the water recedes. I'm thinking some of you might consider installing a heating lamp over the tub if you have such a chilly bathroom. By the way, Costco sells an excellent American Standard Walk In Tub with all the bells and whistles at a reasonable price.
Some of you might also consider a Japanese soaker tub with a built in seat and large platform if sitting and swinging your legs over the top is not a problem. That way you can prefill it before getting in. These tubs are not for everyone but everything to some. do your homework and know whatmyoumare getting into money wise.


Subject: well...

maybe don't put the lamp *over* the tub.
otherwise, some good suggestions, thanks.

Paul Taylor

Subject: Wash after a bath?

What do you do with all the scum and dirt floating on top of the water as it empties and gradually deposits itself back on your body...take a shower I guess.

Ann D.

Subject: Soap scum in jacuzzi while waiting for water to drain

I hate my new tub; after bath, while water drains, soap scum is everywhere. You cannot open the door to get out. How does one bathe w/out soap? Not only is your body dirty in the end, it takes time and energy to clean the darn thing. The folk who love bathing in these tubs must love being dirty, too! I wish I had gotten the shower.


Subject: Good Point!

Definitely hadn't thought about that. Kind of makes the shower only idea more appealing.


Subject: Are You Kidding Me?

This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen! Sit naked in the tub and wait for it to fill. Don't forget to take your pneumonia pills. "Fast fill" claims? Ha! Your plumbing system can only deliver so much water pressure, and volume, so you're going to sit there a shivers your timbers pretty much like you would if you sat in a regular tub that's empty. Hmmm, how long does it take to fill your bathtub you ask... Way too long is the answer.

Ok, so you lived through the fill process and now all's well. But get ready, because it's going to get lots worse! Getting out. Now you're all wet and you start draining the walk-in tub. You find you need to wrap yourself in towels because you're lips are turning blue, and you can't get that door open unless the water is all gone! When they say "fast drain" are we talking under 20 seconds? No? Then you're going to suffer.

The best part, not for you, is they cost a zillion some dollars, so they are highly recommended by all those in the industry.

Christopher Lawings

Subject: Just the cost to use it will kill you

Unless you're a rich old person YOU wouldn't be able to afford the water, much less the power bill to heat it. The price that most old people make on a fix income would only be able to use a wash cloth and a bucket.

V K Cobb

Subject: Filling of tub and draining of tub

If you have a quality tub that fills too slowly the problem usually is caused by an adequate water line from the meter to the house. If the water line is too small it does not create enough pressure to force the water through the lines. This same problem occurs in showers. It's usually not the tub or shower that is to blame. It's inadequate plumbing lines to the house. It could also be the reason the tub doesn't drain properly. Many of these tubs are also equipped with self cleaning operations which might not work as well if water pressure is insufficient. Hope this helps.


Subject: Walk-In Tubs for disabled are wonderful.

In response to the person saying this is a dumb idea: I take care of a disabled woman who is wheelchair bound. She hasn't had a "bath" in years, since she had a stroke over 25 years ago. These are not designed for people who can get around, nor people who don't love baths. It may be a dumb idea for YOU, but it's a great idea for people who WANT to soak, but have no other way. Also, I worked for a short time in a high-end assisted living facility and used these. The old folks LOVED taking their bath and they do drain and fill up really fast. If it's not for you, or someone you care about, why even comment?


Subject: Haters be hating new technology

Who do you work for Chris? You sound a lot like you might have a vested interest in putting down this new technology. Don't waste your breath: you can stop the sale of a great idea. I want one of these!


Subject: Is there a type of tub with a seat in it?


I'm only 56, and I had my hip replaced a few years ago, and since then I really miss being able to take a bath. This because after the fact, my Doctor said I had to be careful so as to not dislocate the hip by sitting all the way down in a bathtub.

My problem isn't climbing over the side of the tub, but rather sitting down in a normal tub, then getting up from a normal tub from the sitting position.

Right now, I live in an apartment complex, but I'm currently house shopping.

Is there a type of a tub I could get, with higher sides, that has a seat in it, but would take up the same space as a normal tub?



Subject: Walk-in tub after hip surgery or just because we're older

If the problem is getting into and out-of a conventional bathtub (like most of us as we get "wiser" in age), just buy a bathtub LIFT for less than $600.00. You just step into the bathtub and sit down, lower yourself with the remote control and then lift back up at the completion of your bath. Just be sure there are other safety articles in place, like grab bars and mats or the like to prevent slipping, etc. Amazon and medical supply sites sell these and they are great! I use one and my 92-year-old father uses one. He weighs about 185 pounds. You can save thousands of dollars and you don't need special plumbing or water heaters.


Subject: Is there a walk-in tub that has a double-door system?

The "sit there in the cold while the tub fills" and "sit there in the tub while the tub empties" part of a walk-in tub is a deal-killer for me. Is there a tub with a double-door system (think a river's locks system or a submarine door) where there is a smaller space that drains separately for you to wait in while exiting? I'm thinking of something that would look like a sidecar. I realize this will take much more space, but would also be more comfortable than waiting for the tub to completely fill and empty while you're sitting there freezing. Here's how I picture it working: 1. Fill the main tub. 2. Step or slide into side compartment's seat. 3. Open the door to the large compartment, which fills the small compartment and allows you to get to the tub part, which is already filled with water. This would have to be an inward-opening door to the large compartment. 4. When ready to exit, move back to the small compartment. 5. Close the door between the compartments. 6. Drain just the small compartment (shouldn't take long). 7. Exit the small compartment, leaving the large compartment to take its time draining. So, is there a product like this on the market?

Robert Middleswarth

Subject: Draining is not the concern at least with mine. Filling is.

Mine has 2 drains and they are both wider then a typical drain in a standard tub. It drains extremely fast. Filling up is another story that is all about your water pressure and you water heater. We have decent pressure so it fill pretty fast I would guess about twice as fast as the other tubs in our house but since the tub is like twice the size it takes about the same as a normal bath. However we have really good pressure on our lines if your pressure is weak in your home it is going to take a long time for that tub to fill.

james zuber`

Subject: Walk-in Tub Double Door Alternative

Unless you're hoping for someone to design you a deep walk in tub with jets, there's an insert with an door that can be installed on your present tub. It reduces the step-in by 8" and allows easy access for both showering & bathing. It's ideal for multi-generational families. The senior can swing the door open to get to the shower while the more agile person can fill the tub and step over to get in and out. The product is from CleanCutBath and installations start at around $1500.

Alicia Murphy

Subject: liberation sit down tub

My mother just recently had a sit down bath tub installed in one of her bathrooms. immediately after the installation I smell a strong odor I assume its coming from the silicon seal that they used. the first week I didn't do anything I thought maybe it would go away but it is been almost a month now and it still has A bad bad odor. in addition to that there was two other thing that I noticed one when they tested the bathtub they either tested it with nobody in the bathtub or somebody with very little weigh. once you fill the tub up to the point where all the Jets can work properly and I get inside of it now I weigh 200 almost 300 pounds and you turn on the Jets the water splashes out of the bath tub and onto the floor in addition to that the bathtub has a light ticking noise when its not being used I called the company 2 times and informed them of the dissatisfaction of the bath tub they said that they would have the Installation Manager call but nobody's ever called I looked over the paperwork that we received and they don't have any information on the warranty after its installed I went on the internet and looked for the warranty there's no such thing that bathtub cost my mother of twelve thousand dollars that's a rip off what do we do


Subject: splashing water

The smell most likely may be from a missing p trap. I am not familiar with liberation tubs but jacuzzi tubs have fully adjustable jets. They have a ring around the outside of the jet that turns to adjust flow.


Subject: Walk-In Tubs

I'm thinking of investing in this, but my concern is electricity-I don't have an outlet in that part of the bathroom-should I just scrap this idea?


Subject: electricity

Not a problem. The installation generally includes an electrician coming and running the required lines. No worries

Luke Thomas

Subject: walk in tubs NOT safe

Walk-in bathtubs are dangerous too, especially if the elderly has memory problems and will forget to open the tub, but attempt to step OVER it. Most elderly people don't like them and prefer a step in shower, and using a shower chair. It's a lot cheaper and a lot safer. Side rails are a must even for step in showers.


Subject: Safety of walkin tub

I agree with this comment. I am an Occupational therapist and actuality had a patient who injured them self while using a walk-in tub. What these high priced company's forget to tell is that there is a 3 to 4 inch threshold that a person has to clear in order to enter safely which totally defeats the purpose. If a person really wants to increase safety they need a barrier free shower with no threshold to trip on.


Subject: reduces fall even if you DON'T have mobility issues

let s face it,regular bathtubs are slippery when they are wet, the side wall of the tub is fairly high,I am 46 years young in perfect physical condition and find a regular bathtub a risk for injuries for anyone. so walk in tubs are really for anybody


Subject: Salesmen

In this thread there are so many salespeople it's ridiculous. I've had to fight with my grandmother to convince her that a walk-in tub will not satisfy the needs of her disabled daughter, who cannot stand on her own without the aid of a personal care attendant. She's also unable to bend in certain directions, which the narrow door on the tub would not accommodate.

Walk-in tubs are simply NOT designed for disabled people. Arthritis-ridden seniors? Maybe. But I'm tired of seeing these billed - by salespeople and marketing people - as the end-all and be-all of personal homecare bathing solutions for the disabled.


Subject: options

There are brands with doors that open out. Jacuzzi has a Grand tub and a Finestra that are larger and the dooropens all the way in. They do take more water but come with larger faucets to reduce some of the fill time. There is a 6 inch step to get over to get into the tub but it might help.


Subject: can it be used also as a sit down shower

i have a handicapped daughter. She weighs more than I do and getting her in and out of a standard tub is difficult. She can't sit down, because it is too difficult for her to get up, Could she sit in the tun and I give her a shower with the hand held shower? I don't think she would be patient enough to let the tub fill?
I know I would enjoy the tub myself.

Viv Carlaon

Subject: Walk-in tub not accessible for disabled person?!?

My mother-in-law had a walk-in tub installed a few years ago, and was enjoying using it. However, she now cannot walk/stand. Her caregivers have tried many ways, but have not found a way to safely transfer her from her wheelchair to the tub. You may want to consider a slide-in tub instead..

Paul Clark

Subject: replacing jacuzzi tub

Replacing your jacuzzi tub does make it a little easier when it comes to running electrical for your new walk-in tub. Depending on what hydrotherpy system you choose there may not be a need to run new or additional electrical therefore saving you some money and making the install a little easier and cheaper.








Subject: Hot Water Heater

Thinking of buying walk in tub. Questions: 1) what is the minimum size of home hot water heater tank to support the required amount of hot water to properly fill the tub? 2) What is the minimum required size of the plumbing lines for proper support? Thanks. Dora


Subject: Hope this helps.

The size of the walk in tub as well as how hot you like your bath will both play a roll in what size water heater is needed. Tubs can use anything from 50 to 80 gallons of water depending on the size of the tub and the size of the person using the tub. We usually recommend at least a 50 gallon water heater minimum but even larger is recommended for the larger tubs. Whole house tankless water heaters are a good option if you are limited on space but they are more money.

Most high flow water faucets used in these tubs will be 3/4" so anything smaller than that will restrict water flow some.

Hope this helps.

Kelly Fisher

Subject: No it is not impossible to

No it is not impossible to have the seals replaced. The door is usually held on with 10 to 12 tiny screws and the door can be taken off and the seal should be able to be replaced by your manufacturer


Subject: Walkin bathtubs

Info for the uninformed
My boss is a very busy man and asked me to research what all is involved and where the best deal ls. He wants it to be heated and not lose any of his hot water like he has now. It is for a senior that is moving into his home so it has to be as easy to access as possible. I know he will need an additional hot water heater or at least assume he will but I need help with this research, Thanks for any assistance you can give


Subject: Walk in tub

I love my walk in tub. I find baths very relaxing, and with the jets, it is great for my muscle pain and arthritis and helps me sleep. Although it is wonderful therapy, it was very expensive and I will be paying for it for a couple of years! We did invest in a tankless water heater, which by itself was $4000, which I almost like better than the tub! We have instant hot water that STAYS hot so it makes my bath even better. The whole package was truly a huge investment but one I feel has been worthwhile but I realize it is not for everyone. The tankless water heater alone would be worth it, with or without a walk in tub.


Subject: Not everyone wants to just sit in a tub!

I have been wanting a hot tub ever since I tried out the one my Father purchased 2 years ago. Since we don't have a fenced in yard, a hot tub is impractical. Whenever I sit in a hot tub I sleep so much better and use less medication. Since our area has oppressive heat and humidity, an inside walk-in tub fits the bill. This way I can use it year round! I hope to be able to afford one with jets for my back and feet. I have fibromyalgia and the jets help very much. Our hot water heater is a commercial 80 gallon, so I hope that's big enough. Will definitely get the roman filler. If its too chilly while the tub fills, I'll have a remote controlled heat lamp put in. Did I miss anything? Wish me luck!!

Sandra stevens

Subject: Walkin tub

I considered buying a walkin tub but after talking to friends who had them I was told that I would have to get a larger water heater and that I would be cold while waiting for it to fill and drain. With all things considered i changed my mind.


Subject: Not just for elderly or infirmed

These tubs are great for anyone that would like to bathe in a seated position. Can be used like a shower or tub. I only have a 40gal water heater and have been able to fill the tub up to my chest before the water starts losing its heat. Don't try using a regular faucet for these, you need a roman tub filler to get the water in quick.

Marty Hallgren

Subject: walk in alternative

We installed a zero entry tiled sloped shower for our parents. Answered every problem: easy access, wheelchair accessible, plenty of room, standard install, nothing special to buy/maintain, same water heater size, handheld shower head, curved shower curtain rod (more elbow room!), room for caregiver in unit and easily marketed in real estate sale. Forget that walk-in thing...go with "roll in"!

Paul Clark

Subject: zero entry shower vs. walk-in tub

In some cases I will agree that a zero entry shower can be a good answer in place of a walk-in tub but what you get from a walk-in tub that you cannot get from a zero entry shower or any shower is the hydro-therapy and therapeutic benefit that you get from being in a walk-in bathtub. For those suffering from moderate to sever arthritis, soaking in a full tub with water therapy can be a great source of pain relief.


Subject: not elderly but think it's a great thing

I am nowhere near elderly - 48 - but medical problems make it impossible for me to use the bathtub my grandparents installed in my house in the 1960s. It is way too narrow and short for me, my Nana and Grandpap were smaller than I am! Plus, they never installed a shower, I guess they were not popular in 1966 when the bathroom was installed. I have seen the commercials for these tubs, and I think they are a great idea for anyone who has physical limitations, such as arthritis, even bad backs can make it hard to get in and out of the tub. If I can't afford to get a shower put in, I am going to consider one of these tubs. And thanks for the added confidence in them, Eric.

Diana R. Lewis

Subject: water heater

In my case I basically can't use the tub because my water heater is not
sufficient enough to produce enough hot water. Now told I need a waterless one to resolve the problem, and cost is about another $3000. The dealer was well aware before installation but until I complained they finally stated they
were afraid that might be a problem. The water flow is slow so again the
tub will not fill correctly. In my case I basically lost my money unless I buy a tankless heater. Total cost around $13,000. People need to be aware of
the needed heater and how long it takes to fill the tub.


Subject: Alternative to Walk-in-Tubs

If you have the room and really want a bath, consider a tiled tub with steps - kind of like a small pool. Someone who has difficulties can walk down the steps and sit on the steps. Get out by bumping up the steps if it is difficult to stand up. Use hand rails to aid. If you need it to be raised, consider the height so you can sit on the edge and swing your legs around and stand up directly. The water costs would be about the same but you don't have to sit in while waiting for the fill up and drain.


Subject: Walk in tub

The alternative you mentioned (tiled tub with steps) sounds like a good idea,could you suggest where I can go on the internet to find more info about this type of tub?


Subject: Alternative to Walk-in-Tubs

If you have the room and really want a bath, consider a tiled tub with steps - kind of like a small pool. Someone who has difficulties can walk down the steps and sit on the steps. Get out by bumping up the steps if it is difficult to stand up. Use hand rails to aid. If you need it to be raised, consider the height so you can sit on the edge and swing your legs around and stand up directly. The water costs would be about the same but you don't have to sit in while waiting for the fill up and drain.

Perry. P.

Subject: Tiled Tub with Steps

From Experience, I can tell you it is a nightmare to keep the step down tub clean due to having to get down in the space and clean the floor, sides, and steps. Then, you still having to raise yourself up off the steps to stand up.
Better Choice: An outward or inward opening door.
It's easier to open a door with a leak proof guarantee, sit down and bathe.

Michael Lawson

Subject: Walk in tubs


Listen to Eric; this is a myth - not a fact. Our company installs dozens of these a year and there is no such problem. Proper operation and maintenance and these tubs are trouble free! Yes, a larger volume of hot water is beneficial and yes, 3/4-1" plumbing is preferred, but it is well worth it for those who need it.

Being educated is better than being "informed"- particularly by those who are simply passing along myth, rumor and scuttlebutt...

Debra Ball

Subject: walk in tubs nice for arthritis

Walk in showers are great and probably easier to use for older people, but nothing beats a warm bath for arthritis. I am considering one of these tubs for my next home because of arthritis; but I will pay attention to the leak/liner issue mentioned above.


Subject: walk-in bathtubs can leak

Be very careful of the water rubber liners on the inside of the walk-in bathtub doors. I have had several contractors say that leaking is a big problem with these kinds of bathtubs and the rubber linings are the first to be replaced - a lot! We were considering this for my MIL when her main bathroom was remodeled, who has problems getting in and out of traditional tubs, and finally opted instead for a walk-in shower with sliding glass door. We put in a wide plastic stable shower chair in it, so she can sit down while taking a shower. She loves it.

Paul Clark

Subject: Walk in tub door seals

Having installed over 250 of the walk-in bathtubs I have never changed a door seal. If properly used and cared for the seals will last for many many years. Some things to remember is to leave the door in the open position when not being used since this will allow the seal to relax and therefore seal better. It is also important to clean the seal regularly simply by wiping down and around the seal. Loose dirt or foreign material can cause the door to let a few drops of water out but this is an easy fix by just cleaning the seal. People who knock the walk in tub are usually the uneducated and uninformed when it comes to these types of bathtubs or there are those that got "sold" a tub that is inferior and not of good quality but that does not make the whole industry and all walk-in bathtubs a bad thing.

Eric Schrader

Subject: Misinformed about walk in tubs

You must be talking to biased contractors because I install walk in tubs as part of my home modification business and I have never had a walk in tub door leak. Just like any other product, you get what you pay for. The seal on most doors have a "memory" that must be maintained by leaving the door open when not in use. The design of the hinge has a lot to do with whether there is going to be an issue with the door. Cheap "piano" style hinges are not going to last over the long term use of the tub. Your reference to "water rubber liners" clearly demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about. Get educated before indicting a whole industry.

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This part of Don's answer follows my thoughts exactly: 

"You want to deal with a professional person that is selling you a bath that was not working as a cashier a few months ago."


Do you go to the gracery store and ask for someone to cook your steak?  Of course not.  So why would you go to a building supply store and ask for someone to remodel your bathroom?  Rarely will you see a legitimate contractor take jobs from a retailer.  Why?  Because they don't pay much.  Speed is the most important thing to them, along with getting it done cheap so they can maximize profit.  About 10 years ago I worked on a few contracted structures (sheds, garages, etc.) from Home Depot.  They contracted to another company who then contracted people to build them.  At that time they paid a flat $250 for a contractor to pick up the supplies, build the structure on site, paint it, and use their own tools.  By the time the cost of a helper, fuel, tools, etc. was factored in there was nothing left for the contractor.  Anyway, the point I'm making is that the guy who will eventually show up to do the work will be so far down the line that everyone else has already taken the profits (Home Depot, ReBath, possibly someone else, and finally the guy working) that he probably isn't going to care what kind of job he does for you, quality or not.  He likely won't have much experience due to a high turnover rate and any experience he does have will probably be limited to his teachings at that job.  He probably can't answer any building code questions or identify other hazards once things are taken apart and he certainly won't do anything he doesn't have to while it is apart. 


Another problem I've heard of repeatedly is that if (when) there is a problem there is always someone else you need to speak to.  You might have to talk to 4 or 5 different people before you can even get to someone that can address the problem.  Now multiply that due to having (at least) two separate companies involoved.  "You need to call ReBath."  "No, you need to call Home Depot."


You hire a general contractor for a reason.  We learn, understand, and keep up on building codes.  We are the one point of contact for all questions and issues on a project.  There is no manager in some other store, state, etc. to call.  You contract a GC and deal directly with that GC, or a site supervisor in some cases.  There isn't a huge chain of command to get through to reach the main decision maker for the business.  In a bathroom remodel you need someone who can do the plumbing, repair and/or move any electrical, install tile/flooring, drywall and paint, trim carpentry, and someone to coordinate all of that.  Sometimes you can find a qualified contractor to do all of those things and sometimes he will sub-contract out certain components (especially due to licensing laws) but you will always have that one definitive person to go to for any questions or issues.  A salesman in a store doesn't visit your home throughout the project to check on the status.  Even if he did, he likely wouldn't now what he is looking at.  The same goes for a retail manager.


Hire someone who specializes in taking care of your home.  Hire based on reputation & knowledge/experience.  You are right that not every customer can be happy so an occassional bad review can be found on just about any business.  Read the reviews, not the grades (they are always biased).  Look to see if the contractor attempted to rectify the problem, not ignore it.  Lastly, unless you want cheap, sloppy work and a whole heap of other troubles, don't hire based on a low price.


You gave a good description, but without seeing some photos and maybe even the space itself it would still just be a guess.  


A few years ago we replaced a significant load bearing beam to raise it up a foot in the new kitchen.  It was nearly 17' long with a new LVL beam.  For us this was pretty reasonable.  The LVL was about $250.  And maybe 12-15 2x6s, to temporarily support the ceiling joists, were probably like another $75.  The labor was $800.  There was also some finish work done afterward, but that was worked into a much bigger job for the entire floor. 


Technically speaking, it is likely that you need to have something spec'd out by an engineer or architect, to calculate load, etc.  I don't know your area but in most places "a mere contractor, GC, or carpenter" is probably not allowed to just rip out a load-bearing wall without someone who is qualified to do the load calculations (which will be VERY conservative.  A brand new LVL will be VASTLY stronger than it really needs to be, but it won't be expensive.  The typical contractor will be like "hey we'll sister up two 2x12s", and not really know if that'll do the trick or not.  I'm not saying that all guys are like that, but ... it is what it is. 


What you are talking about is probably at least a bit more involved and I'd love to give a good estimate but it's hard to say without a better understanding of the space. 


You may be looking at $1500 - $3500?  It depends on too many specifics that we just can't know without a bunch of photos, and maybe even opening up a wall or ceiling to see exactly how temporary supports could be installed, and where the permanent beam/header could be placed and properly supported.  Your span isn't all that big so if at all possible I would do it without columns - it'll be much nicer. 


If I were you I would first have a quick consultation with a "professional engineer".  They are qualified to calculate load etc - and cost a lot less than a full architect.  In my experience, an engineer just wants to provide a quick, proper solution without a lot of extra BS.  My experience with architects has been less than favorable.  Too much drama and expense and he actually spec'd things wrong and my carpenter had to pick up on it. 


Sorry I couldn't be of more help.  Good luck!!!

Hair spray is one of those things that is really bothersome.  We've run into this alot unfortunately.  And NOTHING we've found will actually clean it off.  The problem is that if you just paint over it, you still see shiny spots wherever the hairspray was.

Our companie's policy is to prime the area with any bonding primer.  This will seal the hairspray in and not let it affect the next coat of paint.  It would also be a good idea to lightly sand the area first.

Our recommendation for primer would be Zinsser's BIN Spray (red can) and can be bought at most paint stores or home improvement stores.  Other than that, any thing that specifically says "bonding" for a primer should be adequate enough. 
What I always ask my customers regarding this question when remodeling bathrooms is how good they will be about maintaining and cleaning the new bathroom, especially when the old bathroom is obviously neglected.  If you are one of those people who wipes the glass down after a shower and cleans your bathroom every week or two you really don't need to spend the extra money.  If you are at the other end of the spectrum and clean it when it finally bothers you enough it may not be a bad investment.  I've had customer tell me they can tell a difference compared to their old glass without it and others say it made no difference at all.

Todd Shell
Todd's Home Services