How Much Should You Tip?

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Chris

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What should I tip newspaper delivery guy?

Nancy

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Many places charge $5 or more for valet parking so is it necessary to also give a tip to the person parking the car.

pauli

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Restaurants should post if servers are paid at least the minimal salary. If they are not paid that the server may be tipped depending of their performance. The tip is before tax, not after.
Plumbers, electricians? please Angie's list clarify if physicians, surgeons and lawyers should or not be tipped.

Niche

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The only people who should be tipped are those who make below minimum wage (i.e. Servers), those who volunteer to provide a service, or those who go way above and beyond what their job entails. If we want to start tipping all these other people, how about teachers?! Most get paid less than $30k! That's why you see them working a second job on the weekends and summers.

S Witmer

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I think a group worthy of tipping, especially if you stay more than one night, are the people who clean your room. They typically make at or near minimum wage, and can make a big difference in the quality of your temporary lodging experience. My rule of thumb: at least one dollar for each night I stay, left on the sink with a note onhotel stationery when I check out that just says, "thanks for your service."

DEG

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I am always amazed as little as fitness instructors get paid, as much as it costs them to keep up their certifications they rarely get even a simple gift at the holidays. They keep people fit, motivate, and do it for the passion because it sure isn't for the money. If you love your fitness instructor even a bag of oranges at the holidays would be a nice thing to do with a card saying "THANK YOU FOR A GREAT YEAR OF KEEPING ME FIT". Or better yet... JUST THE CARD would be so appreciative!

Jamal

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My general rule is to only tip waiters/waitresses because they're grossly underpaid. For most other services we're paying through the nose so no tip except for noticeably above & beyond service.

Alfreda

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I have issues with tipping people to do their job. I work everyday (Finance)and I do not get tipped.
Regarding waiters/waitresses, Europe has it right, no tipping. Some restaurants markup too much and keep all of the profit because we subsidize the pay of their staff with tips.

No more tipping.

Amy

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Do you get a bonus? Then there goes your tip!

Shelly

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I used to tip the waitress at my local teriyaki restaurant. I wondered why they had so much turnover of staff, when I went to tip the new girl and she unhappily told me that the owners keep all the tips that are not cash. So if I added the tip to my debit card the owners kept it. I never went back.

al

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Your outlook on tipping is interesting. But unlike your job where you are making more than a waiter/waitress, they are essentially "serving" us. I believe that if you were to take a job in a restaurant just for the weekend and experience the amount of work they endure, the long hours on their feet and the not so pleasant customer comments you might change your mind about giving them tips. I find that most American's that agree with other countries policies on tipping or lack thereof are misers. Unless you are a young student, working as a waitress or waiter is not a dream job. If there are a single mother or someone elderly you can bet that they are having a hard time making ends meet. In the end, it is not how much money you had or possessions you owned, but how you treated people along your way.

Linda Cameron

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I can't believe all the services listed here where we are expected to tip! I tip at restaurants and the hair salon and that is about all. Maybe if I were a multi-millionaire I might tip more but most of these services are plenty high enough already. I assume they charge what the job is worth.

Gabrielle

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This was all pretty standard stuff, but what about when the massage therapist, hairdresser, etc, is either the owner or part owner of the business?
My understanding has been that you don't tip owners. Is that still current?

Bill White

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I don't believe in tipping owners.
I've been going to a woman who cuts my hair for years, and I have always tipped her a solid 20%. About a year ago she and another worker there bought the salon from the owners. At the time she did so I did say to her that I don't believe and tipping owners, and said that I would understand if she wanted to hand me off to someone else in the salon. She said no, she would continue cutting my hair.
I still feel a little awkward not leaving anything when she does my hair. However, I look at it this way. I pay $35 for a haircut. She used to get a $7 tip from me. Now she's getting $17.50 (half-owner). Yes, yes, she has to pay rent, employees, etc., etc. However, virtually all of those expenses are "sunk costs" - i.e., she has to pay that whether I walk in the door or not. When I do come in in costs her a little extra in terms of electricity and water, but that's it. She is easily making $15 off me now, versus the $7 she used to make - and I'm delighted she is!
Anyway, that's my 2 cents on tipping owners.

Peggy Longhofer

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You have got to be kidding..??? Tipping the contractor, the mover? What do you think at Angies List? That the average working person tips everyone on the planet? The hairdresser, manicure...esthetician.. and restaurants...that's more than enough.

al

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I agree, I can not simply afford to tip all the services they mentioned, but I do tip the movers. Where it is money or in the form of lunch, ie pizza. Why? Ever wonder why people lose things in a move? Yes, that is why. You want to believe that everyone is honest, but once that truck departs your residence, there are plenty of opportunities for your items to go missing, or damaged.

Paula Ross

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If your movers has had to navigate steps in a 2-story house, has dismantled & reassembled a bed or other furniture, has moved an extremely heavy piece of furniture, or has gone "above & beyond, I would always tip.

MnGirl

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Tipping seems to have gotten out of hand these days. I do tip restaurant servers, cab drivers, hotel staff, my hair dresser, the kids at the car wash ... those who provide a personal service to me and it took them some effort to provide the service. I've even tipped the men who delivered my kitchen appliances and had to set them in place, plus take away my old ones. And I do tip my mailman, garbage man and newspaper delivery person every year at Christmas because they often go the extra mile. I guess I do tip more than I thought... But, I think its ridiculous to see tip jars placed at drive-thru windows for someone to pour a quick cup of coffee and hand it to me, at a fast food restaurant where I walk in to order and pick up my own food, the dry cleaners, etc. It seems like it's getting more and more the norm to see a tip jar sitting near many registers. I cringe when I see them and often just ignore them. I will not tip just because there's a jar sitting there.

RVal

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Best tip jar sign ever was one that read "Afraid of Change? Then leave it here."
But with that being said. If I don't tip, for instances Starbucks I am always nice because you never want anyone messing with your food.

Theresa Goergen

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You should always tip the Slot Attendant when they pay you out. Usually $20 for small jackpots, other at your discretion. They not only can point you to good machines, they can also make sure you are well taken care of for comps.

al

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Good point about them showing you where the "hot" machines are. Guess I never really had that problem because my bells and whistles rarely go off.

Dale

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My mother was old school but told me that you don't tip the owner , even if he/she styles your jar but always tip the the other stylists and hair washers. Does anyone know if that is still true?

Robin King

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While I understand how wonderful it would be to receive a tip, in my industry (legal) where people always go above and beyond what is expected, tips are never given. This may be old fashioned, but whatever happened to just doing your very best work that you know how because it is the right thing to do? In a restaurant recently, the young waitress actually hovered over the bill, watching as I was writing in the tip and signing it. The bill was just almost $30, and I left a $5 tip. She didn't speak to me when I smiled at her and left the restaurant. I really think we are obsessing over rewarding a lot of hard-earned money for an attitude which should be cultivated in all people: simple human courtesy. Going out for a simple meal, hiring people for work which a home requires, and having to add on more cash, sometimes $30 (I used to make all my tips 20%) is something that people are increasingly going to be unable to afford as this trend continues and gets more expensive. When I work hard at my job, it is because I want to be considered an excellent worker. There will be no tips forthcoming, but that's not why I pursued that job. I believe I should be paid what is fair, and I don't think it is fair to burden people with the expectation of a 15-20% tip surcharge every time we pay for work accomplished as it should be. My suggestion is a flat tip rate of between $2 - $10, period, regardless of the bill total. I understand that many jobs are hard, thankless work. I've had those kind also, but still did them and strived to perform well with no expectation of any tip. Having a job is a privilege, an opportunity to learn, grow in character. Be satisfied with those things, and you'll probably be a happier worker in the end.

Be Spiegelhalder

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I have friends who claim you are not expected to tip the owner of a business, particularly hairdressers who have a shop adjacent to their home. Advice, please?

Jan

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I am a small dairy farmer. I make less than minimum wage! I have never received a tip! I don't even set the price for my product! But the person who brings it to your table gets a dollar or two??? Waiting tables is an entry level job. Pay is supposed to be entry level pay. I am happy to pay my hairdresser more per hour than a waiter, and my doctor even more! I'm tired of all the self pity parties out there. If you feel you're not getting appropriate compensation for your skills and abilities get a better job, prove that your worth more. I tip according to service...if I get the agreed upon service for the agreed upon price no tip! Above and beyond gets a tip based on how above and beyond and if it was actually useful (smile is not), if below agreed upon I complain to superior. Most people work hard, why should certain ones be paid more than they are actually worth? I would like to see a mandatory minimum wage paid to all who work, tipping outlawed, and appreciation expressed with return business. Some of the college aged wait staff around here spend more time courting a tip than getting the order right. If I want a show with my meal I'll go to a dinner theater.

Dick Panozzo

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Be very careful when paying any portion of a contract price in advance. Reputable contractors do NOT require payment until a portion of the work has been completed.. Never pay more than the value of work completed.

Zory Hall

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Should I tip the person that puts together the take-out meal you have called in? 1 reasons sometimes you eat out is so you don't have to pay a tip. Lol.

Misty

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I did a short stent waiting tables for extra Christmas money. At my restaurant, there were certain servers covering take-out orders, who WERE making minimum wage. I asked what they expected for tips, and they said 10%, as appropriate. Personally, I have an issue tipping for take out as my first job was McD's, and they aren't doing anything I didn't do!

Bill Parham

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Just a question. How much do you tip for food take-out ? Please give multiple examples .

Thanks,

Bill Parham

Lucinda Dockins

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Depending on the situation,, ie how long we'll be staying and the location (casino or restaurant or hotel).. we will tip $2 upon arriving and $2-$5 upon leaving depending on the courteousness of the attendant.

Marcia Murphy

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I never know whether to tip the Fed-ex, or UPS guy when they make a delivery. Is this appropriate or not?

Joe

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There are a few low paying jobs that keep the employee dependent on tips to survive. Servers. hair dressers/barbers, hotel room cleaners, doorman/bellhops ( some in Vegas used to make over $50K in tips though).

For workers around the house, and occasional pizza if they work through lunch.

Trash guys get $20 each Xmas and a lottery ticket.

Sit down restaurant servers pushed for 20% max during the recession, and the trick worked, but many people I talk to are back to 15% for exceptional service and is a fair amount.

One other thing I have done for a number of years. Around holiday time I will select one person to get a very large tip or bonus. Something I started when a server was crying and said she was stiffed on a $100 check so I left this amount for her tip. If felt good.

Johnny Hutter

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It may not be realized that many white water rafting guides rely on tips. Some guides work seasonal and are students on the off season or have other professions. Although its a very rewarding job it comes with a lot of unseen training and responsibly. If you enjoy your trip a tip is received with much gratitude! 15- 20 % is about right.

Barbara

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I have moved many times over the course of a corporate career, typically interstate, paid for by my former employer. Carrier changed each time, but never failed that upon unpacking (by me) I had enough damage to run my claims into the thousands. The last interstate move from TX to VA, I had theft in the tens of thousands, but no way to know where it occurred so couldn't even file a police or insurance report. So no, I learned not to tip and unfortunately those who did a fine job were hurt by those who did a not so good (or dishonest) job.

Linda Green

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I tipped $20 for each mover (3) who took away a large truck of stuff because moving the old washer and dryer from the basement was very difficult and heavy and I watched them dig in and get it done. I was so grateful and the basement is so much more usable now. Maybe that was a little more than my family thought appropriate...

Sommer

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No way. Even if the instructor isn't the owner of the place providing the service, they get paid well for their skill. I've taken private (equestrian) lessons for years and never tipped anyone- she's making almost $100/hr off of me!

Chris

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Being a hairstylist for 45 years. Of course you should tip your stylist and shampoo person. The shampoo person is a future stylist and gets paid barely minimum wage while they train. As for your stylist, we don't get paid an hourly wage. We usually work on commission. A percentage of the charge such as 40% goes to the stylist minus the cost of the chemical product used. If a stylist gets a last minute cancellation we get nothing. If we have no one we don't get paid to sit and wait till someone books in with us. That being said we live off of our tips.

TJ

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My question is, can I rely on my stylist to give the person who shampooed me a fair portion of the tip I leave her? I always tip between $5-20 above 20%, never have my purse with me or no pockets or it's just awkward at the sink, and sometimes can't find or don't remember who the shampooer was. The salon doesn't provide names or an itemized receipt, nor tells me who the shampooer was, so I only have the option to leave cash in a little envelope from the reception counter & put my stylist's name on it.

What also complicates things, and why I tip so much over 20%, is that my stylist often helps me by doing more than she has them charge me for. But I'm never really sure how much it SHOULD have costed..

I appreciate any thoughts or suggestions you may have. The last thing I want to do is insult anyone.

John

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Very informative. I did not realize how many people actually did expect a tip!

joanne read

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don't forget those hard working hotel personnel who clean the rooms- housekeeping tips should be left in the room with a note saying " for housekeeping" since you may not have the same person each day.

laura paz

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I think the most important question was missed by this article which is the tipping of the owner of a salon. i was raised that you tip the non-owners because they dont get the full amount of the charge. However you dont tip the salon owner, because this person gets the full amount.

MIDNITE ANGEL 88

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I always feel compelled to tip, even though tipping should absolutely be based on the quality of the job that was performed! Something as small as my local Dunkin Donuts, if there's a tip cup out, I'm placing a few singles into it.

bill

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a lot of people think it is built into the room rate, but it is not
if the driver is polite and tries to help you they do expect some type of tip. it is part of their income for the time they are driving and some are expected to help out and drive the van when they are actually hired to do another job. if they provide good service you should tip them. when I travel I always carry $5 bills to tip hotel van drivers each way.

pamela

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I think the time has come to eliminate all tipping I think it is degrading to be dependent on someones tip Why do we tip some people and not others i.e. shoe salespeople?

Jim

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But you've missed the biggest question: Should you tip in those awkward scenarios where the cashier has left the tip line conspicuously open? Like at the restaurant when you're picking up To Go? Or at the marina when you're paying for your gas? I say ... NO. Tipping is a gratuity paid for service. If we tip the cashier for take out, that puts them on par with the waiter or waitress, who spent some time with us and ensured we had a full glass of water, food ordered and delivered, crumbs swept away from the tablecloth. We wouldn't consider tipping the McDonalds drivethru attendant, so why are we guilted into tipping the cashier at our favorite restaurant when we take out there?

Kay McAllister

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When we travel and stay at nice Hotels and Inns we always tip the worker at the breakfast bar. It's to show our appreciation for a nicely presented meal before we continue on our journey. These people are often left with a terrible mess left by families, especially those with children, who leave everything on the table and trash all over the floors. I'm often embarrassed by what other people do in public. I realize the breakfast is free so a percentage is difficult to figure, but we always leave at least a dollar apiece for the person who has presented us with a satisfying and pleasant repast. Honestly, I've never seen another person do this, even when we try to be obvious about what were doing. The server is always pleasantly surprised. They also remember us when we return to stay again. People seem to have forgotten how to say "thank you".

Liliana Wells

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Do you tip a a garden/lawn worker hired through a local landscape store? This was a neat little article Thanks for your help.

Doug Jensen

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I saw a restaurant waiter reverse tip: he could tell that the couple he was serving was certainly retired on a low income (they split dishes, etc.). When he brought them the bill, he had deducted 25% that he paid out of his own pocket. That empathetic and kind heated gesture ("What would Jesus do?") struck me deeply. Now I watch for people, in restaurants etc.) who clearly are of limited means, and secretly pay part of their bill. Yes, I tip service providers, often generously. I always give money to "panhandlers" even though I hear that some might make more money than I do, even so it is the Christian gesture that counts. Some church-goers tithe, I prefer to help my fellow man in need, instead of helping an often-wealthy religious institution.

Marge

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There is a taxi company in our town. They charge $6 to go anywhere in our town. I use them every day to go back and forth to school, which takes less than 10 minutes. I also use them to take me back and forth to church on Saturdays, which is less than 5 minutes (but too far for me to walk). What would be a "normal" amount for a tip?

Atalanta

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I live in PA and work in NJ. Since it's so much cheaper, I get my gas near work. I will occasionally tip the pump jockey - if the weather is bad (hey, I wouldn't want to be out there) and a nice one at the end of the year (I go to the same gas station every time). In return, the attendant walks around to the driver side (my tank is on the passenger side) to do the transaction.

When we were in CA, we were returning the rental car and tipped the attendant. In return, he showed us the back way to the shuttle to the terminal - saved us from having to lug our luggage down the stairs and around and back up.

Tipping in restaurants and bars is generally 20% unless the service is exceptional (good or bad). There's this bar we go to for trivia once a week. The bartender will help out people sitting at the bar. If we get help and it helps us win, we'll tip up to $10 (our bill rarely passes $40). On the other hand, if we're someplace and we need to set off a flare to get your attention, it might go as low as 5-10% - though when it was really bad we just cancelled our order and left.

I don't usually tip someone I hire to do a home service (contractor, tree care, etc.), or car repairs. Guys I hired to help me move, they got tipped (and they were great!)

Tom Hammond

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I always tip on quality of work done. Which at times could be 10% to 50%.

Janet Ennis

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I don't tip plumbers, electricians, home repair services as their hourly charges are usually very high to begin with. I do leave a small tip at a Dunkin' Donuts for service though or at a gas station where the attendent cleans my front & rear windows (though this is rare; in Jersey we can't pump our own gas).

Russ Croley

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Tipping guides for taxi drivers should also apply t Uber, Lyft, and other "ride share" drivers. There is a huge misconception that the fares for these services "include the tip", which is not correct. As with any other service, tipping is not, of course, "required", but it is certainly appreciated. Not only are the ride share fares set solely by the company, NOT the driver, fares have steadily decreased as competition between transportation network companies (TNC's) has heated up. To make matters even tougher on drivers, the TNC's have reduced the percentage of the fare received by the driver, even as fares have steadily decreased, hitting drivers very hard with a "double whammy".

Remember, 100% of the costs to operate the ride share vehicle, including fuel, maintenance, and depreciation of the vehicle, are borne solely by the driver.

Whether or not you tip your TNC driver, you should always award the driver 5 stars unless there was a a significant issue with the ride. Ride share companies require that drivers maintain an extremely high rating average, typically 4.7 or higher, to remain in good graces. Don't use the same criteria to award stars as you would for a restaurant or hotel, where 4 stars would constitute a high recommendation. A 4 star evaluation for a TNC driver translates as abject failure. Of course, if a driver is rude, the car is not properly cleaned, or obnoxious loud music is blaring during the ride, by all means evaluate the driver as appropriate. But don't penalize the driver for trivial or inconsequential matters, especially those over which the driver has no control, such as delays due to traffic, or higher fares due to surges caused by high demand. You could be costing your driver his livelihood.

Andrew Y

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I'm sticking with the Uber policy of no tipping. It states it explicitly in their information on their site.

Jeff

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My wife and I go to a 4 Star restaurant and I'll get a $30 shot of top Scotch, she'll get a $20 girly drink, appetizers, al la carte dinners and 2 glasses of dinner wine. Good service, great tasting food and a $200 bill. I'm sorry, I'll leave a 10% tip.

I go to the local dinner and get the almost exactly food an drinks with Great service and good tasting food with a total $100; I leave a 20% tip.

They each got $20 from me

Andrew

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Never thought of this before, but you might be on to something. However it bears further discussion. I'm not sure about your comparison between 4star and 1star restaurants [where you tipped less than 15% on the $150 food bill], but at a bar, I don't tip based on the cost of the drink (beer vs. top shelf vs. well). Nor does it make any sense to do so just because it's part of a meal. You could have ordered a $60 scotch at the same level of service--would that deserve twice the tip? [Her girly drinks would warrant more consideration, since they're more labor intensive.] I might have to look at that next time I have a meal somewhere with expensive drinks.

Susan Predis

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There are not to many people who don't want a tip. Cash is always King never tip on a card because it goes further in cash. If someone does not want a tip they will tell you.

Lori

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If the owner of the business, such as a hair salon or dog groomer, performs the services, is it expected to tip them as well? If so, how much?

Erika

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I frequently wonder this. If a person owns their own business (especially if they have no employees, like a masseuse) and sets their own rate, do I need to tip them? I agreed to pay whatever rate they named, so I feel like I shouldn't, but then I always leave wondering if they resent the lack of tip.

DB

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This has gotten way out of hand. You should tip at a retaurant. This has traditionally been most and in some cases all of the person's income. New York gave us taxi cab tipping. As for the rest of it, its ridiculous. If the employee doesn't feel like they can do a professional job without having to receive a tip, either the employer is not paying them appropriately or they should get the skills to get a different job. Its not the customer's responsibility to make up for this nor for the customer to feel guilty for what he or she has versus the employee. If you feel that guilty, then just hand over your bank account and be done with it.

Barbara

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I tip with Mary Kay products. They are really getting a great tip there! Usually lipsticks cost around $15 retail! They women are so appreciative. The men take home a gift, to their wives! Sometimes I give plumbers something their sons would like..like a little toy, that I had hanging around. My kids are grown..and I know those little children love little cars, etc. And if all else fails..I will use money.

TK

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Don't be an illusionist. It's the name of the service industry, and if you don't like it, stay home and make your own food, do your own damn chores, have your husband do all of the handiwork, and groom/grow/clean/fix/sanitize/remedy all of your own problems. It's the nature of the game, and karma is a real bitch.

Peggy

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No, it is not the name of the game. If you think you need a tip and you are not at a restaurant or getting your hair or nails done...you are in a big dream world

Tim

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If can't work without a tip stay home as I do not want to use your services. If you want more include it in the upfront charges.

Or if you prefer you can tip your doctor 15% of the charges or stay home sick

JRD

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Hell, when I pick up carryout there is line on the receipt for a tip. I guess I'm supposed to tip them for handing me my purchase and taking my money!? Yes, it is the service industry and they should pay employees and themselves a fair wage or profit. Tipping should be for exceptional service not just run of the mill. I know there are traditional services like restaurants and I tip the server even for routine service, because I know they are typically underpaid. So don't fall off your high horse or you'll have to tip someone to put you back on. Karma to you too!

Dot

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There are a few other circumstances that were not covered in the article that would have been helpful - valet parking attendants, housekeeper at a motel, those delivering luggage to a room, and the ultimate...how much does one tip a dealer and slot attendant at a casino. I didn't know until recently that dealers make only about $7.00 to $9.00/hour and rely heavily on tips.

S . Banister g

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Enjoyed article but something around 2014 or 2016 would be great. Thanks for info.

Carole

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I saw a post that says I'm cheap if I don't want to tip. Might be, but I'm weary of paying for service twice. A server takes the order and delivers the meal, and for that expects about 20% of the cost of the meal. Okay, but why is it based on the cost of the meal instead of the service? The servers at O'Charleys do the same amount of work as the servers at Ruth's Chris (and in my experience do it better) but at O'Charley's they might get $3 to serve that steak, while at Ruth's Chris it's more like $12. So, yep, I'm cheap, and I eat at home - a lot! Oh, and on the rare occasions I do go out, I don't tip on the tax.

Rebecca Shehan

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I do tip at restaurants, but only according to service and attitude. Personally I feel tipping has gotten out of hand. Everyone wants a tip, where do you draw the line. I worked at a department store for minimum wage, waited on customers, sometimes crawling on the floor to retrieve whatever they were interested in, spent time helping them pick out Christmas, Birthday presents, listened to their complaints and often worked many times past midnight at holiday season and in high heels on hard floors. I never expected nor got a tip. So I should tip a massage therapist who owns her own business, is the only employee and charges a hefty fee for her service??

Adriene

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If you go to a spa tipping is greatly appreciated. If you receive a massage at a clinical practice for a prescribed treatment, tipping is not expected. If it is a clinical practice that happens to offer massage and you are there solely for massage,but not because you have been injured or have chronic musculoskeletal pain, but are there for general well being and your insurance is STILL paying for it, a gesture of gratuity will be appreciated. The therapist may or may not accept it but surely a good referral and reference to the Office Manager or Physician(s) is most appreciated.
Massage Therapy is VERY physically demanding. It requires stamina for prolonged periods of time. Unless a therapist is working privately, a percentage of the fee( generally under 50%) or hourly wage is paid to the therapist.. When I give a private treatment session, I never expect a tip. However, the difference here is because I am keeping the whole fee for service, and I am sensitive still after 32 years experience of the cost, and charge reasonably. Massage is expensive because of the strenuous demands of the work not to mention the training to become a skilled Professional Practitioner. Please consider giving a 20% gratuity or try( no mal intent or sarcasm here) massaging someone WITHOUT STOPPING for 15 - 20 minutes. If you can without your fingers and hands tiring, good for you. If after 10mins. STRAIGHT/ NO STOPPING, you find yourself patting your friend on the back saying, okay? How's that? It means you'realize the fatigue it induces for a non professional, unskilled person. Thankyou!

Daphanae

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A HAIR STYLIST OR COLOR STYLIST IS A PROFESSIONAL....DO WE FEEL COMPELLED TO TIP DOCTORS OR DENTISTS WHO ARE ALSO CONSIDERED PROFESSIONALS??

S

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When it comes to a hairdresser or massage therapist or mani/pedi provider , is it customary to tip the sole proprietor the same as one that works for an Owner since the sole proprietor doesn't have to split a portion of the service fee and probably isn't paid an hourly rate?

JOHN PAULLING

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It's way past time to have stopped this tip business. What a needless hassle. Offer a price and let the customer take it or leave it.

Larry C.

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People are often confused on tipping a tour guide. As with most businesses, "tips are not expected, but are always appreciated". Guides that provide exceptional service (knowledgable, personable & go out of their way to make the group happy) should receive 15% - 20%. While private tours can be expensive, the invaluable service they provide (from offering historic & cultural info to suggestions on where to shop or eat) can make or break your visit. Tangible appreciation goes a long way!

Mike Washburn

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First and most frequent tip killer: soliciting tips by individuals. However If the establishment posts a sign like "Gratuities Appreciated" or even just a tip jar at the register that's ok.

Close behind is people responding poorly if they consider the tip inadequate. If you choose to explain anything that's up to you.

If the food is bad and the service good then I write on the check "Tip for service only". Vice versa for good food and bad service.

If you frequently patronize a service provider where tipping is s.o.p. then I recommend a little larger tip but not too much.

Another less frequent occurrence is when you see people stealing other's tips. Best to stay out of this one but you can at least put the tip amount on the check.

Another move is to fill in the "How did you like us form" and mail it.

My favorite is to write a review and put it on one of those travel websites. That is, for both especially bad and particulary good experiences.

For foreign countries you are on your own.

jackeb53

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Teachers don't get tips - or thanks or respect. So many haven't gotten raises in years, have to buy their own supplies and get no support from anyone - the public, the school boards, the administrators, the parents and especially not from so many of the children. I used to love teaching, but things have gotten so bad I had to retire early because I was close to a stroke or a nervous breakdown. Thank God if you don't have these problems - you're one of the lucky ones.

To Our Policemen - does this sound familiar?

When there are no teachers/education or policemen/laws, what will you do?

James Burger

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Tipping is an art LOST on society today. T.I.P.S. stands for "To insure prompt service" therefore... tipping SHOULD be done BEFORE the service takes place and NOT after. The restaurant business is the main cause for the misconception that exists today, even though its probably the place of origination. Example... When you go to a restaurant, you're supposed to tip the host or hostess by saying something like, "Please sir/ma'am, (money already in hand) could you seat us near that window?" Or a valet attendant.. (again, money in hand) "Park it where I could see it from just inside, please!"

How much should be left up to the person doing the tipping. The notion of a tip being "plus" a certain percentage of the bill is not only WRONG.. but solely based on a modern perception. But don't blame waitresses and waiters... the fault should fall to the owners of restaurants for underpaying their employees.

Criss

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Well, if everyone thinks they deserve a tip because they aren't making enough money, why don't people start tipping Walmart employees? They work hard and are treated like the scum of the earth by the customers and their managers. The cashiers, who stand on their feet all day long in one small area are constantly abused by people checking out.
Why don't we start tipping the school bus drivers, the fast food workers, the convenience store workers. FYI, there are many bartenders and servers who bring home over $500 per night in a good night, most of it tax free. The waitresses at the bar/restaurant I go to are paid $7.00 per hour plus tips, plus meals, and a few shift drinks as well as a spew drip inks throughout their shift. They bring home $200-$500 per night on a good night PLUS mist are on Medicaid and have free insurance, compliments of the tax payers.

S Mendel

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Hairstylist are licensed professionals. Licensed professionals should never be tipped and should never expect tips! My hairdresser gets paid on average $185 for 2 hours of which only about 1 hour is actually spent in the chair (the other is spent processing under a dryer). That's pretty good money for a little over an hour if time. Tips should be given to "non-professionals" only.

L

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Apparently you don't understand the business model of hair salons. In many businesses, the stylist is renting his/her "chair" from the owner. The stylist pays a monthly fee to the owner for that chair in the salon, which also covers the overhead of the facility. The stylist has to pay for all hair care products and hair color that his/her clients use. The stylist also has to pay for and provide his/her own equipment; scissors, blow dryer, combs, etc. The salon sets the prices for services and the time slots for services, the stylist has no control over that. You stylist isn't being paid $185 for two hours. She is being paid far less than that, and she is also paying for all products used on you and that $100 pair of scissors that she has to pay to have professionally sharpened periodically. Her license is required by the State, often as a health dept. requirement, and she has to pay a fee for that, too. Completely unrelated to an AMA licensed physician with 12 years of higher education. BTW, cab drivers are also licensed; completely unrelated.

Sue Green

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My husband has been driving for Uber for about 5 months, and he rarely receives a tip. Uber states on its website, "Tipping is not necessary" or something to that nature. This implies that Uber pays enough to cover a tip, but that is not the case. Some nights, my husband barely makes $5 an hour; there's a lot of downtime, as we don't live near a large metropolitan area. Anyway, I wish Uber would change its wording to something like "Tips are always appreciated" so that the riders don't think Uber is taking care of that.

Gary William Wollman

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I will gladly tip employees who style my hair or give me a pedicure or manicure but if the person doing the service is the owner, they are earning a profit off their services and those of their staff. That is enough of a reward.

Kim

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Can't for the life of me figure why I would tip someone that is making more than I do!

Jane May

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I usually tip room service 20%. In fact some hotels automatically add that onto the bill. $3-5 a day to the maid is acceptable.

Laura

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I have always heard that a standard "appreciated gift" for housecleaners is the amount of the standard cleaning fee. This is the first I've heard "twice the fee." Did the author of the article mean that you're leaving twice the standard fee because you're paying the fee plus paying the same amount as a gift? As worded, you seem to be saying that the holiday gift itself would be 2x the cleaning fee, which seems rather steep, say, for someone who cleans the hose every two weeks.

laura

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Why does dunkin donuts shops solicit tips at their drive through, they are not providing a service, simply selling you a cup of coffee. Since when should we tip someone just for selling us a product, I don't get it. Is it because they want to underpay their people. Sad.

barbara

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I understand that a lot of people are under paid, but that is not the customers fault.

Business owners have gotten into the habit of under paying because they assume the consumer will make up the difference with their tips and they'll happily pass on that responsibility.

I think there is a difference between fair wage and tipping for those who go above and beyond. I shouldn't have to feel like my tips bring people to minimum living standards. Paying fairly to retain top talent is the responsibility of the EMPLOYER and the consumer should only tip when someone goes above and beyond their basic job duty.

Stacy

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I do agree that employers need to start being responsible for paying a decent wage. It also seems like tips are becoming more commonplace in every location - when did sandwichmakers start pushing for tips? I understand that in restaurants, waiters and waitresses are payed below minimum wage due to tip expectations, but I'm pretty sure subway pays it's employees at or above minimum wage. I'm also wondering how tip percentages continue to increase. 10 percent was the norm about 20 years ago, then 15 and now 20. Product prices have continued to increase which means that tips increase - that's the great thing about percentages. It's gotten a bit out of hand in my opinion. Also, I feel pressured to leave a higher tip even when the service is crappy, just in case I decide to return. It's really not my problem that the service person has had a bad day, is not feeling well, got stiffed just before they served me, etc - I'm still the one getting subpar service and still expected to leave a good tip. Where's the justice in that?

Sarah

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Obviously you are too cheap to tip. Stay home then. You being cheap, will not change how companies pay their employees. It only makes you a jerk.

B

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While that may be true, for people working in tipping industries, without tips their service prices would simply go up meaning at which point you're paying the extra money and now its being split between the employee and company. No you're not required to tip, but I wouldn't expect top notch service from anyone providing it to me without one. The waitress you tip, will have your order out first, the stylist you tip will take an extra 20 at the end of an appointment to give you a more extravagant style. It's never your responsibility to tip, but it's a genuine human courtesy.

Rachael

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I'm usually that 20% tipper, but I have to say, sometimes it's just not necessary! I liked the comment on how you should tip what you can afford. I had done that a week ago when I got my hair done. I'm so tired of feeling that I "have to" tip this amount.

John

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If you knew how much the hair dresser makes you wouldn't want to tip them anyway. I went out with one for 6 months, she got 1/2 of what the total charge was, so if you paid $200.00 for a cut and perm she gets $100.00.

Marian

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For valet at your place of residence, every time you use your car, or once a year?
Maintenance from building staff?
Managers? Should they receive a Christmas tip?
This is in Las Vegas, not New York. I think the culture may be a little different.

Marian

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I frequent a med-spa, where cosmetic medical procedures are performed, such as Botox injections, laser hair removal, etc.. They also offer facials, manis, pedis, and non-surgical procedures. I usually do not leave a tip for these medical procedures, but there is an option to leave a tip on credit card receipts. what is typical???

Deanna

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I am a nurse and I agree that tipping is not appropriate. However,I would like to point out that the estimate for a new nurse just starting out is NOT 25-30$/ hr. It is closer to 15-20. Nurses do not make " bonuses" for working evening or night shift. They make a shift differential. It is somewhere around 1-2$/ hr.
It is always appreciated when families who feel they received good or exceptional care send a card or note.

Jeff

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I wonder how much you have to pay for medical benefits. I have to pay $1200 per month

Parmachella

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In fact it is unethical to take a tip if one is a nurse. Some hospitals will dismiss staff who accept any type of gratuity. In the past the vast majority of nurses entered the profession because of a vocation. Social changes have occurred and now many of the people are in nursing to get a paycheck. This can be measured by attitude and performance. This includes attitude toward standards and principles. To be a professional means providing a skill acquired after years (literally, minimum 10,000 hours) of study and practice and then getting a license to practice. In other jobs where tipping is customary, it depends on the city, age and culture of the client and worker. "To Insure Service" is what the word is an acronym for. So to tip licensed professionals is in fact an offense. I am aware of the type of nurse that encourages tipping, but you better believe they never would do that encouraging in front of their supervisor. If you feel pressured to tip a nurse ask the supervisor for help in deciding what you can do... That way your appreciation will be conveyed to a superior, who can suggest the token that will be in keeping with professional ethics.

Li

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Nursing pay depends a lot on location, both as to where you are living and your practice setting. I'm an OR nurse with over 15 years of experience, the first 7 in a Level 1 trauma center, the last 8 at a VA medical center, both in a small metro area with a fairly low cost of living. I make a bit over $32/hr, and that's with a BSN and specialty credentialing. I know I could make more if I returned to the private sector, but to make up for lower pay, benefits are outstanding. Also, my patients are the best! It's such a pleasure serving those who have served for us, and who express their appreciation when we are taking care of them.

A nice note or card is appreciated, and given recent news coverage about the VA, a letter to the editor, or to your Senator or Congressperson is even better.

As a professional, I don't expect a tip any more than would the surgeons I work with (not to mention that it's highly illegal in the government sector). We do have patients that bring homemade goodies for all staff during the holiday season. We can accept that as it's of nominal value, and it's to be shared.

Michele

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Where do you work! I do not know a new nurse that makes less tha $20 in a hospital!

Phil

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I will be taking my third wine tour in as many years tomorrow and I've never seen anything on the appropriate amount to tip our tour guide. These people not only drive the van, but act as host and maintain relationships with all the wineries. They have to be knowledgeable about what their clientele likes and which wineries offer the best balance to meet those tastes. So I think they deserve something; I'm just not sure how much. Any thoughts out there?

Jp

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Everything you listed is their basic job. They're getting paid. It's not a tipping situation

ktintx

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Went on a wine tour with a group of us (6-8 women) and we all chipped in what we had. I think it averaged out to about $5 per person from our group. This was a small, intimate tour. I think $5 is appropriate depending on what's included in your tour. Ours included transportation, wine tastings at every location, and food.

LeelahG

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Having worked in the service industry many times I can assure you that every situation is different. Those waiters at the chi-chi restaurant? Probably paid less than minimum wage as stipulated in their hiring contract. Some restaurants split the tips among the whole staff, while in other places the server receives the tips from their table(s) & is expected to give a percentage of their tips to the waiter's helpers. That massage therapist at the spa? Either a flat rate, regardless of the service, or a small percentage that also takes into account the discount you paid (no, they do not receive 1/2 the price of the service. Really.) The shampoo person? Minimum wage -- if they're lucky.
If you're going to go out, treat people the way you'd wish to be treated. The Golden Rule shouldn't be dead because of money.

Lynn N

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Great comment! I too have worked in the service (food/beverage) industry for years. I've worked in several resort areas. So many people just don't tip well or at all. Escpecially from different countries. I feel as though if one is not sure, it's much appreciated to leave what you are comfortable with - as long as you don't leave change, which seems like an insult rather than a compliment on your service.

Joann M. Griswold

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Even in the 50s when I, an RN, started out, ( at ridiculously low hourly wages even then) there were no tips expected nor accepted. It was considered an insult...turning the professional into someone who was a subordinate to the person being cared for. Certainly today, that should still be the case...and any RN usually ( depending on area) starting out
at @$25-$30 an hour with bonuses for working evenings and nights...and with experience, and specialty training,advance to much higher salaries. How an RN making $40,000-$85,000 a year can even think about gtting a tip when the server is not even making minimum wage. The school of nursing he/she/ went to has been remiss in impressing upon its students the pride in the profession, and the responsibilities of being a true professional.

Stacey

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I agree nursing shouldn't be tipped however i think most professions shouldn't either!

I dont know where nurses make that kind of money but after almost 20 years...i still dont! Bonuses in healthcare havent been around for YEARS either. Obamacare has really messed up the medical fields!

Adam

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A few people have noted "TIPS does mean To Insure Proper Service." This is urban legend, and if you disagree I encourage you to post a source.

1) The correct word is "ensure", so the acronym would be TEPS.
2) Why would you tip in a restaurant you where you never expect to return, for example on vacation, or a cab driver?
3) How does tipping AFTER the fact, ensure anything?

Tipping is essentially custom. There's no rhyme or reason why some professions are tipped and others aren't, though highly paid professionals generally don't get tipped. There's more and more tipping because, as noted below, people in some industries say "how about us?"

Taxi drivers, servers, and casino dealers work with a business model that REQUIRES that people tip. Not sure other business work that way.

Dana

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It actually is insure (like insurance). You are insured good service (or should be, anyway) BECAUSE you tip - or should be that is. Get it?

Barbara toliver

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I live in a small Oregon town. Hairdresser, pet groomer and most other personal care businesses are owner operated. I don't always tip the owner for services since I feel he is charging me an appropriate fee. Is this correct? I think a Christmas gratuity is fine and probably expected.

Deborah

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Postal workers do make a good wage but the biggest misconception is that your taxes pay their salary. The post office has generated it's own revenue ,NOT taxes, for the last few DECADES. That is why they are financially struggling now. A lot of people are using the internet now for paying bills, advertising etc. instead of paying postage.

Tom

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Do a little research before you make a statement... the US Post Office receives various subsidies and tax breaks from the US Government each year worth BILLIONS... and that is every year... wanna take a guess who pays for it?

Paula Cadiente

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I tried to tip the mail carrier where I worked because we had tons of mail. He thanked me but said that postal employees were not permitted to accept tips.

carla devenport

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I am a middle-class American and am amazed at how fortunate I am, every time I think what this means in a world view. I have always tipped service personnel, according to the quality of the work provided (10% for mundane service, 20% for excellent service). Most of my tips fall in the 20% range. I know how hard it is for a single person to get by on minimum wage, let alone if that person has a family to support. How selfish it would be not to acknowledge the good work done by a waitperson, hair stylist or hotel maid, not to mention the countless other people that I encounter in service positions. Years ago, I taught this to my son, and now I'm proud to see that his daughters carry on the practice. It doesn't hurt any of us to show our appreciation to those who perform services for us. To me, it's simply a matter of what is right!

Ric

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I go to a doctors office for therapeutic facials. Do I tip there?

Paul Taylor

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I am interested in suggestions on how much to tip on a train. How much more would one tip the porter in a sleeping car?

Deborah

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I believe an appropriate tip for an attendant on a sleeper car is $5 per night per person. Of course, you can always go up or down depending on your personal experience.

Mike

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I disagree with basing a tip on the cost of a meal or anything else. I base it on the quality of service. Someone working in a diner may provide better service than someone working in a 4 star restaurant. So, I may tip the diner server 50%, while the 4 star server 10%. It is not fair that because someone who is lucky enough to work in an expensive place to get a larger tip than one who doesn't.

Gayle

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This is what I'm saying! No matter where you eat, if the server has to clean up after messy kids (or adults) beyond a normal expectation, or if they must bring condiments or refill drinks with numerous trips to the table - you create the need, so you should tip. My base is first for the table (which had to be prepared by someone), and then the number of people seated, and the number of trips beyond the basic three (order, deliver food/order, check-back once). A good server knows the menu inside and out and doesn't have to go ask the answers to your questions, so those trips don't count. And if the order is all correct with all sides and requests fulfilled, that's a bonus tip. Now that's expected, you say? Yes, but only a good server actually gets it right.

"Porky"

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The whole concept of tipping is for the quality of service that you receive. You give a little extra to the person that is serving you. In a restaurant you aren't required to tip but it is a common practice to do so. I tip according to the service I receive. If the service was mediocre then my tip is accordingly. If the bill is $50.00 I will tip $5 or $6. If my service was good than I tip $10.00. If my service was above and beyond with a friendly atmosphere and fun type server then my tip will be $15 to $20. Believe me they will remember you the next time you show up and want to take care of you again. Only once or twice have I left $.50 for service and I bet they were mad at me but didn't understand why. Oh Well..Nuff said.

Joe H.

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Porky, I went to a restaurant for breakfast one time and ordered Eggs over light. when the eggs were brought to me, they were sunny side up. i asked the waitress to take them back and was told that was not her job. i told her she took the order so it was, indeed. I finally had to get the manager to take care of me. when I left, I put two pennies on the table with a note that said I decided to tip you what your service was worth. As I was walking out I saw her throw them down in anger and two other waitresses laugh at her. i hope she learned to wait better!

Ted

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I am able to do much international travel. In many countries, such as Italy and Japan, my local friends get very excited (unpleasantly) when I start to automatically leave a tip. They say that "Americans are spoiling it for everyone". The guys that wrote "Freakonomics" did one of their studies on the variability in the practice of tipping among different countries and concluded that there is a direct correlation between tipping and perceived corruption in the countries studied. Given the current practices in the US Congress, I think we fit that conclusion perfectly.

Rebecca

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I have been in the serving industry for 35 plus years, and while there are a few valid points made here, there is one misconception I think should be mentioned.
As it's been stated the word TIPS does mean To Insure Proper Service. So I would like to make one point, If servers made minimum wage or more per hour, it wouldn't make much of a difference to us, whether you had a good experience or would want to come back, as we will make our money no matter what. The reason we are tipped is to make sure you are happy and do want to come back again and again.
There are so many other things I would like to say on both sides, but I will get off my soap box and truly wish you all much happiness in any job your in.

Fran

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First let me say that I tip 20% at restaurants. That said, I thought the comments on server salaries was interesting. I live in Oregon and our servers get minimum wage and sometimes more, and I'm sure Washington servers get the same. I do, however, know that other states servers don't get minimum wage and depend on the tips for a decent salary.

BECCA

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In South Carolina servers get paid around $2.00-$2.50 an hour, way under minimum wage. Tips are expected and needed in order to make anything near the cost of living.

TERRI

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I don't think tipping should be an issue. I think it should be the responsibility of the company. Why not add up the totals per week or month of an employee and "the company" tip them. People like table clearers, dish washers, cooks, helpers, should be paid a set wage and not work "for tips" to survive. When 20% tip is automatically added to my bill I am relunctant to pay it because I don't believe the tip goes to the workers...it goes to the company who is usually charging too much anyways. Pay all people good hourly wages and take the burden off the patrons!

Judy

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So much talk about who and how much and wether you should or not. Are we not all servers in one way or another, even if it is not in our title? Why then should some receive this gift and not others? We should all be paid a fair wage for what we provide to each other and be proud of the job we do, that should be a true American. If you are not receiving a fair wage then change it or your job. How restaurant owners get away with not paying their employees a fair wage is ludicrous, then no one would "have" to tip.

Dana

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I've worked at many bars & restaurants, and we've never had a dishwasher get tips. They do get a flat hourly rate. Bussers on the other hand, make a flat wage as well as tip out (from us servers). At my current location, we tip 10% of our tips. Meaning if you leave 20, 2 dollars goes to the busser. Also, when you tip, it never goes to the establishment. Servers keep all our tips (unless we claim them, then some goes to the IRS).

Jenn

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Thanks for publishing this, I am often unsure what sort of tip is expected for a service. I did not grow up in the US, so tipping wasn't a common practice in any of the countries I lived in. I did wait tables to put myself through school. I can say that is very difficult work. I was paid around $3 an hour. The restaurants took 5% of my sales a night to contribute for bartenders and bus boys. In addition to taking orders, prepping and dropping food and drinks, and cleaning/prepping tables for the next customer, we always had extra duties. For example, cleaning the bathrooms. At the end of the night doing things like filling condiments, rolling silverware, and scrubbing down the establishment is no easy task. You still get $3+/- for that time. We were taxed based on our sale and an estimation of at least 15% of your total sales as tips (the 5% still goes to tip out mentioned above). It is nasty work. You are exhausted and smelly. The job is appealing because you can work after class and so it is possible to make enough money to live/go to school, though you aren't living well and probably aren't eating much beyond what a restaurant discounts for you. Regardless, I was happy to be able to work, live, and get an education and certainly happy for those kind and generous customers that understood and tipped well. It meant I could buy groceries, an article of clothing or afford an international call to talk to my parents. I know there must be many other similar professions out there, so thank you for educating me!

MoodIndigo

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$2 per dog seems very low for pet groomers....as many others have already commented. One of my preferred groomers works in a pet shop and I'm sure she doesn't earn much more than minimum wage -- but the way she treats my spoiled dogs is worth its weight in gold.

Then again, we pet owners are insane, right??

Lynn N

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We have 2 dogs that we get groomed every 1-2 mos. One of our dogs is so sweet, just sits there and lets you do anything to her without complaint. The other dog - different story......He hates being bathed, trimming nails is near impossible. I know he is a pain - so we tip accordingly. We give the tip for the good dog included in the tip for our trouble maker dog, but we ALWAYS tell her we know that he is a pain and the extra is for him. We live in HI and know the tips are really appreciated here!!

Sandra Spencer

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Every Christmas, I get a card from the mail carrier and the newspaper delivery person, suggesting tips would be welcome. I get paid to educate children -- these people get paid to deliver mail and papers. Personally, I think this has gone a bit too far.

Ken Johnston

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I agree with Jane. I am a retired Letter Carrier and would never ask a customer for a tip or a gift. Besides, it used to be in the regulations that Carriers cannot, or should not, accept tips (of money, I believe). Where I delivered it was a very upscale and wealthy community, but that did not prompt either myself, or any other Carrier I knew, to seek out tips or gifts.
Letter Carriers, are technically Government Employees (although NO TAXES support the USPS), and are paid quite well for the work they perform, and the benefits provided only add to that income. I am proud to say that I served my community as a U.S. Postal Service Letter Carrier.

Jane

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I am a mail carrier and I do not know any mail carrier that would tell a customer a tip would be appreciated. We have certain guidelines we must follow...and I for one follow those guidelines. I am paid to do my job and I give my customers great service. Some customers just want to give you something at Christmas...it may or may not be a gift of money. There is a $ limit on gifts. Sometime customers share their garden with you...just because they like you. I just can't imagine one of us actually suggesting our customers tip us! Really!!!

Jill

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come on everyone. I realize that we all make choices in our lives, but servers, hair stylists, and many other service industry professionals make my life better and easier. They deserve to get a tip based on the service they provide.

Gail

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Let me start off by saying I tend to tip well. At restaurants, salons, spas, lodging, baggage handling, I tip on the high end of what is recommended. I do not tip my paper carrier, postman, sanitation pick up because service over the last few decades has deteriorated from what I saw when I was growing up and my parents did tip these service people. Newspaper is usually in my driveway. Trash cans are often left in the street. Postal workers make a good salary on my dime as a taxpayer. I am always polite and courteous to all service providers, but tipping for doing your job is not something I regularly do.
As well, for carry out service, I tip, but certainly not the same as I would for dining in as a previous commenter suggested. Come to my home, set and clear the table for the meal, and I will reward you handsomely!

Lloyd

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What is an appropriate tip for take-out from a restaurant where most customers are seated? I usually tip 20% for service at a restaurant but have never heard what the norm is for take-out. Typically I tip about half of what I would if I had a sit down meal. Is that appropriate?

mark

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I am of the same mind as you. I tip 20% for sit down service, but go with the 10% for take out service.

SHIRLEY LATHAM

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I'M A GENEROUS TIPPER. I EVEN TIP THE GAS STATION ATTENDANTS $1 FROM TIME TO TIME. THEY ARE ALSO OUT IN ALL KIND OF WEATHER PUMPING GAS AND ARE FOGOTTEN ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO TIPPING. MY LANDSCAPERS GET TIPPED DURING THE CUTTING SEASON AND AT CHRISTMAS, USUALLY A TOTAL OF ABOUT $40 FOR THE YEAR. THEY WORK HARD AND GO OVER AND ABOVE THE REQUIREMENTS (PULL WEEDS, CUT THE DEAD FLOWERS AFTER THEY'VE BLOOMED, ETC.) AND I APPRECIATE THE "EXTRA" SERVICE. I AM A WIDOW AND HAVE A HALF-ACRE OF PROPERY SO CAN'T DO IT MYSELF.

L. Taylor

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You still have gas station attendants pumping gas????
I haven't seen that in at least 15+ years! I'd definitely tip for that. You can't even get air for your tires in most local stations in Las Vegas! If they have it you pay for it and pump it yourself just like the gas.

Nita Wirtz

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We travel extensively and always leave a $5 bill near the welcome card identifying our daily maid, or sometimes lay it on the bed, each day. Since the maids sometimes change from day to day, this makes more sense than leaving a tip at the end of our stay.

Cynthia Sharp

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I think that many people do not take care of these hardworking under appreciated individuals. I leave a tip every day between $3 and $5. I go to the bank before I travel and make sure I have plenty of $$$ bills to tip those who make my travels easier and more comfortable.

Chris

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Many people in the various service industries work for minimum wage OR LESS. Think about it, friends - minimum wage is not very much over the poverty level (and the poverty level is getting worse faster than the minimum wage is rising). Service people DEPEND on the generosity of their "guests" to keep ahead of poverty.
That being said, those service people should be trying really hard to satisfy their guests and thereby earn the tip that they need.
One area of service providers has been totally ignored in this discussion. I work as a dealer in a Las Vegas casino - and that IS a service position. My guests always ask me "what the book says" about how to play, they always say "are you going to let me win?", they always want to me smile and "treat [them] nicely." They EXPECT me to respond to those requests. Sometimes they get very nasty when the don't think their dealer is giving them the smile or the EXPERT advise they demand. (Make no mistake - players ask for and expect to get that expert advise.) And I AM an expert, professional service provider, with decades of experience to develop that expertise.
Nevertheless, dealers in Nevada and elsewhere make wage close to those paid by McDonald's and Walmart and, like most service providers, depend on tips to feed their kids.
You think a dealer's job is glamorous and thrilling. Oh my, the Vegas Strip, the neon, the big names, the glitz! But in truth, a dealers job is often struggling with drunken, rude, abusive jerks, who want the advice and the smiles. Then, after 2 or 3 or 4 hours of demands and complaints about not winning or no smiles or whatever, win 2 or 5 or 10 times their original buy-in and leave with a mumbled "thanks" if they bother to do that much.
So how 'bout it, friends? In Vegas or AC or anywhere else, consider your dealer (and waitress, who serves you drinks you don't have to pay for). If they've given you good service, offered advice, and you've won a satisfying amount, give us a little... Unlike food servers, who think that 20% is a Good Tip, a dealer would be very grateful for your token of appreciation. Whether you win is not within the dealer's ability to control. So even if you loose but the dealer is giving you the service you're asking for, a gratuity is in order, don't you think?
Finally, consider this: if you make a bet for the dealer, you'e only spending half (or less) of what the dealer actually "takes down" for your tip.
We all appreciate your patronage in our casino, we all hope you walk out a winner, and we all are willing to provide the service you want and expect. All we want is that you appreciate our service with a token of your appreciation...

Linda

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Las Vegas is a different animal, and people need to learn the culture of the places they visit. Before I moved here I watched other people and always asked good servers if a tip was appropriate. Some said they were not allowed to take tips, others would say it was always appreciated, depending on their positions. When I moved here I got a job on the casino marketing phone lines, which means I booked the regular gamblers' rooms & promotions. They would bring me all sorts of gifts upon their visits, which shocked me. I was just doing my job, although I was only paid half what I had been paid back East! The Dealers, Hosts and Hotel workers have it the roughest because they are face to face with the volatility in a casino environment. I could always hang up (although I only remember doing that once)!

JOHN CAPELLA

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No one deserves a tip merely because they are there. We tip 20% of the entire bill if the service is good and if the service is bad we tip nothing at all. The one exception to this rule is in home or business services such as electricians, plumbers, carpenters, locksmiths etc. etc. if they are the owner of the company we tip them nothing, if they are a non-owner worker then we tip them 20%, not to ever exceed $100. : we never tip commission based salespeople, their tip is their commission. For FedEx, U.P.S., the Mailman, non-owner Landscapers, and the Poolman: everyone gets $100. each at Christmas time. People that do a good job deserve a tip and those that do not don't. Most people are very budgeted in their spending these days and so please remember that a $50. Christmas tip to your landscaper may have just bought his kid that toy for Christmas he wanted but dad couldn't afford. If you believe that you can't afford to tip, then go to less expensive places so that you can tip. And always check the very beginning and or end of a restaurant's menu because some clearly say that a 20% gratuity is added into the bill so you may be double tipping unknowingly.

Sam

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I have heard that if your hairdresser is the owner of the salon then no tip is needed.
Does anyone have thoughts?

Kelley Price

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Regarding UPS, FedEx, US Mail mailcarrier - many companies, and certainly the US Postal service, have policies regarding what their employees are allowed to accept. For most of them $20 - $25 is the maximum allowed.

Peter Pullicino

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I'm a automotive mechanic and like most of us we work for a company who makes a fair amount of money providing a service but as far as the actual mechanic who's working on your vehicle we don't get paid that well at all and usually don't receive any type of tips and if the tip I'd given to the manager then we definitely don't see it because most of them pocket it themselves so if you do tip ask to speak to the person who worked on the vehicle to insure they get it. But just remember we work in very hot and very cold conditions and get covered in dirt and grease on a daily basis. So when thinking you should tip service people remember your local mechanic who keeps your vehicle running everyday

carole

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Wow. Many of you who commented are real jerks. I have never worked in a service industry (unless you consider teaching English as such), but I know plenty of people who have and plenty who still do. So -- I hope they spit in your food. I usually get very good service when I eat out (which isn't often, as I am raising 2 teenage boys with a less than stellar salary), and I always tip 20%. That's how servers make their living, folks. They don't earn minimum wage. So I agree with another poster who unkindly posted that she would prefer to stay home rather than tip people who are already being paid by their employers. Good -- STAY HOME. I really don't want to have to encounter such unpleasant people.

BJ Nash

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Carole, to spit in someone's food for whatever reason is disgusting. I hope you aren't teaching this to the ones you're teaching English. I'm 80 years old and spitting in someone's food, spitting on someone, spitting period has never crossed my mine. That's just how my parents taught their 6 children.

Carren

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You are pretty unpleasant yourself, Carol, telling people you hope that food servers spit in their food.

We tip 20% to waitress, waiters, etc. and hairdressers and most others.

Kathleen Ryll

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Don't forget to tip when you pick up food you have ordered for take-out. My daughter used to work in food service and says they do a lot of work to fill the order and the tip should be the same as for dine-in.

Allen

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It is ridiculous to compare sitting at a table for an hour with the server having to bring me water, then my drinks (maybe more than once), then my appetizer, then my entre, then maybe even desert to taking 1-2 min to put some containers in a bag (the cooks put most of the food in the containers). Even if it took 5 min (and it shouldn't) there is no way they deserve the same tip as the person who waited on me for an hour in the resturant. $1-2 per meal/entre should be the standard tip for carry out.

Barbara

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Kathleen, I don't agree that a takeout should be tipped as much as a water/waitress. Take out people are not cleaning off your table, bringing you water, delivering your food to you, and coming back many times to check on refills etc.

Gail

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I definitely tip on carryout, but certainly not the same as if I dined in (20%). If the worker wants to come to my home to set and clear the table, I would happily give up the 20%. Other than that it is between $2-$5, depending on what I ordered. Carryout is a volume business, so those tips should add up.

Kathy

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I beg to differ - I used to bartend at a restaurant -- and I dealt with the take-out side.
The Cooks who cook the take-out food -- put the food in the take-out containers
instead of on a real plate (not the waitresses). All the waitresses do it put them
in the bag and add the utensils and napkins -- and then ring you out !
You don't TIP at take-out places because the waitress did nothing but put
the Styrofoam container in a bag !!! Plus, the waitresses who work the take-out
side of the business make a higher wage - because the managers know they
don't get tips !!

Donna

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We all want to be valued and appreciated. We all have bills to pay. Think of that when you decide whether or not to tip. And how much to give. If you have a long standing relationship with the person providing the service you will most likely WANT to give them something. When I get a take-out delivery I usually tip the same amount as one of the items I ordered. I always think of the delivery person as one of my kids scrambling for gas money while they try to make their way in life. My massage therapist greatly improves my health and quality of life. I WANT to give her something. If I receive poor service or attention @ a restaurant......different story! Very small cash tip that hopefully sends a message. I never add my tip to the credit charge when I pay. I always leave cash. I feel I am giving a gift to the person. And I always have a stash of popular gift cards for holidays or "just because" moments. I stock up whenever I have some extra $$ .

Karen

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I don't mind tipping for good service. What ticks me off now is it seems like everywhere you go they have set up tip jars. I am sorry but if I do all the work and you just stand being the counter, I am not going to tip you.

Joseph

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The people behind the counter are still preparing your food. YOU are doing nothing other than standing at the counter and waiting to have your food handed to you. I always tip those jars and I always get faster service when I come in as they know I appreciate their efforts on my behalf!

shawn

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TIPS= To insure proper service! I'm a waitress. Tip 15-20% of the entire bill everytime you eat out! just do it, It's like an unsaid agreement when you go out & sit down in a restaurant. If you think the service sucks, complain to a manager & decrease the tip accordingly. Remember, we are human. It is known protocol to tip Barbers/hairdressers, masseuses, cabs/limos all 15-20%, same with your bartender/barista $1-2 per drink.
If you can't afford to tip get take-out or go grocery shopping, try cutting your own hair too! All of these people need additional licences and continuing education at their jobs, despite your ignorance to these facts. These jobs are under the name Service Industry, they are providing you with a luxury. Tipping is part of that lifestyle.
Not everyone can do these jobs, it requires patience and people really good at these jobs can help indecisive, wishy-washy customers have a great experience by having menu & wine knowledge, knowing the right way to cut your coarse curly hair, the quickest way thru the city traffic or how to get that numbing not from your lumbar.

As for contractor jobs, I agree with the owners, tip not expected. I did get an amazing crew assigned to put my flooring in & they even fixed a door in my house that was sticking everytime they went thru it. They did more than the big box store promised, removing closet doors & replacing molding. I wish I could have tipped them more I gave them $50. I don't know what the big box store paid them because it was free installation.

Anna Marie Peterson

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I was an EMT/medic for 6 years on a volunteer ambulance...no tips and free service. I have been a registered nurse for 20+ years...no tips. The Drs. and other health care providers who save lives...no tips. Paramedics who climb in and around dangers to get you out of your wrecked car, carry you down 3 flights of stairs because a stretcher won't fit, or carry you because you are 300 lbs and won't fit on a gurney...no tip. Firefighters who rush in to burning buildings as you rush out? No tips. Policeman whose lives are constantly in danger while providing you 24/7 protection and service...NO TIPS. Why do I give someone who takes down my order and delivers my food a 20% tip? Why should the mailman expect a tip? Sure they work hard, they are expected to, as our we who DON'T expect a tip.

ericinLA

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As you're probably aware, public safety services personnel are pretty well-paid, with minimums in the $30k range and on up to $65-85k for senior police and fire personnel. Volunteers aside (do they EXPECT compensation for volunteering?), these people don't need tips. Service workers that aren't unionized and work in hospitality, however, don't even receive minimum wage, and tips are the only thing standing between their jobs and poverty. It's hard to imagine comparing yourself as a $40,000 nurse to a $20,000 hairdresser or a $16,000 manicurist or waiter. And don't get me started on employees who don't even have the opportunity to earn tips, such as fast-food and discount store workers.

Diane Joss

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We have 3 palm trees that are maybe 50-60 ft. tall. I pay $50 a tree twice a year to have the fronds cut and the thick tree callus taken off at the top.($150 in Jan., $150 in July) I'm always so nervous that the guy might fall and break his neck, that when he's done I give him an extra $20. Not many have the guts or the equipment to do this risky work and I think they deserve a tip.

Chad

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I can see both sides of the argument. Restaurant wait staff hustle and depend on tips. Without them, they couldn't justify working there. It is the norm. I'm always cringing when I get the check and it has a blank tip line when I pay by credit card. If I thought the meal with overpriced, or if the kitchen was slow--all of which is not my server's fault--I feel slighted to have to pay more. But I'd feel like an @$$ if didn't tip.

Let's change the charge card slip that you write your tip amount, calculate the total, and sign your name:
Instead of having a subtotal and then a blank line for how much to ADD to the bill for the tip, why can't we have the slip post the 15% tip amount and add it to the bill, with the OPTION of a TIP REDUCTION by the customer?

As a customer, I'd feel much better about having a $30 check presented to me, another $4.50 added as a suggested tip, and then giving me the option for how much to REDUCE the tip. I'd feel much less pressure, and would tip more in the long run, if it was presented this way. The pre-total now is $34.50. I might be a little miffed at seeing my waitress chatting with a coworker off to the side instead of giving me attention for service that I'd need. I'd hold back $1. They would still get a good tip, and I wouldn't feel the pressure for how much to REWARD mediocre service...I'd feel empowered to give smaller penalties for infractions.

Just a thought!

marilyn ackerman

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why not write "cash" on the tip line and leave your cash tip on the table.
That way you are in control and they can't add on the line for you (not saying they do....)

bytecrawler

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At least it is in the Seattle area. The trend is to boost minimum wage to $15. It's happened already in Seattle and is rapidly spreading to surrounding areas. That's for everyone regardless of whether they get tips. It will be interesting to see what happens to the tipping culture when prices start going up to reflect the higher wages and everyone has the same minimum wage.

Judy Russell

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I was a mail carrier for 20 years. Around the Christmas season a few generous people would leave me a cash gift to show their appreciation. Legal or not, most of the mail carriers, including myself, would accept this gift. We figured it was nobody else's business!

Paul

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Nurses are the hardest working people around. If you have crappy nurse they still get paid just like the good nurse does. Its not right for a hair stylist or anyone else getting a tip that they can make more in an hour than a nurse or any healthcare giver.

Debra

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Wow, sounds like many of the people making these comments have never worked in a service industry, I haven't either but know many that have and support their families with this income. A wait staff makes $3/hr then yes they work for tips. Tipping in a restaurant is typical & if someone can pay 15% for being served then maybe they should stay home or spend a day serving ungrateful people. Were did kindness & compassion go in our society?

jan

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kindness and compassion are a learned behavior and not taught by the t.v., computer, or any other tech toy. as more and more mothers are getting employed, children are raising themselves. take the hen out of the nest and God out of everything else and it will only get worse.

George Weller

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Tips= To Insure Proper Service
I tip food servers, taxi drivers, and anyone who does their jobs that meets the above meaning of tips! I don't think you should tip someone who cuts or styles your hair. They should be greatfull that you are willing to pay the outrageous prices they charge.

Renee

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I struggle with this issue. It doesn't make sense to me to tip the owner of the business, but I sense the expectation and give in. I'm interested why others tip in this situation. You might say tip to show appreciation for a good hair cut - but I do that by coming back.

Ainimache

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Actually, it's not illegal to give the postal carrier a tip, it's just the amount is limited to $20 (a year) - cash or value of gift.
It was on our local news last Christmas.

Melissa

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Why do we leave a dollar every time a bartender pours a drink? All they do is lift a bottle and most mixed drinks are easy. Do we just do this to assure that they will not ignore us next time or remember us? Is this right?

Diane Duncan

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I agree with you. I don't understand tipping dollars for such easy work. Grabbing a beer from the cooler does not justify a dollar! Some drinks do take more effort. Remembering all the ingredients and mixing the right amounts definitely makes a difference, so in that case a dollar may be worth it. As for the most easiest cocktails, beer, and wine I see nothing wrong in either leaving change or tipping periodically through the evening.

Silvia

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I tip the server, hair stylist, taxi driver, housekeeper IN HOTELS, bartender, manicurist. The plumber? The handyman fixing my floor? No way. Charge me a fair rate and that is what I will pay. This tipping everyone and anyone is absurd. If the handyman, or anyone else feels they are underpaid, then improve your service and charge more. What is next? Tipping my doctor????

Daniel

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For those that travel and stay in hotels, historically some of the most forgotten and most underpaid workers in the service industries are hotel housekeepers. They work incessantly through their workdays plowing through dirty towels, sheets, toilets, coffee makers and carpets in dozens of rooms so that a guest's room arrival or return is welcoming.

Since these workers are so generally forgotten and taken advantage of, I wouldn't argue for some set percentage of a room rate, but $2-5 dollars per room occupant per day can make a huge difference in these workers' lives. For one to two guests per room that usually amounts to much less than 10% of most hotel room rates.

I always leave a 'thank-you' note on the hotel room's note paper with the tip so that it is clear that it was not 'forgotten' money, or worse for the worker, stolen. We have often received notes back from housekeepers thanking us for our 'generosity.' How sad is that?

Judy

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I think it scandalous that tipping is expected, almost mandatory. I suspect that if you fail to tip at a restaurant, you will not get much service the next time you visit! I like the policy in Japan, NO tipping. It is considered an INSULT to pay (tip) a professional beyond the bill, and that includes waitstaff, bellhops, etc. I worked for over 40 years--hard, I may add--and never received a tip. I went to college for the equivalent of 9 years full time and my expense to get a job that paid decently. I resent paying extra to people who chose not to get training or education. And I doubly resent tipping people for just doing their jobs, If they do something above and beyond, that is different. I do tip for extraordinary service.

Randy

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I used to work as a waiter. It is how I put myself through college, so I speak from experience. Here is what would happen, if we did away with tipping (as you suggest) and replaced it with an hourly wage:

** No incentive for the waiter to hustle, so that he can turn tables in a timely manner (More tables = more tips); for you - this means slower service. Why should I turn over more tables when I get paid the same hourly wage no matter how hard I work. The waiter will do the minimum work to get by without a complaint.

**No incentive for extra attentive service. Yes, I still need to be nice and give you OK service so taht I do not lose my job, but without an excellent tip on the line I have no extra incentive to go above and beyond. I no longer care if your glass is empty - sure, if you ask I will get you a refill, but otherwise don't expect to see me except when your food is ready.

**No incentive to make suggestions, or introduce you to items you might not have considered. Basicall, the waiter has no incentive to improve your dining experience - he/she gets paid for merely smiling and taking your order.

Bottom Line: Your tip improves the odds that I get good service when I go out to eat and vice versa. Please tip your poor waiter/waitress with a smile. They work a lot harder than you can imagine.

Kelli

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I am also educated with 3 degrees. I take care of sick patients and there families everyday! ...AND YES I consider myself lucky that God provided me with good health and the means to accomplish my goals!! BUT that makes me better than no one!!!
I worked as a server and bartender out of college to support myself and help pay for my education. Everybody has to start somewhere, right?!
It is a FACT that servers deserve more than $2.50/hr to provide a service.
The question is....who should pay it?! If we'd start by paying them a fair about of money for there work then people likely wouldn't resent tipping as much?! Why should the burden be put on the public?! They should make at least minimum wage too, right?! Then people could tip from the goodness of there heart and not out of guilt.
Lastly, I am in full support of tipping. I feel it's the right thing to do if you expect someone to SERVE you!
Just keep in mind...I served for 3-4 years and in that time I never brought home more than $50 on my paycheck every 2 weeks (and I worked full time). The only source of income they have is your tips! Do the right thing people...at least until our government changes the minimum wage of servers!

Frank T.

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I do NOT tip newspaper delivery people. I delivered newspapers in my teens and know the business model--the newspaper that costs you 50 cents is sold by a carrier/dealer who paid 30 cents. They made a profit per paper, why do they expect a Christmas gift in addition. My carrier once left a norm letter note saying how the get up early an drive in the dark to get my paper to me. I live in an apartment building. Why should merchants expect a holiday gift? I bill clients based on my hourly rate--I never expect them to voluntarily increase that rate.

I tip wait service people twenty percent and don't min giving ten bucks to a plumber, but newspaper deliveries? Please! I don't tip the postal letter carrier because it would be a federal crime for them to accept it. I'm not a scrooge, but I gave at the office. If you're in business, set a price and don't act like you're "just an employee."

Lloyd Crose

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I have the best Plain Dealer carrier ever. Because of the great service, I tip $5. every 3 month billing cycle.

Karen Ketchum

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While many customers do not realize that tipping groomers is the norm, when one doesn't tip we totally understand. However, a $2 tip is an insult. Most of the pets are either trying to bite us, poop on us or a just obnoxious and won't stand still. Grooming is hard physical work, rarely does a groomer have health insurance or any benefits. Best Friends Grooming Salon, Inverness, FL

Christine K.

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I have to absolutely agree with you 100% Karen! I was appalled and insulted by this! When grooming a dog, you bathe the entire body, clip or grind nails, check or express the anal glands and clean out and pull ear hair when necessary!! Not to mention all the things that you said, biting, not standing still, trying to sit while being groomed, pulling away when doing the nails. DOGS ARE STRONG, even the little ones!! It is an insult to tip only $2 per dog. I think the writer of this article needs to spend a day shadowing a dog groomer and she would change her tune. Really Insulting to the profession.

dom kik

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No one should ever expect a tip. All industries should pay the minimum wage as required by law. Why should people have to pay extra for eating out etc. If everyone who expects tips gets no one will have any money for anything else.

Leonard

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We just had extensive landscaping done here in OH. I did not tip the individuals working or the owner as we had agreed upon a set amount for the work done. I did offer water and soft drinks routinely as the days got hot. It is interesting in that if I paid by cash no sales tax charged, if
I paid by check sales tax was added to the bill. Which leads me to wonder if the owner is paying all the withholding taxes on his workers as well as paying sales tax on cash-based transactions.

Corylea

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I get my groceries delivered using an online service (because I have a bad back), and I never know how much is appropriate to tip the guys who drive the truck and carry the groceries from the truck to my kitchen. I have no idea how much the service pays these guys, and some of them are very good, and others are clumsy and careless.

Thoughts?

Frances Bohn

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I also have my groceries delivered and have asked whether to tip or not and was told by the company that no tip is required. ( Well, I remember when going to the regular grocery store and we used to tip $1 a bag for the high school kid who loaded our groceries in the car.)

I usually give $2 (which is what I can afford) and most delivery men will say that I don't have to tip but none have refused the money when offered. By the way, they rotate the drivers so I very seldom see the same one.

Frances Duhart

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My bill usually totals between 65.00 and 110.00 dollars and I always tip $10.00. When you compare the tip to the bill the percentage is admittedly low but from the response of the drivers I believe it is substantially more than most people give. This weekend I had a small delivery requiring only one trip to the door so I thought 10 dollars was generous but as the comment indicates I have no idea what is appropriate so I just try to be generous-it's a hard job and the drivers say they are not well paid but who knows?

Rick

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Article states it is about how much to tip. The author purportedly has been a staff "writer" for Angie's List since 2007. The article in my opinion was not written but just quoted what a very few have stated. Very limited information which has prompted many readers to attempt justification whether tipping is warranted or not. While not expecting an ocean full of information I am fully disappointed in the less than thimble full presented. Once again Angie's List is venturing into other areas rather than perfecting the quality of what we all have paid good money to receive, contractor information. Recommend leaving frail attempts such as this article to Yahoo.

jayme Camilleri

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I agree with Joan..nothing aggravates me more than a server asking me If I need change! A properly trained server will say "I will be right back with your change" to which you may reply if change is needed or not! And, what is with all of these young kids thinking that I should tip them for handing me a bag of food to go? There is even a tip jar at the drive thru fast food salad restaurant by my house! Service is taking my order, bringing a beverage, bringing food, refilling a beverage, checking that the food has been properly prepared, clearing plates, and running my payment. Not handing me a bag of food to go!

Astrid Berkson

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Tipping is serious. people that the government recognizes as receiving significant tips only have to be paid less than $3 an hour, so they really need the tips, and tip splitting was instituted by the restaurants to increase the number of people who could be paid $3 instead of $8. the result is that everyone makes less except the restaurant.

Margieb

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The stylists who do my hair once a month are very professional and very good at what they do. I always give them the same tip, which is 20 percent or more, depending on what's being done on that particular visit. I also give them occasional gifts when I return from traveling or for their birthdays or Christmas. I am not what you'd call rich, but they do good work and I want them to know how much they are appreciated.

orca17

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The places the get me are the ones that place tip jars at the counter. Typically, in these places all the employee does is take your money and hand you a bag. I don't consider that service, and I don't tip for it.

Kelly

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I really disagree with the tipping suggestion of $2 for pet grooming. Hairdressers get 15-20% and the people stand still. I have a small grooming shop and the groomers are paid well, but tips are still something they appreciate as it is very hard work. They work hard to make customers happy and I think their work is worth tipping by the owners who are happy. Most grooms run at least $35 - so 15% is about $5 for the lowest priced pet.

Lida Zams

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I use a mobile groomer who grooms my 2 cockapoos. He does a great job & the dogs love him. They get bathed, dried, a haircut & nails trimmed along with their teeth brushed. Because they have a thick coat, I get them groomed every 6-8 weeks. I bathe them in between myself. There's a lot of work in grooming a dog, so I don't agree in $2 per dog as a tip. I give my groomer $20 for both dogs. I also like that they're not away from home all day like they would be in a grooming salon.

Wendy Baker

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I don't get my dog groomed often, but when I do, I tip 20%. $2 for a member of the family? I agree with Kelly. Dogs don't always behave well (although I'm sure my Golden Retriever does!), and there is absolutely no risk that a human client is going to nip at you. That said, I make sure to tip my hairdresser 20% as well.

Matt Crookshank

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My wife has been a waitress for over 15 years. Her days are hard and were getting harder. Now that patrons charge 90% of their bills. The government taxes almost everything she makes in tips, and the company she works for requires her to tip the bartenders based on her beverage sales and expeditors on her total sales regardless if she was tipped at all. Thankfully, she has gone back to school, graduated and found a career. No more stories about the customers who are too cheap to tip. If you can not afford to lay down 20% after recieving good service, then stay at home.

Joe

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Good service warrants a good tip but I think that poor servers expect the same. Many servers would do.well to recognize that a poor tip is a reflection of poor service rather than a cheap customer. I am sure there are plenty of cheap customers but that is not always the case.

Ron

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So the fact you wife has to now pay taxes on previously undeclared income and the company she chose to work for makes her "share" her tips I must tip 20% or stay home? That's like me telling you to get a better job so your wife doesn't have to work. Your post make a tip which is a reward for good service a requirement and even sets the percentage. I do tip 20% or more for great service and less as low 10% for bad service. If there is a complaint it should be directed to restaurant owners who don't pay their employees a descent living forcing the consumer to leave high tip % for good or bad service.

JJ

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In other words, "I'm glad my wife found a new career, because tipping with a credit card limited her ability to perform tax fraud." Had she been paying taxes on her income like the rest of us, then it wouldn't have mattered that people paid with a credit card. Why should anyone sympathize that she can no longer commit a federal crime?

Carey

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Congrats to your wife for bettering her situation. It is, however, arrogant to state " If you can not afford to lay down 20% after recieving good service, then stay at home". It sounds like someone from the current "entitlement generation". "Good Service" (nothing exceptional) is 15%. "Excellent Service" (above and beyond) can be 18%-20%. And "recieving" is spelled "receiving".

Bob Williams

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"If you can not afford to lay down 20% after recieving [sic] good service, then stay at home."

You probably don't recognize how much you are hurting your own cause.

Michael D

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I think tipping should be for exceptional service. If a waitress or waiter can't figure out how to provide exceptional service, they shouldn't expect large tips. Tips are not required at any time.

LLG

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Matt.....really? Stay at home? What if everyone did that? Wouldn't be many wait staff.

I had been in the service industry for 20 years. While yes, I looked forward to tips, I always felt just happy to be employed. I think nowadays, tipping for everything is just getting insane. Yes, I still tip and generously but I personally wish tipping was taken out of the equation (except those states that include it as their wage).

Susan

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You are complaining that most patrons charge their bills so your wife can no longer cheat what she declares to the government for taxes? For shame!

Brenda Rose

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I have to pay taxes on my income, so I don't feel sorry for others who have to pay taxes on theirs. I think 15% is a sufficient tip. If I go out to dinner and our check total is $60 then I would tip $9. On average we spend approximately an hour at a restaurant, assuming the kitchen isn't slow. So, if you take $9 + the $3.98/hr minimum wage, then the waitress made $12.98/hour. I think that is fair. I have friends and family members who work hard and do not make that much per hour, and they still have to pay taxes. Lastly, if we all stayed home because we do not want to pay the arbitrary 20%, then the waitresses income would decrease significantly.

Tom Ripp

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First, your comment could do without the last sentence. While I typically tip 20% of the total bill, plus or minus, don't blame customers for the way the restaurant industry set up its employee pay and suggest they stay home. Second, anytime someone doesn't report cash tips, that person is guilty of income tax evasion. My entire income is reported and taxed (except for the standard deductions that everyone gets), it should be no different in the service sector.

Brownie

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I get so disgusted that we are even required to tip. I used to work retail and no one ever tipped me for the work I did. It should be up to the company they work for to pay the employees. Not only do I have to pay for the food I eat, I have to pay the employee to do their job. People are expected to tip based on the price of their meal. I can go to a restaurant that doesn't charge a lot for their food, get great service, and the server gets a small tip. I can go to a pricey restaurant, get crappy service, and they get a big tip, because someone came up with this backward way to tip people. Let the employers pay their employees appropriately and do away with tips in all areas of service!!!!

Kurt B

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"I can go to a restaurant that doesn't charge a lot for their food, get great service, and the server gets a small tip. I can go to a pricey restaurant, get crappy service, and they get a big tip..."
My rules regarding tipping:
1. I tip 20% for excellent service, and when the bill is so small for a meal (like at a diner) that 20% would be less than $3.00, I never tip less than $3.00 for excellent service.
2. If the service is less than excellent, I will decrease the tip accordingly -- to the point of extremely poor service, where I would tip a quarter or less (if you leave no tip, they will think that you forgot).
3. I also follow up poor service by asking to talk to the manager.
I also worked in retail, in various bookstores. We never expected tips, it's true, but servers generally work for tips and deserve that recognition when they earn it. To that extent, you are their employer.

Amanda

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Understandably - these are your beliefs.

However, while you were making retail, your minimum wage can be two to three times more than an employee also earning gratuities. When I used to serve in Wisconsin, the minimum wage for servers was $2.33 an hour. Granted, it's a person's choice to work in these positions. However, I was one that provided very good service and did very well in this field and my customers compensated me appropriately. But, when someone comes in stating that they don't feel that they should have to tip, then I believe that a service charge should be included then.

Mallory

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I totally agree. It is not fair that a waiter who works hard at a budget restaurant gets tipped less than a waiter that works at an expensive one - all because the food they are bringing to your table costs less. Equal work for equal pay does not seem to apply here. Tipping based on the percentage of the cost of your meal makes no sense, even when comparing tips from the same restaurant. For example, if table 1 orders a $10 plate, and table 2 orders a $20 plate, the waiter does the same work in bringing the dish out, and tending to the customer, but will be tipped less from table 1.

jessica

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while i agree, and i heartily do, the fact of the matter is that things don't work that way. and in the end, you're going to pay the same amount regardless. i would *love* it if the amount people are supposed to tip was just added into the price. i mean, i'd get paid more that way because not everybody tips or they tip unpredictably. and it would make things a lot easier. but that's just not the case...we have a tipping culture in this country and that's just the way it is. boycotting it is not screwing anybody except the person who is doing the job and not getting enough money for it. and if they don't do a good job, then you're within your right not to tip. :)

shannon

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if you get a custom airbrush tan from a tech would you tip like a hairdresser or manicurist? she's doing a service.

Mindy

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I own an airbrush tanning salon and I pay my girls well but it is nice to get tips. Most people tip from $3-5 some upwards of $10/15 but that's based on if they feel like we deserve it. We are open super later and try to accommodate every need of our customers and they like to show us appreciation. Where I own the salon I take all my tips and do something each month for my team as a thank you for their hard work. But if someone doesn't tip no hard feelings :) hope this helps

Dianne

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I do cleaning for a business, never got a Christmas gift or bonus, never got a tip. After 12 years of faithful service I asked for a slight raise, she said no that isn't enough and gave me more, then a week later she tried to fire me because someone else said they would do it cheaper. Wow, I really feel appreciated!

Diane

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You need to go where you are appreciated. After 12 years of going in and out of that house you are part of the family. I have had a great house keeper for the last 16 years and the one before her for 5 and they were wonderful. We are like family. I don't tip but I give them a holiday bonus, which equals a cleaning.

Clyde

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Tipping... it's not my responsiblity to subsidize a business owner's profits. Like in western Europe, employers pay professional wages to a professional staff so they don't have to panhandle tips for just doing their job well. However, I do tip well and I do so begrudgingly knowing the business owner isn't paying his staff appropriate wages and benifits.

Miranda

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I agree that tipping is a way that employers get me to help them pay their employees' wages and increase their profits. If the workers are paid a fair wage, it wouldn't be my responsibility. Include the tip in the price of the food the way it's done in other countries. I don't like to feel I have been foolish for tipping too much or been cheap for tipping too little. Dinner out should be pleasurable.

Fred

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Hey, Why not just tip everyone? Looking at comments here, it seems like everyone and their brother and sister should be tipped. I especially loved the owner of the restaurant who institued the 18% gratuity after the group of 50 didn't leave a tip. Hello! Why not increase the price by that amount then pay your workers?
Why do some types of workers deserve a tip while others do not? A tip is voluntary. If, as a server or other worker who believes they deserve a tip, you aren't getting enough, perhaps you should examine your work to see if people think you deserve one, or find a line of work which pays an acceptable salary w/o tips. No one forces you to work in a tip-dependant business. Most people that I know who do work in a tip-dependant business do make good money relative to their education and experience. But let us be realistic. If I am paying my Contractor $15K for work to my house, then why should I tip? If I had to tip every person people had listed here, I wouldn't buy/do as many things, then jobs go away if everyone follows my lead. There is not an endless supply of money in my household!

LD

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Tips are out of control. NO ONE should expect tips. You're paid to do your job and do it well. I hate the mandatory tips that are charged to you (like a group of 6+ at a restaurant) because you get lousy service anyway. Call me Scrooge, but I only tip my hairdresser - a bribe to ensure I get the best quality care. Those I rarely see, why should I pay them for doing the job they are being paid to do. If they can't do the job without a bribe, they need to look for another job. Angie's list - I'm disappointed in you trying to get us to tip more industries.

Polly

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I deliver newspapers anywhere from 250-300 per day. The service a customer requires varies greatly from the standard throw in the driveway to walk it to the porch, hang it on the doorknob, put inside storm door. Obviously anything over the throw in driveway consumes time over and above, as well as all the additional stops cut down on gas mileage, increase wear and tear on breaks and turns. My pay is the same regardless of required service. I also brave the elements, stray dogs, road construction, etc. Many of my customers tip out of thanks for receiving a dry paper, on time each day. Others tip for special service. The bottom line is I could not survive without the tips. Oh yes.....Gas prices have major effect on my profitability.

Andrew

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What a perverse philosophy. Every service worker is trying to get the drop on you, poor creature. Those worker who are customarily tipped for service are almost always paid a lower wage by their employer. The tips presumably provide a differential which taken jointly with wages provide a market rate of compensation for the employee. This is why many restaurants for one industry, don't pay an hourly minimum wage. You are not bribing those who wait on you, you miscreant. You are merely contributing to this person being paid a living wage, as disturbing as that concept might be. If there were no tipping you would expect the paid wages would need to be higher and so in turn the services provided would be commensurately more expensive for you to purchase. Even Scrooge repented his miserable miserly ways in the end. His creator knew better. And so I say to you, I knew Scrooge. Scrooge was a friend of mine. Honey, you're no Scrooge, you are a rock ribbed (and headed) Republican.

Tom

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You do understand that servers are paid less than $3/hour because they get tips, right? You can't stop tipping until servers start getting a real hourly wage.

Susan Terry-Bazer

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When I buy gas in NJ they often clean my windshield, a service that is long gone here on LI. I give the attendant a dollar for front window and two if he does both

Tes

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Where on jersey do they still wash windows at gas station I haven't seen that done in years

Angie

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Massage centers are not restaurants. You should tip by quality of the service, skills and knowledge. The therapists at the resorts or spas do not necessarily work harder and a 20% tip is added to the $100-120 per hour massage. Franchised massage centers offer $39-49 per hour session but do not charge extra for deep tissue or medical massage which is valued at $120/hr. I tip the therapist for an excellent one hour massage at $20 and less for average massage. I double that for 2 hours massage and add $5 per hour for deep tissue or medical massage. So a 2 hour massage at $78 plus $50 tip totals $128 is a very good deal. Same goes for the hair salon. I tip $5 for simple good hair cut no matter it's a $10 or $30 haircut that they charge. The best deal is to find a good therapist or hairdresser at an affordable place and tip more for excellent service.

Moscanoche

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Folks, if you have the money and you feel very appreciative of the service you receive, then a tip is a financial reward that compliments a "Thank you" and says "Job well done". You are not obligated in anyway to give a tip for any service you receive. If you tip bad service, then you are only reinforcing that persons bad behavior and not changing it. It is like giving a good performance review to an employee who is doing a bad job. Some people are afraid they will hurt that person's feelings or they feel guilty by not tipping. Listen, give what you feel in your heart is right and not what any article or books says is standard.

Tips for the wait person at a restaurant are a bit different. The laws have been set up in such a way that the business may pay less than minimum wage and the employee makes up the difference along with more by the tips they receive. I wish they would change that system. I think all people should be paid at least the minimum wage and then the tip is for service above and beyond bringing your food to the table.

I tip the Pizza driver. I tip the Sonic person who skates to the car. I make a very good living. I didn't always, but I still gave what I could afford when I felt the service was warranted. My creator has blessed me and I believe what comes around, goes around. Pass it forward and you will receive more in return.

Ken Yarbrough

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I was a Pizza Driver once. Tips are a good way to not only thank the driver for getting your food to you a a reasonable time. But that driver get more wear & tare on his or hers own vehicle. Plus the fuel cost today are outrageous. The pizza parlor doesn't pay for the drivers expenses on their vehicle. So if you see a delivery charge on your receipt that is the pizza parlor charging you for their expenses to run their business. Be appreciative to the driver who delivers your food. $2 to $10 is the norm.

Moscanoche

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Folks, if you have he money and you feel you very appreciative of the service you receive, then a tip is a financial reward that compliments a "Thank you" and says "Job well done". You are not obligated in anyway to give a tip for any service you receive. If you tip bad service, then you are only reinforcing that persons bad behavior and not changing it. It is like giving a performance review to an employee is doing a bad job. Some people are afraid they will hurt that person's feelings or they feel guilty by not tipping. Listen, give what you feel in your heart is right and not what any article or books says is standard. Tips for the wait person at a restaurant or a bit different. The laws have been set up in such a way that the business may pay less then minimum wage and the employee makes up the difference and more by the tips they receive. I don't like that system. I think all people should be paid at least the minimum wage and then the tip is for service above and beyond bringing your food to the table. I tip the Pizza driver. I tip the Sonic person who skates to the car. I make very a very good living. I didn't always, but I gave what I could when I felt the service was warranted. My creator has blessed me and I believe what comes around, goes around. Pass it forward.

Dee

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My mother owned a beauty salon for much of her working career. She labored in a middle class neighborhood and was aware of the economic state of many of her clients and priced her services accordingly. Some patrons were especially pleased with the services. Their financial means and personal preference determined whether or not a tip was in order. If you feel burdened by tipping, then simply don’t do it.

John B.

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I don't understand why no one mentioned roofers and foundation repair workers. These guys work under miserable conditions and are often not paid that well. When they do a good-to-excellent job, tip the crew a total of 1-2% of the contract price. For a 5-man crew on a $10K job, that's $20-40 each.

Theresa

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My husband worked at a hotel on Nantucket in 1978 and the hotel let guests know they were adding $3.oo per night per guest for housekeeping. Everyone else was making great money so why not housekeepers?

Tia

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It's worth thinking about tipping as help for the WORKING class. It's amazing to me how many people who have the money--I'm not talking to those of you who don't--and rant about parasitical "welfare moms" and the like, then fail to help out the working poor when they have a chance. Stop crying poor when you make more than 80% of the other people in America.

Anne

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People who can afford $200 for a freakin' haircut every 2 months should tip respecively. Go to wal mart for a haircut if you prefer tipping in the single digits!

Gloria

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Anne, I am appalled that you think that someone who just paid $200 to a hairdresser who probably owns her own chair meaning she owns her own business in that salon, should tip at all. When you get a $200 haircut what are you chipping for? You got th I am appalled that you think that someone who just paid $200 to a hairdresser who probably owns her own chair meaning she owns her own business in that salon, should tip at all. When you get a $200 haircut what are you tipping for? You got the cut and you paid a high price to the owner of the chair. What more do they want and why?

Joan

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I went to a local pizza place where you order at the counter. The cashier asked if I wanted my change. I said yes and asked why wouldn't I. She told me that most people put their change in the tip jar. I did so grudgingly but resented being nudged into it. I do contribute to tip jars when I am especially pleased with the service. But I want it to be MY decision. I have not gone back to that pizza place.

Joan

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My son-in-law owns a taxi cab company with more than 20 cabs on the road. His drivers take the cabs home at night and it is their option when they want to work. They pay a certain set rate for this privilege and in return, my son-in law maintains the cabs. He just had a State inspection which comes every year. The inspection is extremely rigid. (We joke that if you have a crease in your seat belts they will reject you!) Your permit is contingent on everything being in order and your cabs are safe to drive. It is very expensive to own a cab company what with paying for cars that are in accidents, or even totaled (insurance does not pay for cars that are wrecked or damaged, so the owners have to buy new ones with no compensation - insurance only covers the customers should they be injured.), inspections, plackcarding, meters, medallions, paint jobs, insurance, maintenance and so much more. The drives themselves work extremely hard and what with the price of gas, tolls, etc., they are lucky to make $50 to $60 a day. Many of them work 7 days a week and they work into the wee hours of the morning. Many will sleep in the cabs which situate themselves behind 20 other cabs, at airports, malls, bus and train stations, just waiting for a fair. Sometimes they have to sit in their cabs and they are unable to turn on their air conditioning in 90-100 degree weather or turn on their heaters during freezing cold weather, because or the cost of fuel to run the cabs while they sit and wait. They keep the fairs, but the cost of the trips sometimes exceeds the charge to the customer.

What this is all about, is that sooooo many cab drives depend so much on people tipping them. Of course, if they are rude to their customers, then they deserve nothing, but if they try hard to rush you to the airport, or help carry heavy luggage or bundles; if they try to avoid heavy traffic or get stuck in it through no fault of their own, they should be rewarded. I have known so many cab drivers. So many of them are truly hard working individuals. Many of them have recently got their green cards or are newly granted citizenships, as they are from other countries. So many of them are educated or over qualified (even if they have lived in the states all of their lives, they may be obligated to work a 2nd job - and many of these drives new to this country have college degrees or even Master and PHD degrees). They need employment and they take these jobs to support their families. Their income is minimum and they deserve whatever their customer gives them. (I say, put the shoe on the other foot. How would I want someone to treat me if the situation was reversed?)

Peter Pullicino

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I feel that the companies that employ these poor drivers should have to pay them minimum wage due to what they charge for their rates. Cab drivers shouldn't have to work primarily for tips.

Mary G.

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Thank you, Joan, for this important information you shared about cab drivers and their expenses and their struggle to make a decent wage. I had no idea and I really appreciate your share.

Orloff

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I tip the postal delivery person and the paper delivery person every Christmas

Megan

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The Ohio minimum wage for tipped employees is $3.70 per hour, higher then the federal minimum wage for tipped employees of $2.13 per hour. The Ohio tipped wage applies to employees like waitresses, waiters, bartenders, valets, and other service employees who earn more then $30 in tips a month.

Including tips and cash wages, all tipped employees must still earn at least the Ohio Minimum Wage of $7.40 per hour. If a Ohio employee does not earn at least $7.40 including tips in any given hour of work, their employer must make up the difference in cash.

Woody

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Why should you tip anyone, why should you pay the owners help, so the owner of the business can make more profit....suckers!

kathy

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I am a Clinical Social Worker and work with people everyday. I try to help them improve their life so the quality is the best they can do! I went to school and had to get a master's degree, I have to pay to have a license every year and I make less than 40,000. No one tips me, and I don't want to be tipped, but tipping my hairdresser so she can make double what I make and not pay taxes on half of it is an insult. I can barely affored to take vacations and if I have to tip every driver, housekeeper, waitperson and whatever else I should just stay home and get a second job that gets paid in tips! I tip if the person providing a service goes above and beyond. But if they just do the minimum requirements of the job they get paid to do, then they get paid to do it by the employer.

live off tips

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I sympathize with frustration patrons sometimes experience with how much to tip and which industries or professions subsist off of them. I'm a Dealer in LV, and 80% of our pay is tips, and you will never ever be able to convince the Casino's to pay any of their staff what their work is worth, because like many of the posters on this thread have said, "why should I? Get a better job." Interestingly enough, getting a better job means that service now has a vacancy, if everyone does that, you the patron no longer have the service. Likewise, building the price of a tip into the final bill, and patrons complain about how high priced things are. Another interesting fact, I pay taxes on all my tips. Finally, the commentary about entitlement issues with service providers from patrons is interesting, given how the patron feels that the service personal should put up with whatever sense of entitlement the patron sullies the air with. Over all, I agree with tips = to quality of service, but the self centered, miserly, and selfish commentary I have read so far leads me to the conclusion that most of you simply aren't worth it.

Nan

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I am retired after 35 years. I don't tip persons who make more than I did at the peak of my earnings. I was shocked while still working to find out that the person who cut my hair made over four times my salary. Persons earning low salary who provide me a service get a 20 - 30 % tip. I always leave a generous tip to maid service.

Kimberly

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Wow, try living in Vegas where you can't go out without a twenty in ones.
I did not like this article and thought the amounts of “paid by the hour” professionals was out of bounds. One point I do want to make is hotel housekeeping. Please leave a buck or two daily. Some save it until they check out and there may be different people working.

Susan Anderson

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If someone is staying at a casino or hotel for several days, they definitely should tip every day, partly because there may be a different person working when you leave, but also for your own best interest. If you tip your maid every day and he/she knows it, who do you think is going to get the most little freebies, the best service? If you wait until the end, you forego this advantage.

Erin

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I saw house cleaners lists, but no mention of housekeepers at hotels. My grandmother cleaned hotel rooms to make ends meet and I can tell you it's not pleasant work- often downright nasty- and it doesn't pay well at all. We usually can only afford to leave $5 per night (or more if we've been really messy or required extra work), but try to leave it every morning as you may be there a week but have several different people cleaning your room. Leave it in a conspicuous place with a note saying "Housekeeping Tip, Thank you!" Even a couple bucks is appreciated- there's a good chance some struggling single mom can treat her kid to a happy meal and have an easier night. My grandmother also said the value of just being acknowledged and appreciated was incalcuable.

Ann Pearson

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I am tired of tipping I live on social security. Hair dressers expect a tip but are paid well for their service.

Mary

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I will only tip according to how good the service was. If they did not earn it then I don't give it! It is a recognition for good service and hard work. Not for just doing your job. We have become a spoiled and overly entitled country. 
Hard work ethics are hard to find and I work hard for my money. So why should I pay more for something than what it actually cost if it has not been earned?! I say no! 
We should reward good hard work according to the degree of how good their service was and only pay if we can. We shouldn't pay for more than we can afford. We have to be responsible to ourselves so that we can be responciable to others. This lack of responsibility is in part why so many people are in trouble in so many ways. Financially, socially and ect. Tipping is not a right. It is a privilege and a sign of gratitude. It should not be abused as such and the abuse needs to stop!

Karen

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At a hotel I tip at least $1 per day. If there is more than 1 person in the room, I may tip $2 per night. I consider it karma payments; I've never left a phone or computer cord in a hotel room in 12 years of traveling. Housekeepers make very little money.

Joan

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I think tipping has gotten out of hand. Why should tip the person cutting my hair when I pay her $55 directly. The person who cleans my small house charges me $60 for 2 hrs. work. I pay my gardner on a monthly basis to cut the lawn once a week. That is all he does. He charges me for any additional work that he does. I do not tip these people because I pay them to do their job. I tip at restaurants and car washes. I do remember the others at holiday time and that is where it ends. (I agree with Sean)

Mary

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A massage therapist didn't go to medical school and should not expect physician pay. They charge plenty and as serious health professionals should not be tipped. For service jobs where people rely on tips, I have taken a cue from my brother and grown to be generous. I've learned that I never miss money I've given away and that it feels good to reward others for their work. Generosity tends to be repaid in turn.

KK

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I used to work at a department store. Let me tell you, I hustled for my customers. Ran back & forth to the stockroom. Climbed ladders to get down heavy comforters. Called multiple stores to track down an item that we did not have in stock. I made a little more than minimum wage but not much. Did I get tipped once? I think you can guess.

Regarding tipping the owner of a salon: My stylist recently left his salon and opened his own shop. I knew the rule about not having to tip the shop owner, and I was kind of stoked about it. My stylist's wife is the receptionist/cashier. When I went to pay, she asked how much I would like to cash out on my credit card for a tip. I said $5 for the shampoo girl. She said, well what about J? I was flabbergasted. I managed to stammer that I didn't really think a tip was due. Well - after I left, I googled it, and lo and behold I checked three websites and they all said that was the OLD rule, and the NEW rule is that you do tip the owner. I felt a little bad about that, and I did go back and tip him. But it really left a bad taste in my mouth that the wife basically begged me for a tip. I'm reconsidering whether I want to go back and deal with the greedy woman anymore.

Seamstress15

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I find it interesting that some of you tip your mail deliverer. When I try to tip mine, they leave it with a note that it is illegal to tip them.
I am glad to have the info. on movers because I plan to move in a short time.

kirsten

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Every year our mailman leaves a self addressed envelope for us to mail him a tip!
I think this is outrageous!! They are doing the job they are being paid to do. Plus I think this is illegal.
Government workers get great retirement benefits and should be happy they have a job.

John

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I agree with Sean, I am a contractor and pay a decent wage. Why don't all employers just pay a good wage and forget the tipping!

Jerry

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If you want a tip from me, then you had better perform beyond your expected job duties. I don't believe in tipping someone for doing their job. It is also not my fault that they agreed to work for low wage. When I was on that end of the stick, I worked really hard, got more education at night to make myself more valuable to my current and furture employers. I never expected or received a tip for showing up to work. By the way, when I do find someone performing way beyound expectation, I will give a generous tip. Up to 100% of the bill.

Greg

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How much do most people tip cab drivers? I usually tip 15% plus $1 per bag if I'm traveling.

Vicki

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Giving a mail carrier ANY tip or gift is illegal. Please find out BEFORE you tip if you're breaking the law.

Beth

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I tip our mail carrier during the holidays. They are allowed to accept $20 worth. I don't think they can accept money but can receive gift cards, which I give and am thanked for. I also tip the new paper carrier. These are two people I depend on every day so I think they deserve recognition for hard work.

Michelle

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I will leave my mail carrier an apple, cookies, bottle of cold water (if I know he's not too far away), etc. If I have any pkgs he brings the mail with him onto my porch. My new carrier does not do this, he only brings the pkg.

Suze

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Not illegal to gift mail carriers on special occasions, such as Christmas, but the gift may not be worth more than 20$. I put out a bottle of cold water on heat advisory days and leave heat up hand warmers on below zero days for my mail carrier, just to let them know that I appreciate their work.

patricia

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I'm tired of the expectations for tipping - some people looking for tips are creepy. You feel as if they'll do a poor job unless you guarantee a tip. It feels like you have to pay a bribe to get someone to do a good job. I look for companies who say no tipping. Tips for wait people and stylists - OK. It's a tradition. Others should just be more straight forward and charge more if they want more.

Susan

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How much tip should be left for people cleaning hotel/motel rooms?

Megan

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Even as a child, I was astonished that bellhops get tipped per bag (usually using a wheeled carrier to get the bags from the lobby to the room) while most hotel guests forget the maids entirely. I worked as a hotel maid for one day and found it so exhausting and thankless that I quit. Luckily I had another job possibility.

Deborah

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Tipping is over the top. No one tips me for doing my job! Give me a break!

sheena

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I would just like to say as a hairdresser, tips are the majority of my income, I don't not make my own prices, everything is set in stone for me, for the amount of time I put it, I barley make over minimum wage, but I love what I do, and can't imagine having another job. If don't get my tips, I might not keep the roof over my head, just keep that in mind next time you head to a salon.

Isabel

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Tipping has gone to the extreme. I tip according to the service I received. It seems you need to tip for everything anymore, there's tip jars everywhere including some restrooms!! that's ridiculous,either the employers need to pay their employees a wage or the employees need to find a position that pays what they need. I'm sorry if that's harsh, I'm a business owner and no one has ever tipped me for providing excellent service, and small business owners usually don't draw a paycheck because we worry about employees paychecks, bills, etc first.

Kevin

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I had always been told TIP stands for "To Insure Promptness" Therefore if you are receiving a service in a timely and well mannered fashion then it may be appropriate. By no means is it to be determined by proffession only by above and beyond service.

betsy

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I may be older than dirt, but I still subscribe to the opinion that it is inappropriate to tip the owner of a business. The only folks I tip now are service people at restaurants, hair stylists, and taxi drivers. I give the sweet lady who helps me with weeding my gardens a gift at the end of the season, my postal worker a gift at Christmas (postal workers are not allowed to accept cash or checks). It seems ridiculous to tip a company for a service that we've been given an estimate for and then paid overages and so forth. Even if I only tipped employees involved in a remodeling project, that could add up to a couple of hundred dollars. And if the company is so small that the owners of it do all the work then I'm back to my tipping the owner again, as the owners fee for service is not shared with management. If the salon is not making money then the owner has the option of raising prices to compensate - the employees do not.

Personally, I'd like to see the grocery store give me a tip for bagging my own groceries and pushing them out to the car, loading them in, then returning the cart to the front of the store. And the town might want to consider tipping me for separating my trash into four separate bins, driving it to the transfer station then stopping at three different locations to dispose of it.

And my kids own me 18+ years' worth of tips for raising them...

Bob

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I donot tip my barber. I feel he charges a fair price and if he needs more he shoud increase the price of a haircut.

A Dental Hygienist

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In response to the question about tipping the Dental Hygienist...there's really no need to tip. The majority of hygienists are paid well above minimun wage. However, if you have been seeing you hygienist for years and appreciate their quality of service, do what you feel comfortable with. I personally feel uncomfortable accepting a tip from pts. The only money/tip I've ever accepted was as a gift when I was pregnant with my son and I used the money to buy things for him.

Seriously

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If a salon charges me $225 for an hour of the stylist's time, the salon needs to pay the stylist, and let me tip if the service is excellent. Why do we put up with this?

But I wait around on pickup day for tip the trash, recycling, yard waste crews, $10 per person. They work hard, never see their 'customers' and truly appreciate it.

Bill

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Most people don't have a clue, I used to drive professionally .I delivered pizzas and by the way I would rather drive to a apartment than a 500k house, because working class people tip better. I had a customer that would order a sub for $6.41 ,his tip was 59 cents,yes 59 cents I was tempted many times to tell him if he could only afford that maybe he needs it more than I did. Also I drove a airport shuttle people if I would drive you and your wife for a hour, go in your house take all your heavy luggage load it in my van <as many as 5 bags> take you to your destination and I get 2 or 3 bucks, how insulting. Also I would agree not all people are perfect, I had the best waitress at Denny's and the worst at Disneyworld. 20 dollar meal vs a 150 dollar meal, if me and my wife go out to eat and we spend $6 if the wait staff is awsome I will leave a $3 tip, why because I know there are many cheapskates out there, just because they didn't have the resources to go to a college why punish them.. Sean I hope you get cold pizza, you just don't have a clue

Mary

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don't forget the horse carriage drivers. 15-20% is greatly appriciated. We share with our co-workers (apples, treats, etc!!!)

Mary

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Since I frequently eat alone at restaurants, I try to dine at off hours, but, knowing I take a table at which the wait person could be serving and getting tips from at least two, I add at least a dollar or two to whatever would be the normal tip.

Jack

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I was glad to see the guidelines on tipping movers, because I never know whether I'm giving them enough. The two things that bother me are the argument that, in New York the normal tip for wait staff should be 20% and that the old 15 rule of thumb had gone away due to inflation. Inflation caused the restaurant prices to go up so there was no reason for the percentage to increase too! I start at 15% and go up to 20% only for extra good service. I tip bar tenders for every couple of drinks, not for every drink. It's beyond me why fixing a drink at a bar that cost $5 should warrant a $1 tip when it only took about 20 seconds of the bartender's time. My one question is what to tip people who deliver food. I usually do 1 or 2 dollars, regardless of the amount of the bill (higher if the weather is bad) and I haven't gotten any dirty looks.

Cassie

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I find it RIDICULOUS that a server is not posted. In most states they make 2.13 a hour and pay taxes as if they were paid minimum wage. Also as a hair stylist tip as you wish if they are booth rent and have the luxury of determining their own prices but keep in mind as ALL businesses they have to pay all the behind the scene expenses too. Booth rent is expensive. I as most didn't realize that your supposed to tip movers but I am surely glad I did not this last year... stuff was thrown in boxes, broken and scratched!

Debbie

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The trash guys told us that if we bring the cans to the bottom of the driveway, they will take some of the bigger stuff. Never happened. Stopped the tips.

Mail carrier leaves holiday card with self-addressed envelope in the mailbox every holiday season. Found out it is illegal for mail carriers to do this. Stopped tipping.

School bus driver on one of my children's busses lied about my child being bullied (video proved it). Stopped tipping.

House cleaner gives me a holiday gift! Hugs, gift, tip and everlasting gratefulness for her trust, honesty and work ethic. She is part of our family.

Different bus driver notified at the last minute that no one will be home for my son as I am on my way to the hospital. Driver holds bus at school until I can tell him where to drop off my son. Hugs, tip and letters of commendation every where I can write them.

Do your job. Do it well. What's meant to be will be.

Linda

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He or She can find another Job??? You must not have been looking for a job lately.

Debbie

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Okay, when I taught in the inner-city, I received no tips. I worked over-time, on own time, during my free time, when I was recognized in a store or on the street. Most parents of my students couldn't afford the clothes or supplies their children needed for school.

So let me get this straight... I should have quit teaching those kids from poor families because their folks couldn't afford to "tip" me at holiday time and at the end of the year, and those parents should certainly not have sent their kids to school since the parents could not afford to properly "tip" the teacher! I think I have that straight now.

What a wacky, mixed up bunch of people! Are you really arguing, advocating, and defending TIPS??? Be thankful for a job; take the money from all of the tips and give it to a worthy charity that gratefully accepts donations without arrogance or a sense of entitlement.

Anne

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I go to a no-tipping hair salon and LOVE not having to worry about the whole thing. They are in Cleveland and Chicago. I tip the newspaper delivery people every two months when we get billed from the company, and get great service. I have been surprised to learn how many salon owners accept tips...

wankaye

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I also tip the postman, and offer him water during the summer months

Laura

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We tip and give more based on exceptional service. Almost all the coffee shops in Mass have tip containters for the Barista; even Dunkin Donuts. We give our regular Mail Carrier a small gift around the holidays. And yes, you should tip the Flower Delivery person if they do a good job...that's really hard and difficult work. Tipping shows appreciation for the work done for you and they will remember that in future meetings.

Kevin

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I own my own service company and do not expect a tip. When I am done and hand the bill to my customer the amount I expect is all I expect no more or less. I get embarassed when someone tries to give me a tip. If they handed me a bottle of Scotch or a couple of brownies I would except and thank them for doing that.

Joe

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Thanks for verification regarding what to tip a masseus and salon person - I'm never sure what to tip. An annual generous tip to the paper person delivering your newspaper is certainly appropriate - if you tip 15% or 20% to a server who spends 1 hour at your table, a paper person who comes to your door at the crack of dawn 365 days a year certainly deserves a generous thank you in the form of a tip. As far as other professions go, I think a general rule of thumb is to tip anyone that goes above and beyond with their services.

Tony Baloney

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Believe it or not, snow sports instructors rely heavily on tips. The resort they work at pays them little compared to what you're paying to ski. A $5 to $10 tips on a one-hour lesson makes their day. Thanks.

Greg

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How much do most people tip cab drivers? I usually tip 15% plus $1 per bag if I'm traveling.

Blake

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You should tip restaurant workers and Pizza delivery drivers. Both make less than minimum wage these days. Pizza drivers in particular suffer because they have to use their own cars, pay for their own maintenance, and their own insurance. The common practice by employers in Alabama is to cut the drivers pay back to $4.00 an hour, then these same employers make drivers claim so many dollars in tips, even if they don't make that amount. Tip your driver

Kathy

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My hairdresser has told me she makes over $100,000/year. Much of that is not reported as taxable income. I do wonder when this will change - she makes more than many well-educated professionals. Just doesn't make sense!!

Margo G

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I am appalled at some of these snide comments. My father always taught me: If you can afford [to eat out for example] you can afford to tip. And if you can't, then don't [go out]. Service personnel depend on gratuities and their employers pay them with this in mind. Some of you cheapskates and complainers need to get a grip. I often tell the kids at drive-up windows to put their tip jars outside the window. At a bar I used to frequent, the bartender had a sign that said Tipping is not a town in China Loved it.

cj Gacioch

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I agree that tipping has gotten out of hand. I recently discussed this with a waitress at Olive Garden. Their tip is figured into the price of the meals they serve. In that case, they have to pay taxes whether they get a tip or not. I don't know how many places do this, so it would behoove us to ask. I always figured that if I gave cash, they didn't have to claim it! If you add the tip to your debit card, they have to pay taxes on it also. I am retired now and don't have a lot of disposable income so I tip 15% on meals and that's it. Tipping jars are something I walk away When a plumber makes $50 to drive in your driveway, I don't consider he needs a tip!!! If I made that kind of money, I wouldn't need a plumber!!!!!

chelse w

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what about the more obvious providers your supposed to tip yet no one knows how much? delivery drivers should be getting at least 10% waitresses 15-20% what about bar tenders and tattoo artists?

Deniece C

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I don't think a tip should be REQUIRED like some restaurants. Most restaurants will add in a tip for parties of a certain size ususally 6 or more. Even if you split the bill. I NEVER add extra tip to that and I tell them why, "I would've given a bigger tip but being FORCED to do something that isn't mandatory ticks me off!" Sometimes when people know they are getting a tip either way, they focus their efforts on other tables that might not tip. I agree with everyone who talks about the people you are tipping making more than the person tipping. It should not be required. My brother works at Cozy's and he never expects a tip however one Christmas three different people tipped him, one gave him $75.00! He was so appreciative but they made sure to give it to him because they didn't think the other workers deserved it. Of course my brother didn't open any envelopes until after he was home and never bragged about it to the other workers.

Sandy A

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It made sense to tip 15-20% on hair services when you could get a cut and style for under $50. The styling was always built into the price of the cut or color. But I now go to a place where the color or cut is priced separately from the style (even if the same person does both) and the total bill before tips is $200. I know most non-owner stylists rent their chairs, but this is ridiculous--the price alone is painful, and the stylist works no harder than at the $50 salon. There are even surcharges for using a curling iron or other styling tools, and for a conditioner. To expect me to tack an extra $30-40 on to a $200 bill (especially when I also have to tip the shampoo girl and the assistant separately) is truly painful. And when a stylist has someone in mid-styling to take over so she can work on another client, it really gets ridiculous. I tip $20 on a $200 service because I know that the personnel don't work any harder or have higher expenses than at an all-in-one salon. If a salon has to charge that much, they ought to be paying (whether commission or wage) their professional personnel accordingly. And I'm sorry, a special service priced at nearly $400 (such as a keratin treatment, without cut or color) does NOT warrant a $60-80 tip! The stylist works no harder or longer than when she does a color & cut--the high price reflects the high cost to the salon of the products used, and I shouldn't have to tip on that. Nobody should have to tip a service person based on their employer's overhead! At the nail salon, the owner does my nails. I tip her 10% plus a holiday gift. As for take-out foodservice, when it comes to counter people like baristas and ice cream scoopers, I leave them the change from my bill IF there's a tip jar. (Baristas a bit more, especially at quality cafes where they are artisans). But for sit-down counter service, the usual 15%. (20% at a white-tablecloth restaurant, or at a cheaper place for really good service). Remember, lousy or cold food is not the server's fault--but the wrong order IS. Servers are supposed to check the plate to make sure it matches the ticket before bringing it to the table. If the kitchen screwed up, she should have caught it first. I much prefer the European system, where 18% is added into the bill automatically--in which case I leave the small change as well. But service prices should ideally be increased to include the employee's wage--and the servers paid a decent wage at that. Then tipping would revert to what it used to be--a gratuity for going the extra mile. I blame the explosion of tip jars on the employers cheaping out on their employees--if you can't afford the reasonable expenses of running a business, and charge accordingly, you shouldn't be running one.

Dave

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Our Tucson Daily Star newspaper carrier leaves an Xmas card with the paper with his/her address. We send them a check for about one month's cost.

Maria

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Interestingly, tipping is not nearly so common in the few European countries I have been in. I read an article that suggested the pervasive tipping in the US is a somewhat unique thing.

Jean

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For some services, it depends on whether the person doing the service owns the business. After getting my hair cut by the owner at a local hair salon, I was presented with the bill. Her price had almost doubled, from $75. to $125. I did not leave a tip.

Azima

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My son, who also has a full-time salaried job, will occasionally tend bar at functions on the weekends for extra cash. At the last wedding with an open bar, not a single guest tipped him. He isn't paid much for these gigs and expects tips to make it worth his while to work on the weekends.

Susie

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I never tip people who are professionals on salary, e.g. medical personnel, plumbers, proofreaders, the firestone guys, and such.
I do tip people who provide me a regular service - hairdresser, catsitter, gardener, and daily hotel maids. It's partly to maintain a good relationship with people who help me. I tip bartenders, taxi drivers, porters at the airport. I don't tip the mcdonalds guy. I do tip the barrista but I think I'll stop.
I had No Idea I was supposed to tip movers. After paying $4000 for a move "all included" with a major company, there's no way I'd add an additional $20-$50 for each of the at least 8 men who helped one side or the other. I did offer the guy who came to remove my boxes, and he refused it.
I still don't get how to tip in a hairdresser/nail salon, etc. Often I am given the bill totalled without each person listed. Sometimes three different people work on hair and two on nails. I pay a flat 15%, if the job was good I go back, if it wasn't, I don't.

rather not say

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I like to tip homeless people because I like to give the benefit of the doubt and believe that they don't want to be homeless and ignored or treated like dirt. Many "Christian" people make like that makes me a fool.

Jane

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Here in NY, Hair stylists, and wait staff are taxed on 15% of their services. Even if a tip has not been left. Generally most stylists don't make minimum wage, the tips are supposed to make up for that. So It will come out of our pockets if a tip isn't left of at least 15%.

Joyce

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Regarding restaurant bills, you should tip on the amount before taxes, not on the total bill. Depending on where you live, it can make a big difference. That said, I cut the tip down for lousy service. I once had a waitress follow me out to the street and ask why I hadn't left a better tip. I explained why and she angrily stomped off.

Alaskan Gal

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Tipping started as a way to help waitstaff that were working for free in the depression. A restaurant would let servers "work" for tips. Tips were the only money they were receiving for their efforts. Things got better; people started getting paid but tipping was now part of the culture. Tipping (in restaurants) has only been around about 100 years. They should go back to including it into the cost of doing business but that's not how it is. Even the IRS figures that you make a certain percentage of your sales and looks for it when you claim your tips. If you fall below that mark look for the audit.
I must say that after reading the article I had never considered tipping certain people before. Although, when I take a cab and they have "clicked the meter" I make of point of mentioning it and NOT tipping when I get out.

Sean

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Tipping is over the top. If a person does not make minimum wage and is supplementing wages with tips (like a waitress/waiter) then tip them. Everyone else no tip. If they can't survive on what they make then perhaps they need to look for a new job. I have a hard enough time surviving on my check let alone supplementing everyone elses.

Jody

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I think that a lot of people don't understand how frustrating is to be a server sometimes. We take the brunt of everyone's problems and represent the restaurant in more ways than one. I have been a server for over 20 years and have come to the conclusion that the people that demand the most give the least. As for 18% being added onto a bill, that is to protect the server. Recently, our staff had to cater a rehearsal dinner and there was no tip left for over 50 people. This is very frustrating, so our owner implemented an automatic 18% onto reservations to protect us. He knew that we did our job and that it wasn't fair to us that no one seemed to think about us doing our jobs. It is our culture and our government that dictates tipping in a restaurant. If you can't afford a tip, don't go to a sit down restaurant. I know I work very hard to make sure that everyone leaves the restaurant happy, but sometimes people don't care if the server has been taken care of.

Neil

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Jody No one that is at a rehearsal dinner should be expected to tip the wait staff. The person responsible for the tip is the bride & groom or whoever threw the rehearsal dinner for them. I have no idea of the cost of anything in the meal. Of any rehearsal dinner that I have had the privilege of attending. I was either given a choice of what I wanted (usually given a choice of a beef / chicken or fish dinner. Lately a vegetarian selection is also included) prior to the day of the dinner or as everyone is seated for the dinner. As for a regular dinner out at a restaurant. 20% is my baseline. But, since I round up. I usually leave in excess of 20%. For example if the bill is $47.50 I'll leave a $10 tip. Pizza delivery guy about $5. Depending on how the change works out. Hairstylist $5. Yesterday I went to Great Clips. Sign outside said $15 haircuts so I gave her a $20. I don't take cabs. Moved myself into my house. So I pretty much have never tipped anyone else. Although I guess The beer and BBQ I gave my friends & family for helping move constitutes a tip. Plus I always offer cold drinks etc to any one who is doing work in my house. But I consider that having good manners than being a tip.

Jennifer H

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When we moved recently, we were quoted by several companies that it would take 8-10 hours plus an hour minimum travel time. Even the company used quoted us that, and the team we had got it done in 6. They seriously hustled, and didn't break a thing. They each got $40 because they went above and beyond. I get very frustrated when tips are expected though. Even at a salon, you're expected to tip, but what if you get home and you hate the job? You can never get that tip back, and you just overpaid for a crappy cut/color. I tipped a stylist cash once for correcting a mistake, and then found out she charged me for a full re-color. Big mistake.

I think tipping, if at all, should reflect the quality of service you get. My husband still tips for terrible restaurant service. If they can't be bothered to do their jobs, why should we pay them MORE? There is no incentive to do your job well anymore.

Mike

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What about volunteer Fire Fighters? They do the job for free, do you tip them? What is their worth?

Jack the Tipper

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Nice thread. I'm with those who tip for service, not for breathing. I'm a good tipper in restaurants and for my barber, give a Christmas tip to people like the yard guy and house cleaner BECAUSE I WANT TO, not because I' "supposed to."The presence of a Tip Jar guarantees no tip. I walk out of restaurants that add a tip to the bill. It's simple theft to add 18 or 20% to the listed price -- and I want the option of not tipping for lousy service.

Eric P

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The problem I see with tipping is that it is so similar to bribing - I won't use services of those who won't perform a decent service unless they get good tips, or who just expect a tip for so-so service. It all makes such little sense, and because the gullible public is so willing to play along with it, employers are able to pay their employees substandard wages. People should be paid a fair wage and give the best service they're capable of and not expect people to be constantly digging into their wallets for more.

Ray P

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I am disappointed in the one area that has always puzzled me - count food services like Starbucks. Their prices are so high that I am a little surprised to see a tip cup. Back in the 60's and 70's (Yes I am dating myself), you did see tip cups at Ice Cream Stands, coffee bars - unless there was a wait person.

That said - is it really expected and appropriate at places like Starbucks, Dairy Queen, etc.?

daryl

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a tip is earned, not assumed. i tip accordingly.

TomR

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Stop tipping. If someone isn't making a sufficient wage, then he/she can find another job or push for a raise. Tipping has become a fancy name for panhandling.

Ken

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This was interesting. What happened to the restaurant industry in your discussion?

Nancy Kickertz

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I do tip hotel maids-usually $5/day-and since the maids can change from day to day, I tip daily instead of at the beginning or end of a stay.

Cynthia Sharp

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Wish everyone had that attitude of tipping. It almost seems as if it is "out of sight/out of mind"

TomR

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Tipping is way out of control. People now EXPECT a tip for doing their job. Include the tip in the person's wage and get those darn ugly homemade "TIP" cans off the counter.

Greta

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I agree - tipping should be NO LONGER! If employers paid their employees more, we would not be required to supplement their wages with tips. It is a RIDICULOUS practice and should be done away with.

Alex

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As a massage therapist, I agree with Mischa. When I'm self-employed, I never expect a tip; but when I'm working on a commission basis--regardless of the environment--a tip is very much appreciated. I also understand the common complaint that tipping is another tax on the consumer. It's outrageous that wait staff are paid a lower minimum wage than other workers because of the expectation of tips, for instance. Our system is very much in need of reform. I don't think that simply not tipping will fix the underlying problems, though. I wouldn't be able to pay my rent! ;)

Dawn Bailye

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I would like to express my opinion on Salon Owners receiving a tip for services they provide to the client. I disagree with not tipping the owner of a salon. Many salons are not making much above what it takes to operate the salon and some are barely keeping the doors open. These salons provide employment to the working force of America. It is a complicated and misunderstood industry. Not all salons are a commission base commerce. Some are a mix of rental and commission, and others are a co-op rental base amongst stylists, which means everyone in the salon including the owner is working to pay their own personal bills, although someone must take the responsibility of being the "Salon Owner". We adjust our pricing taking into account will we hopefully receive a tip from the client. If every client did not tip us, we would need to increase our pricing. When you do not offer a tip to a salon owner, you are lowering the wages they earn and they may be supplementing what income they receive from their stylist's to keep salon doors’ open. A service is a service no matter who is performing the service and should be tipped accordingly. Just because you own a business it does not mean you are making a profit. However, it does mean you are providing jobs to individual's in a very poor economic environment instead of them having to rely on the government welfare fund.

Laura

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Don't forget to tip your bartenders! Most people know that a tip of 15 - 20% is customary for a waiter, but few realize that the same is true for a bartender. Buying a $4.75 drink and leaving the quarter is *not* proper tipping!

larjmarj

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Would someone explain on what basis we determine who to tip? I don't get it. IF I make a lot less than the guy who pushes my wheelchair at an airport, do I tip anyway? And do I tip if my chair has been careened through traffic with me hanging on for dear life? Or do I not fly as suggested by some " If you can't afford a tip, you shouldn't be flying) (despite my frequent flyer miles i have carefully saved through my credit charges for auto pay on household expenses which I have scrupulously paid every month)? Do I tip a therapist who makes so little from social services that she'd make more working as a waitperson? Do I tip the teacher at a private grade school who makes only 24k a YEAR and has to supplement her income by working at McDonalds--yet has to come in to disability conferences, testing, pays for continuing education, etc. etc.
Excuse me for this rant, but I truly don't see where the 10 Commandments for who to tip are!

Eve

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When I'm paying $70+/hour for a plumber, I see no reason to tip additionally .. unless they really did something above and beyond the job itself. I also think it's overkill to tip a self-employed service provider like a massage therapist who works by themselves, because they're not splitting the fee like in a large facility, although a holiday gift is a nice idea.

Michael

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When I waited tables at a restaurant, I became so frustrated with the poor tips people left, even after they'd praise me for doing a great job. I would have preferred a proper wage to below minimum with tips. Tipping is so unreliable, especially if the restaurant does not automatically add gratuities to large parties. However, the experience motivated me to tip wait staff more, as long as they do a good job.

Kim

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What about the carpet cleaners? Also, we recently had a huge willow tree taken out. The four men who did the work and cleaned up the yard afterwards worked for two full days in the heat. We tipped them $20 apiece. I don't know if that was enough.

Vlad

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This tipping craziness in the US is something I will never get used to. The rules are byzantine and arbitrary. Why am I expected to tip a taxi driver but not a bus driver? Why is this 20% to a waiter in a restaurant? If I eat a meal for $20 vs one for $70, how will this be a different work for the waiter, requiring a bigger tip? There might have been a time when tipping was a way of saying thank you for exceptional service, but that's no longer the case. Now tips are anything but voluntary - they are expected and calculated into wages. No matter how good the service, you will need to cough up 20% of your bill. I wish the day would come when we would simply calculate the cost of the service and include it in the price - at least we will stop pretending that tipping is anything but an added tax. Let's pay people decent wages and stop forcing them into this humiliating position of what is virtually a form of panhandling. Take for example, the "tip jars" at many cafes: I stand in line, get my drink, and I'm supposed to leave a tip? For what? And why not tip the person who bags my groceries at a supermarket? They make crappy wages, too, and their work is probably harder than a barrista's. I know that this is deeply ingrained in the American culture, so it is hopeless, but although I do tip the expected amounts, I also avoid services where tipping is expected. When I go out to eat, I select places with no waiters - I am perfectly capable of bringing food to my own table, and it is not worth the extra money I'm expected to pay for this service.

Carl

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Does anyone get the newspaper delivered any more? Talk about low wages! As a "paperboy" from a hundred years ago, this is a service that definitely should have been mentioned in this article. However, tipping them can be difficult since they operate so early in the morning. You either have to call the newspaper to relay a message to have them look under the door mat, or mail it directly. There should be a better way. ??

BCP

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I don't like too many tips.. in the old days you don't tip hairstylists. If they want tips, then charge the cost with the tip for all services. It is darn expensive to go and then have to pay $100 for the hair and$10 to$20 extra.. gosh! I remember tips are for waiters and people at the airports

Barry

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Why can't people just do the job they are paid for without expecting extra from people? It is sad that everyone seems to think everybody else owes them something. This is how America is, you owe me period. No wonder there are so many lawyer commercials on tv today wanting to sue everyone.

Faye Wilbur

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What about servers at fast food places such as Sonic?

Steven Leitner

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I am against any form of tipping. It is inconvenient to figure the amount and it is not part of the price. Tipping is aggravating and must be stopped. If tipping is important for the service provider then it should just be added into the price quoted. Tipping evades IRS Income Taxes, which anyone on a straight salary must pay. Why help anyone evade their responsibility for paying full income tax?

John

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I worked part-time as a charter bus driver, and the wages are very low for what we are responsible for. Tips for drivers were very rare. Most people don't know how little the drivers make, or they think someone else is handling it. In 3 years of driving, I got a grand total of 3 tips. Remember your bus drivers. Most never get any tips.

Maggie

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We have found that hotel maids do not always pick up the daily tips. Perhaps they are told to not disturb any possessions unless the client has checked out. I believe that all people named deserve tipping, 15 to 20% depending on service quality. In college the wage was $2.01` an hour and tips were crucial to be able to survive. I knew it so worked really hard to provide the best service. Tip based on quality though.

Charlie

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I started a new tipping method at restaurants...
$3 per person per hour with anything over an hour done in partials... i.e. 1 1/2 hour at the table... $3 X 1.5 (impacts them for rushing you).

I get tired of feeling guilty not tipping enough for breakfast compared to lunch or dinner. Breakfast is always less expensive, but the people work as hard or harder to please you... and an overly expensive dinner can be quite taxing in the tipping department if you use 15 or 20%.

You can always add a little extra for those special people.

Milt Alexander

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We still subscribe to print newspapers delivered only part of the week; always on time and dry despite the weather. we'll tip 20% of the periodic bill.

peter

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How about a cafeteria where you get your own food and the wait staff mostly just clears the table but offers any assistance needed?

Anna

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I never received a tip as a dog groomer. I never saw it given to anyone in our store.

chad

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I agree with Eric. If an individual in the service industry needs to make more money then build it into the cost of the service.

I HATE tip jars at the counter. What happens if you put a buck or two in the jar and food comes cold or it takes a long time, can you get it back?

Rae

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I think tipping is abused--tip jars are everywhere! I surprised that the lawyers don't have one on their desks, too!

nancy

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I agree w/ Geoff. Hotel/motel housekeepers should be tipped daily--theirs is a low-paying and unpleasant job. AND guests should clean up their messes & put all towels in tub.

Mike H

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I also tip our trash pickup crew at Christmas each year. Those guys work hard for the money and they show their gratitude by bringing our trash can back up by the house after pickup. It never is left to blow down the road. Geesh some of you sound like Mr Pink... stingy, stingy.

Peggy Armstrong

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I do not tip at the car wash. 2 people vacuum, another preps and 2 or3 dry. How would this many workers split 2 bucks? And the receiver probably would just pocket it.

KC

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Tip an ambulance driver? Are you kidding? I know they save lives, but would you tip your nurse or your doctor? Same goes for a dental hygienist. And the flower delivery guy? Come on. He's delivering a GIFT to you that was ordered and paid for by someone else. (Sorry, Richard.) How much are people tipping pizza delivery people these days?

Nancy J

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I don't use a lot of services that (as far as I know) expect tips. So, there are probably times that I err by not tipping. But, I ALWAYS take care of my hairdresser. I tip $10 on a $30 cut-style. I also know that when I need her to accommodate me on short notice, that she is glad to do so.

Lethe

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Well, from what I'm reading here, I'm afraid to go out of my house now. Should I tip the folks who nod hello at me on the street? How about the gentleman who was kind enough to open the door for me at the train station when I had my arms full? After all, he provided a service. What about the cashier at the grocery store? And surely the bagger should get something. And what about this website? Is there a "tip" button I should be clicking on?

Since when are WE expected to pay the salaries of someone else's employees?

Baer Charlton

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Nobody thinks of tipping the picture framer on Dec 23 who gets that gift framed for you by Dec24th.... Cops used to get free cups of coffee . . . now I see tip jars (gallon sized) on the counters of convenience stores . . . for WHAT?

It used to be an insult in many countries to even try to tip someone, it is insinuating that you didn't expect them to do their job. America needs to get a grip.

Sally Kruger

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You forgot hotel concierge, parking valet,hotel housekeeping, and restaurant servers

Leo Stakemiller

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I regularly leave a Christmas Card & tip for my newspaper delivery person..I am an amputee and he leaves my morning paper right by my front door..greatly appreciated!

Jake Greene

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I'm just glad to see 'baristas' are not on this list. Tip for someone providing the basic product - a cup of coffee - of a coffee shop. Ya gotta be kiddin'. Would you tip a guy who sells you tires (a tirista)? Or, rings up your purchase at Panney's? Look, I understand these folks are underpaid; I just don't feel it's up to me to make up wages for skinflint employers.

Halfonts

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I eat every meal out (1000 meals/year), and therefore must eat cheap. However, I tip regularly. At some point I realized: Why tip more for an expensive dinner; than for those who care for my breakfast? So, I tip 10% rounded up, not a lot, but 3-times every day.
For others, I round the bill up for barbers, taxi-drivers and anyone who does really exceptional service. I also thank people constantly.

sara

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A tip is a "gratuity". That means it should be freely given and not expected. You cannot add an 18% gratuity as that is not freely give. It is time that America paid all it's workers a fair wage. If eating in a restaurant means someone will have to take you order and carry the food to your table and refill your water then that should be in the cost of the item. Otherwise they might as well charge for the cost of the food then a kitchen charge then a cook charge then a rent charge separately. Pay fair wages and let gratuities be just that. It is also insane to tip a percentage of the cost of a bottle of wine; It is no less work to pour a $10 bottle than a $150 bottle. Tipping is out of control in the USA!

Debbie

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I have used movers several times. I didn't realize I should tip then until the last time I moved. The "head" mover kept making comments about being careful and might tip them well. I was stunned because I didn't know that I should tip. I had no cash on hand either. At the end of the day, he asked for a pen and paper to figure out how much the driver was giving them and how much each man was getting. He made sure to let me know they were going to be disappointed in their money. He kept hinting to me that I should tip them. I was embarrassed and a bit ticked off.

Arla Albers

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In your tips article you forgot entertainers: face painters, balloonists, caricature artists, etc., especially those of us who work in restaurants and greatly reduce our working price for the restaurant. Tips help to try to make up some of that discount we give to the restaurants. Thanks!

Dave

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Valet!! Especially in the rain, cold or extreme heat. $2 min. but $3 to $5 shows appreciation for hustling quickly to get the car.

Anne Weir

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First, let me say that Medical therapists, nurses, etc. DO NOT get tipped. This is against their ethical standards and code of conduct per their licensure! Ambulance drivers are often EMTs or are employees of the ambulance service and shouldn't hint for tips!!

Finally, I, too, always tip the maid service in a hotel. It's amazing how clean and wonderful your room will be. Plus, these folks work for minimum wage often and every little bit helps.

Sue Hippe

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I give a tip to the person who pumps my gas. In Oregon it is not self-serve.

qaz

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A lot of people get too much for their services already. 15 to 20% tip? Outrageous! And how many times do people tip for liquor at restaurants when you are not supposed to? If you have over 6 people they add 20% and do a lousy job. Then if you mistakenly add a tip on that they won't stop you. Too many people are expecting too much.

Jeanie

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I tip my dog groomer $5 when my shih tzu is groomed. In return, the groomer doesn't charge me when I take my German shorthair pointer in to have her nails trimmed. She should probably charge me $50 for this job because Gracie acts like she's being killed! Since I'm not charged for this "torture" she's putting my dog through, I give her a $10 tip.

Connie

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I'm with Pablo. I think that tipping should go away. I'd much rather have the "tip" built in to the purchase price. I do tip in appropriate situations, but would greatly prefer not having to worry about it.

Jan Humphrey

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I draw the line at handymen -- their hourly fee is more than twice mine-- and for lawncare service--why can't we all get tips then-- I'd like a tip for my work as a paralegal--I make less then hair stylists; dog groomers -- geez, give me a break ---

Linda

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Several thoughts:
My hair stylist recently went from being a "chair" in a salon, to having her own place. I still tip her, since she goes over-and-above for me.
Next, tipping is not an "either - or" based on quality of service. If service has been poor, it's best to ask for a manager and speak with them so they can address the situation. If it has been ok or so-so, then adjust your tip accordingly, with 20% being for great service, and 10% reflecting good service.
Lastly, remember that if you are an oyster eater (raw, on the half-shell), tip your oyster shuckers!

M Jones

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I don't think tipping should be required as a must for anything. tipping should always be an option. People charge a required fee and should not expect more from the customer.

Peggy

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Tipping has always been a real peeve with me. I lived in Europe and spend lots of time in Mexico where you only tipping is much less predominate then in the US. I never get tipped for my work and I work hard and often do extra without charging (I'm a computer consultant). People should do great work because they take pride in what they do and employers just need to charge appropriately to pay their staff properly instead of relying on tips. It's nuts. Starbucks tip jar really makes me crazy - that's their job, to be nice and make my coffee. Sorry those of you in the service industry who depend on tips - I think it's a very bad policy.

Philesha

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For those saying the amounts are to high or as one person said "disgusting" please be informed that alot of us stylist are on commission and a tip is part of are income ! So next time you decide you want a last minutes haircut and we fit you in or you come in and decide you want five thousand colors done and have to be done in two hours or you bring your bratty kids in who destroy salon property and all we do is smile
REMEBER HOW IMPORTANT THAT TIP IS IT MEANS MUCH MORE!

Jane

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It is my belief that tipping should be done away with. Instead, employers should be paying everyone a living wage of which Federal, State, Social Security and Medicare taxes are taken out. All employees should be paying into the tax system and it shouldn't be on the honor system. We all know that never works when it comes to taxes.

Paul Thomson

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I was stopped by the owner of a restaurant on my out after leaving a $50 tip for four meals. The waiter had complained that it was insufficient for his service. Besides the fact that he was surly and got the orders wrong, how much should one pay to have someone write down and order and bring a plate of food? I have never been back and have told several friends about my experience.

Sadie

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Like it or not - tipping for certain services is part of our culture. Until wages and benefits change for certain jobs, I suggest looking at it as a means of obtaining good karma. It's interesting that lower income people are often the best tippers. I think it's always good to treat people well who have less than me. And people who rely on tips are, for the most part, hard workers.

Judith Poe

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Recently, I was taken by ambulance from an acute care center to a hospital. The driver of the ambulance was acting like my husband should have tipped him. Do you tip ambulance drivers?

suzanne laberge

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very helpful... clears up a lot of confusion... and validates what I thought!

Pat

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You don't comment on the situation of business owner vs. employee. I've always heard that if the service provider is the business owner, tips are not necessary (for example, in a hair or nail salon). I would still provide a holiday or special occasion gratuity of some kind, but not for regular appointments. Same with cleaning personnel. Do you agree?

chris wolff

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don't believe that electricians, plumbers and house repairmen warrant tips at 30-75.00/hour plus travel?????

Wendy

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What about Salon owners? I was told that a Christmas gratuity was appropriate.

Paul

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when to tip and how to tip is always a timely issue. Overtipping has become a problem recently. Don't tip for counterservice ever!! Just because they have a jar, doesn't mean they deserve a tip. Also, don't automatically tip 20 percent for good service. The standard has been 15 percent. Maintain that. Dollars go up with inflation. There is no reason to increase the percentage as well. But do tip well for good service. 20 percent or more is good for a thoughtful server. 20 percent should never be an expectation.

B

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I have to reply to your counter service comment - In college I worked for a coffee/sandwich shop where I earned less than minimum wage. It was a small place, so most of the time only one employee worked at a time and did *everything*. I made food, drinks, cleaned the dishes, bussed the tables, rang up customers, sometimes waited on the tables, etc - all at once. I depended on my counter tip jar to even make the minimum, and you wouldn't believe how many people never tipped because they felt it was unnecessary. I barely scraped by most days. At little, independent places, the tip jar can be crucial. Even loose change was appreciated. It all helps.

B

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I have to reply to your counter service comment - In college I worked for a coffee/sandwich shop where I earned less than minimum wage. It was a small place, so most of the time only one employee worked at a time and did *everything*. I made food, drinks, cleaned the dishes, bussed the tables, rang up customers, sometimes waited on the tables, etc - all at once. I depended on my counter tip jar to even make the minimum, and you wouldn't believe how many people never tipped because they felt it was unnecessary. I barely scraped by most days. At little, independent places, the tip jar can be crucial. Even loose change was appreciated. It all helps.

Kathy Kircher

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The info on movers should be changed to say "For larger moves, companies say a tip of $20 to $50 PER MOVER is appropriate."

Put a larger comment box on your "Leave a comment" screen.

Peter

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Great info guys. Quick question- How much should you tip a valet?

Joycee Dozier

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I think tips are for someone who does an especially good job, not just everyone. Otherwise, they might just as well raise their rates to pay themselves properly. Tips are a privilege, not a right.

Kay

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I think people would like to know guidelines for tipping hotel staff as well, esp. housekeeping staff.

Kathy

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Should u tip the owner or just the employees of a company?

Geoff Godfrey

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You forgot an important one. Tip your maid service in your hotel. They aren't getting rich and if they do a nice job on your room, say thank you. Some say tip daily but at least when you leave, if the service has been good say thank you.

Fran Bornman

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I appreciated this story. Very helpful. I'm an older person and people often offer additional help. It is good to get a ball-park idea of how to thank them.

Mischa

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I'm a massage therapist who works out of my home. I don't pay a lot of overhead and price my massages so that tips are not needed. However, I disagree with the statement that medical or rehabilitative massages don't call for gratuities. While it's true that most people don't tip on these types of massages because they see it as a medical visit, it is still greatly appreciated by the massage therapist, who is usually only making a percentage of what the doctor is charging. I think the same rules of tipping should apply to these MT's...if you really like the work they did, a tip is appropriate.

sammantha

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servers are one that MANY people do not tip appropriately. A lot of times wait & bar staff tip others they work with & sometimes it is mandatory. Sometimes they have to do extra work for that person, but there is no 'tip out'. People who leave very little or nothing can leave their server in the negative for that table. With no tip we basically work for free. I am a bartender & I make a larger wage per hr. than a server but my weekly check is under ninety dollars & a server's is under nine dollars, if anything, after taxes.

rose

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should you tip if that person is getting the full amount for the service any way?

Ash N.E.

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Is it still proper etiquette not to tip the owner of a salon or business if he/she is the one providing you the service, but instead average out money spent for a holiday bonus?

Brad Arnold

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I always consider tipping service personnel if they are employees. However, if they own the business, or a business partner, I do not. For example, if a stylist who cuts my hair owns the salon, I won't tip, but if it's a stylist who is an employee, I will. Another thing, always tip the housekeepers at motels. They work hard, are given only a short time to clean a room immaculately, and commonly make only minimum wage. Tips are very much appreciated by them.

blackcat

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Why do people tip hairstylists who make $20-40+ for 20 minutes of work? Even if they're on commission, that's still $30-60 per hour! I tip waitstaff, period, because their pay structure depends upon tips. Most of the folks you describe earn many times minimum wage and I feel no need to tip them. Tip a contractor who's making $100s per hour? Don't think so! I'll refer people to them if they're fair and do good work.

Dorothy

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Do you tip owner of salon for hair color or perms if she does your hair?

george lintner

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people should ONLY be tipped for doing better service than normally expected. The % should be based on degree of service not some arbitrary formula. That is why presently most service providers give average or below average service because they know people have been brainwashed to give a tip no matter how good or bad the service.

Steven Francis

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Angels Home Cleaning Service in Melbourne, FL did an exceptionally detailed and time consuming job. It went way above their expectations so I tipped them 20%. They were so appreciative that the next time they came, they did even more than expected, without expecting a tip. The two girls Betty and Morgan are great housekeepers with great references and I would recommend them to everyone in the area!

Richard

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No one ever tips the Flower Delivery Guy. Flower Delivery guys should be tipped.

sharon

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You forgot the wheelchair transporters at the airport. They make service wages so tips are crucial to their income.

Roger Barton

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I have rottweilers, which can be a handful even though they're friendly and well-trained, so I always tip groomers 15% rounded to the next dollar. My housecleaning service has it pretty easy at my place, but I figure on individual Christmas cards with money enclosed, early in December.

Bob Berting

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I'm not interested in hearing from people all over the country about tips. There can be regional differences. All I want to know should come from Indianapolis companies.

Kathy

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Do people typically tip for daily service in hotels?

Eric

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I LOATHE tipping, especially if it's based on a percentage of the total cost. To think that you'd give a car wash guy $2-$3 for an $8 car wash is ludicrous! That's upwards of a 40% tip! I'd rather the carwash was just a buck or two more and there was no tipping. I especially hate it in restaurants where you can buy the same basic meal at two different restaurants, one cheap, one expensive, and tip more at the latter simply because the check costs more. The wait-person did the same job in both! So I refuse to tip anything based on a percentage.

Also, had furniture delivered recently and came online to see how much to tip. Interestingly, most furniture companies discourage tipping. Living Spaces has it right on their website to not tip their deliverymen. Good for them!

J.A. Coffeen

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I thought the article about tipping was disgusting in the amounts it suggests tipping, and for services that must only recently have started receiving tips. Oh, well, if a crash is really coming, it will clear out that "aristocracy" pretense.

Tom Richardson

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I don't quite understand. We leave tips for restaurant people because their hour pay is so low. What is your explanation for tipping someone who should earn a proper hourly wage?

Pablo W. Grollmus

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i prefer that the price be higher and the tip not be required period as in Hong Kong, Singapore and many European countries... tipping is a form of tax whereby the employee is not paid by the employer and the customer must put up the untaxed difference since tip are grossly under reported. Stop tipping all together for all services, I say.

LKizer

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I don't see a reason to tip anyone that is the business owner. As a (sole proprietor) math tutor, I never expected a tip. Yet, I have run into salon owners and pet sitters who do expect a tip even though they are the service provider. They can set their rates at whatever they want. Why tip? NPR suggests the main reason people tip is out of GUILT if they don't. I concur.

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I second the original question (still unanswered). Speaking as someone who logged in today to try to find an attorney, I see this category as one that's exactly what I have my Angie's List membership for:

1. It's important that I find a good one
2. I'm not an expert enough to know myself who is a good one
3. The industry is full of advertisements and misinformation
4. I wish I knew what experiences other people have had


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I don't care about lawns--I planted mine in clover and don't have to mow it. When I do need to mow I use a rotary Fiskars mower, which is great--or a scythe. That's right--a scythe (the European type, which is smaller, and it's very good exercise). Gas-powered mowers, chemical fertilizers and weed killers--all nasty stuff that gets into everyone's air, soil, and water. I'm sure my neighbor doesn't like my wildflowers, semi-wild pockets of fruit bushes, and unmown areas and yes, dandelions (I have 10 acres) but that's too bad. It's better habitat for wildlife, especially the pollinators on which our food supply depends. I think this obsession with the Great American Lawn is a waste of time and resources. Plant some food instead.


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I'm not sure Angie et. al. want you to have a complete answer to this question. By re-subscribing at the Indiana State Fair in 2012, I think I paid $20.00 per year for a multi- year subscription. Maybe even less. At the other extreme--and I hope my memory isn't faulty about this--I think the price, for my area, for ONE year was an outrageous $70.00. And they debited me automatically without warning. I had to opt out of that automatic charge. I like Angie's List, but if some of the companies they monitor behaved the way they do in this respect, they'd be on some sort of Pages of Unhappiness. I'll be interested to see if this comment gets published or censored out of existence.
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That's very difficult to answer without seeing the house. As one poster said, the prep is the most important part. On newer homes that don't have a lot of peeling paint, the prep can be very minimal even as low as a couple or a few hundred dollars for the prep labor.

On a 100 year old home with 12 coats of peeling paint on it, then the prep costs can be very high and can easily exceed 50% of the job's labor cost.

A 2100 sq ft two story home could easily cost $1000 just for the labor to prep for the paint job. That number could climb too. Throw in lots of caullking  or window glazing, and you could be talking a couple or a few hundred dollars more for labor.

Painting that home with one coat of paint and a different color on the trim could run roughly $1000 or more just for labor. Add a second coat  and that could cost close to another $1000 for labor.

For paint, you may need 20 gallons of paint. You can pay from $30-$70 for a gallon of good quality exterior paint. The manufacturer of the paint should be specified in any painting contract. Otherwise, the contractor could bid at a Sherwin-Williams $60 per gallon paint and then paint the house with $35 Valspar and pocket the difference. $25 dollars per gallon times 20 gallons? That's a pretty penny too.

That was the long answer to your question. The short answer is $2000 to $4000 and up, depending upon the amount of prep, the number of coats, the amount of trim, and the paint used.