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That's very difficult to answer without seeing the house. As one poster said, the prep is the most important part. On newer homes that don't have a lot of peeling paint, the prep can be very minimal even as low as a couple or a few hundred dollars for the prep labor.

On a 100 year old home with 12 coats of peeling paint on it, then the prep costs can be very high and can easily exceed 50% of the job's labor cost.

A 2100 sq ft two story home could easily cost $1000 just for the labor to prep for the paint job. That number could climb too. Throw in lots of caullking  or window glazing, and you could be talking a couple or a few hundred dollars more for labor.

Painting that home with one coat of paint and a different color on the trim could run roughly $1000 or more just for labor. Add a second coat  and that could cost close to another $1000 for labor.

For paint, you may need 20 gallons of paint. You can pay from $30-$70 for a gallon of good quality exterior paint. The manufacturer of the paint should be specified in any painting contract. Otherwise, the contractor could bid at a Sherwin-Williams $60 per gallon paint and then paint the house with $35 Valspar and pocket the difference. $25 dollars per gallon times 20 gallons? That's a pretty penny too.

That was the long answer to your question. The short answer is $2000 to $4000 and up, depending upon the amount of prep, the number of coats, the amount of trim, and the paint used.


Remember, you not only have to remove the popcorn texture, but also redo the ceiling in some other texture.

Price will depend on several factors:

1) how much the contractor you choose hates removing popcorn or textured ceilings - some charge $1 or so/SF extra just because they hate it. There are even some who bid total drywall replacement cheaper than removing the popcorn, so you have to first find contractors who are happy to do that work, or your prices will be out of the realistic range

2) if the popcorn predates about 1990, then it could likely have asbestos in it, which doubles or triples the price, and in many cases uncapsulating it with a spray coating and then removing the drywall entirely is actually cheaper than all the protective measures necessary if it is scraped off. 

3) whether the popcorn is primarily gypsum and vermiculite (comes off REAL easy) or was the plaster of paris variety, which takes a fair amount of soaking to soften it enough to scrape off

4) what type of finish you are replacing it with - if a textured ceiling, slapcoat, knockdown finish or paneling, not real problem. If you want to go with a perfectly smooth ceiling (generally a bad idea as any variations in the drywall on a ceiling surface really shows up dramatically), then it will demand a lot of care in preparing the scraped surface, and a complete surface drywall compound skim coat to smooth out the scrapes and gouges from the removal process.

5) what underlying conditions are - if there is a lot of furniture to move around (should go to adjacent rooms) or cover and work around, high-quality rug or hardwood floor to super-protect or such, will drive cost up.

I have seen costs run from as low as $0.60/SF to $1.25/SF (for removal only). Generally, remove and recoat with a surface texture of some kind (anything but smooth) and paint will run you about $2.50-3.50/SF.

Now the bad news - if asbestos containing, can run from $5-10/SF. Many homeowners in that situation go the other legal route - have it encapsulated with an asbestos-rated sealant by an asbestos contractor, then paint it and leave it for the next homeowner to decide what to do about it. Some contractors encapsulate it and then put a 1/4" thick drywall layer over it - this usually looks like a disaster unless it has a VERY rough textured finish on it, because putting drywall sheet over a rough surface like popcorn invariably means a wavy surface commonly looks like a gently rolling ocean surface.

Hair spray is one of those things that is really bothersome.  We've run into this alot unfortunately.  And NOTHING we've found will actually clean it off.  The problem is that if you just paint over it, you still see shiny spots wherever the hairspray was.

Our companie's policy is to prime the area with any bonding primer.  This will seal the hairspray in and not let it affect the next coat of paint.  It would also be a good idea to lightly sand the area first.

Our recommendation for primer would be Zinsser's BIN Spray (red can) and can be bought at most paint stores or home improvement stores.  Other than that, any thing that specifically says "bonding" for a primer should be adequate enough. 
This is a good question.  However, the question makes the assumption that there is a paint that covers everything in 1 coat, which I don't believe is the case.  My recommendation is Benjamin Moore's Aura.  Now the fine print.  Aura will cover very well because it dries to approximately twice the thickness of other paints.  However, Aura says it will cover any color in never more than 2 coats, but there are exceptions to that as well, including some deep reds.  The main thing is the color change.  If the color you are using is within the same family of colors, you have a chance, we've also had pretty good success of grey covering over tan in 1 coat, but if you're making a major color change, don't expect any paint to cover perfectly in 1 coat.

Some other 1 coat coverage paints you could use would be Sherwin Williams Duration, and Behr Ultra Premium Plus.

Hope this helps! 
Without seeing the project I'm not sure exactly what is happening.  HOWEVER, I've never heard of someone "floating" over paint blisters - just logically that can't work.  If air or moisture are trapped (because that's what causes blisters) painting over them won't fix the initial problem.

I have a couple suggestions - My first would have been to contact the paint manufacturer - whether it's sherwin williams, benjamin moore, behr, etc. to see if they would send a rep out to give their recommendation.  We have done this before starting a project to get the best possible recommendation for work to be done and have found them to be very helpful in diagnosing what is currently going on and the best way to fix it.

If that doesn't work, I would call either the better business bureau or maybe the local paper if your contractor isn't willing to work through the problem with you.  Also, If your contractor warrantied the work I might re-read that to see what they cover if anything.  

My guess is that there will have to be some sort of dispute resolution process.

Hope this helps! 

Interior Painters in Lake Tomahawk, WI

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771 Roof & Construction

N11712 CTY RD P

A Paintmasters

1747 County Rd kk

Abbey Group LLC

2628 Arbor Dr

ABC Construction

1122 S Wells St
Lake Geneva

Action Drywall LLC

6957 Rapids Road
Lake Tomahawk

Al Rish Painting & Decorating

1928 Richmond Ave



All Trade Remodeling

7920 Midway Road

Auestad Woodworks LLC


Baumann Home Improvements

8307 Schroeder Rd


P.O. Box 841

Chapin Construction LLC

W13828 2nd Ave


7261 Commerce Plaza Dr

D&S Construction

832 Lakeshore dr.
Rice Lake

Derkson Home Remodeling

1390 Mulberry Lane

Diamond Remodeling

N9016 Buckhorn Rd
Beaver Dam

DK's Electrostatic Painting LLC

Southeast Wisconsin


7266 HIWY 42
Egg Harbor

DPS Painting

South 14th Street

Draeger Decorators

1717 Tanglewood Trail

Eisel service

4090 mill lake rd
Sugar Camp

Elevate Construction Inc

1000 S Fairfield Drive

First Choice Cabinetry LLC

46 185th St.
Star Prairie

Genteman Construction LLC

N3695 Robin Avenue

George Angell Painting

715 S Keenan St

Hands On Enterprises LLC

621 Liberty St

home repair shops

1908 Webster st

House Painters of Kenosha

6011 29th Ave

J & N Construction

2108 N 19th St



Kalms Painting Inc

11278 Old Stage Road
Sister Bay

Kats Cleaners

560 state highway 73 south

Kenosha Paint Pros

4811 Green bay Rd

Koeller Builds Plus LLC

2200 Rookery View Road
Rib Mountain

Lake Pointe Construction

8374 Doolittle Rd

Longsine's Painting

W8147 Chicago Road

Mike King Remodeling & Electric

8954 Forestwood Lane

Military Painters

N4679 24TH AVE
Wild Rose

Myre 2 Myre LLC

P O Box 107


PO Box 94

One Man Crew

31 West Walnut St
Chippewa Falls

Premier Home Improvements

2426 Roosevelt Rd

Property Revival, LLC

4123 Terminal Dr.
Mc Farland

Quality Property Maintenance

129 E. 9th Avenue

Seagull Enterprises

700 w south st

Sorenson Paint and Design

212 Clark St


99 7TH AVE N, P. O. BOX 236

Switch Acres

E4561 County Road G549554


675 Ridge Rd

Tater's Total Home Improvement

N5486 State Highway 17

Thorson Painting Inc

1850 N 136th Ave


PO BOX 287



Turner Home Improvements

2525 34th Street

William Greely Custom Builders

2307 E 9th st



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