Angie's List Adding New Review Categories for Pets

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Subject: Puppy mills

Please, please do NOT accept any dog breeders from Lancaster County, PA unless an AKC official inspects the kennels/ homes!! The Amish and Mennonite breeders there are NOT what one would think they are. I have a "Breeder surrender" from Lancaster County who cannot bark because she had the "surgery" performed by puppy millers with no anesthesia wherein a sharp object is hammered down the Doug's throat to destroy her vocal chords! Please, please never buy a puppy in a pet store, as they buy their pups from these mills! Time for someone to stand up for the innocent animals who (literally) have no voice!

Kim Jimenez


I am looking for a Yorkie, does anyone know a reliabe resource where I may adopt one or purchase one at a reasonable price? I am located in St. Petersburg FL.

Neil Krebs


August 31, 2011

Free message about feeding meals to all canies and felines:
DO NOT feed a meal
containing CORN to your canie or feline.

Reason: Because CORN adds body weight to your canie or feline.
Therefore BEFORE purchasing canie or feline food READ the LABEL. If the MEAL LABEL says CORN then reject it pronto! NO purchese!

Teresa Schwab


I agree 100% with Diane's email. I have volunteered for many years with various shelters. They are all overloaded beccause of irresponsible owners who do not spay/neuter, can't be bothered to train their pets so they are not destructive, or move without taking their pets along. If Angie's List starts promoting animal brokers, I will terminate my membership immediately!

Diane Richards


Imagine my dismay when I excitedly started reading and realized what a disservice this article did to your readers as well as to many of the animal rescue organizations, especially shelters, in this country. Angie's List has always been viewed as proactive in the animal welfare arena, but stating some shelters are "overcrowded, understaffed or lacking of programs" and then not stating why there are these problems i.e. lack of spay/neuter laws, irresponsible pet owners, municipal underfunding, decreased donations, etc. was irresponsible journalism. A huge opportunity was missed to educate your members about adoption, explaining the process of using and finding good reputable rescues. Emphasize the need for adoption with 5-6 million animals being euthanized each year. Solutions for the problems should have been offered.

Instead, as one response you will be adding animal breeders/brokers to your list. Animal breeders/brokers are part of the problem!!!! Brokers are nothing more than middlemen between puppy mills and pet stores. If someone is buying a dog from a broker they should turn and run as fast as possible. Brokers shouldn't even be a review category unless Angie's List is now promoting puppy mills. If you are adding breeders to the list then educate the public about how to find a responsible breeder. They need to know responsible breeders breed to time proven standards of temperament and physical appearance so the integrity of the breed is kept intact. Responsible breeders DO NOT breed different breeds producing "designer dogs." Responsible breeders DO NOT use pet stores to sell their puppies. Responsible breeders WILL let you see their breeding pairs, the environment where the puppies or kittens are born and raised. Responsible breeders DO NOT use internet websites or newspaper ads to sell puppies. Many irresponsible breeders are "wolves in sheep's clothing" - buyer BEWARE - Amish/Mennonite breeders are a perfect example. They view puppies only as livestock and treat them as such. They supply many of the pet stores in this country with puppies. NEVER buy from these communities.

I think many pet owners/members will agree that a golden opportunity was missed to provide valuable information and solutions to an evergrowing problem in this country. Adding breeders, brokers, and in fact even pet stores that sell pets to your review categories does nothing to enhance the image of Angie's List.

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I second the original question (still unanswered). Speaking as someone who logged in today to try to find an attorney, I see this category as one that's exactly what I have my Angie's List membership for:

1. It's important that I find a good one
2. I'm not an expert enough to know myself who is a good one
3. The industry is full of advertisements and misinformation
4. I wish I knew what experiences other people have had

I don't care about lawns--I planted mine in clover and don't have to mow it. When I do need to mow I use a rotary Fiskars mower, which is great--or a scythe. That's right--a scythe (the European type, which is smaller, and it's very good exercise). Gas-powered mowers, chemical fertilizers and weed killers--all nasty stuff that gets into everyone's air, soil, and water. I'm sure my neighbor doesn't like my wildflowers, semi-wild pockets of fruit bushes, and unmown areas and yes, dandelions (I have 10 acres) but that's too bad. It's better habitat for wildlife, especially the pollinators on which our food supply depends. I think this obsession with the Great American Lawn is a waste of time and resources. Plant some food instead.

I'm not sure Angie et. al. want you to have a complete answer to this question. By re-subscribing at the Indiana State Fair in 2012, I think I paid $20.00 per year for a multi- year subscription. Maybe even less. At the other extreme--and I hope my memory isn't faulty about this--I think the price, for my area, for ONE year was an outrageous $70.00. And they debited me automatically without warning. I had to opt out of that automatic charge. I like Angie's List, but if some of the companies they monitor behaved the way they do in this respect, they'd be on some sort of Pages of Unhappiness. I'll be interested to see if this comment gets published or censored out of existence.

That's very difficult to answer without seeing the house. As one poster said, the prep is the most important part. On newer homes that don't have a lot of peeling paint, the prep can be very minimal even as low as a couple or a few hundred dollars for the prep labor.

On a 100 year old home with 12 coats of peeling paint on it, then the prep costs can be very high and can easily exceed 50% of the job's labor cost.

A 2100 sq ft two story home could easily cost $1000 just for the labor to prep for the paint job. That number could climb too. Throw in lots of caullking  or window glazing, and you could be talking a couple or a few hundred dollars more for labor.

Painting that home with one coat of paint and a different color on the trim could run roughly $1000 or more just for labor. Add a second coat  and that could cost close to another $1000 for labor.

For paint, you may need 20 gallons of paint. You can pay from $30-$70 for a gallon of good quality exterior paint. The manufacturer of the paint should be specified in any painting contract. Otherwise, the contractor could bid at a Sherwin-Williams $60 per gallon paint and then paint the house with $35 Valspar and pocket the difference. $25 dollars per gallon times 20 gallons? That's a pretty penny too.

That was the long answer to your question. The short answer is $2000 to $4000 and up, depending upon the amount of prep, the number of coats, the amount of trim, and the paint used.