Are Double-Keyed Deadbolt Locks Safe?

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Subject: Simple solution

How about this, install both a single-cylinder deadbolt and double-cylinder deadbolt on each exterior door? Only lock the double-cylinder deadbolts when everyone is away unable to monitor the premises. Fire safety issue solved.

Jay Staats

Subject: Danger of Double Key Locks:

When I was a Los Angeles County Deputy Sheriff I had the sad observation of seeing a young woman who was killed by smoke inhalation. She had left the key in the double key deadbolt, but investigation revealed that in her rush to escape the fire by turning the lock, she had pinched the key causing it to move slightly outward from the lock. She broke off the key and subsequently died. I shudder every time I see a double key deadbolt, as I have the picture of this dead person imbedded in my mind.


Subject: Special needs kids with double keyed deadbolts

Double keyed deadbolts are the only things that keep our 9 year old autistic son safe - without them, he'll run right out the door. We're well aware it's not code. But, we had it evaluated by the fire department, and they're OK with it given the lack of alternatives.


Subject: I'm in the same situation and

I'm in the same situation and we didn't want to go with something so dangerous. a high mounted chain or deadbolt performs the same function but is somwhat less dangerous in an emergency. We opted to go with a door alarm. But as my boy gets older what we'll likely install is a maglock with an exit button mounted where he can't reach it. We just keep adapting as he adapts, but I would never want to trap my family in a burning home.

There ARE other/better solutions.

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That's very difficult to answer without seeing the house. As one poster said, the prep is the most important part. On newer homes that don't have a lot of peeling paint, the prep can be very minimal even as low as a couple or a few hundred dollars for the prep labor.

On a 100 year old home with 12 coats of peeling paint on it, then the prep costs can be very high and can easily exceed 50% of the job's labor cost.

A 2100 sq ft two story home could easily cost $1000 just for the labor to prep for the paint job. That number could climb too. Throw in lots of caullking  or window glazing, and you could be talking a couple or a few hundred dollars more for labor.

Painting that home with one coat of paint and a different color on the trim could run roughly $1000 or more just for labor. Add a second coat  and that could cost close to another $1000 for labor.

For paint, you may need 20 gallons of paint. You can pay from $30-$70 for a gallon of good quality exterior paint. The manufacturer of the paint should be specified in any painting contract. Otherwise, the contractor could bid at a Sherwin-Williams $60 per gallon paint and then paint the house with $35 Valspar and pocket the difference. $25 dollars per gallon times 20 gallons? That's a pretty penny too.

That was the long answer to your question. The short answer is $2000 to $4000 and up, depending upon the amount of prep, the number of coats, the amount of trim, and the paint used.