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Fran DeLong

Subject: Just Painting 2

What is meant by "disturbed"? If paint is being applied over old paint, is that considered being disturbed?

Paul Pogue
Paul F. P. Pogue

Subject: Good morning! Thanks for

Good morning! Thanks for asking an excellent question. In general, "disturbing" paint is anything that could release particles of the paint into the room -- scraping, sanding, etc. Applying new paint over old paint is not considered to be "disturbing" the paint, so you should be safe.

If the old paint is already chipped or cracking, though, you should consider having a certified professional take a look, and you'll definitely want to take careful steps to clean the room of particles that may have been released from the chipping or cracking.

Thanks, Paul F. P. Pogue

Senior staff writer, Angie's List

Fran DeLong

Subject: Just Painting

Question: What if a room is just going to be painted, with no scraping or sanding involved?

Question 2: What if plaster or spackle is going to be applied to a small crack or chipped area?

Does one need to take all the HEPA steps in these cases?

Paul Pogue
Paul F. P. Pogue

Subject: Painting over is fine if you

Painting over is fine if you're not scraping or sanding. If you're plastering or spackling an area less than six square feet, then lead-safe practices aren't required by the RRP. However, if you've got a cracked or chipped area in a pre-1978 room, you should consider asking a certified professional if the chips or cracks represent a larger problem that should be addressed. 

Thanks for asking!

Paul F. P. Pogue

Senior staff writer, Angie's List

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That's very difficult to answer without seeing the house. As one poster said, the prep is the most important part. On newer homes that don't have a lot of peeling paint, the prep can be very minimal even as low as a couple or a few hundred dollars for the prep labor.

On a 100 year old home with 12 coats of peeling paint on it, then the prep costs can be very high and can easily exceed 50% of the job's labor cost.

A 2100 sq ft two story home could easily cost $1000 just for the labor to prep for the paint job. That number could climb too. Throw in lots of caullking  or window glazing, and you could be talking a couple or a few hundred dollars more for labor.

Painting that home with one coat of paint and a different color on the trim could run roughly $1000 or more just for labor. Add a second coat  and that could cost close to another $1000 for labor.

For paint, you may need 20 gallons of paint. You can pay from $30-$70 for a gallon of good quality exterior paint. The manufacturer of the paint should be specified in any painting contract. Otherwise, the contractor could bid at a Sherwin-Williams $60 per gallon paint and then paint the house with $35 Valspar and pocket the difference. $25 dollars per gallon times 20 gallons? That's a pretty penny too.

That was the long answer to your question. The short answer is $2000 to $4000 and up, depending upon the amount of prep, the number of coats, the amount of trim, and the paint used.