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who assisted us was excellent." He spent alot of time with us explaining the product and process. He then came to our house and measured all of the windows, wrote up the quote and even helped us increase our credit line at Lowe's to cover the cost ! They had a no interest for 12 months program we took advantage of. The subcontracter was then scheduled to come to our home and check the measurements to make sure of the sizes and evaluate the job. He showed up on time and was efficient in his task. He informed us that it would be a two day job with two men. The order was placed and we were given an approximate date for the install (the windows are manufactured to order in Minnesota). When the windows were shipped,
called and gave us the date and time. The crew of two men showed up ON TIME both days and conducted themselves in a professional manner at all times. They were respectful of our property and cleaned up all the debris.

-Ann Marie N.

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"- Left us in the lurch. - High retail plus pricing for tile - No tile layout provided by designer. - Failed to help us with follow on order to fix the shoddy" installation I wouldn't depend on them

-Mark V.

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Todd said it best.

An itemized list / cost breakdown, more often than not is used against the contractor when it is shared with other builders who will then beat it.

Good contractors use good people, and good people cost more.  Just the cost of having the appropriate insurance / bond can be the difference between winning a job or losing it ot a 'lower bid'.

It is the rule of three; there is Good, Cheap and Fast.  You can have any two:  Good and Cheap, won't be Fast; Good and Fast, won't be Cheap;  Cheap and Fast, won't be Good!

When comparing bids, it isn't the cheapest or the 'nicest' person you should select.   You should understand why there is a large price difference (it shows there are gaps in your design program or what you have asked for specifically, which means there may be arguments later).  If most of the bids are in line, and one is way high or way low,  you want to know why before dismissing or selecting them.

A price-only decision almost always costs more in the long run. 

Good luck!
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There are two sides to this and everyone will have an opinion.  I can tell you that from a contractor's point of view a customer that is up front with me is much easier to work with and the entire experience is much more pleasurable to all parties involved.  If you treat your contractor like there's always something to hide from him expect the same in return.  A good contractor is going to take your budget into consideration and make recommendations based on that budget.  When possible, he's going to estimate the work 10-20% under your target to leave room for the unexpected.  With any remodeling work, there's always the possibility and likelihood that there will be surprises that will have to be added such as mold damage, improper existing framing, etc.  The cushion allows room for the project cost to grow without going over your budget.  If no problems are found and you decide to spend that money some of the final finishes can be upgraded or other projects added.

Another good arguement for disclosing your budget to your contractor is to save you both some time and aggrevation.  You may have a $10,000 budget and want $30,000 worth of work.  Wouldn't you like to know your desires aren't possible before you get your hopes up or spend money on design fees for plans you can't afford?  Likewise, the contractor doesn't want to put in the hours of calculating the estimate only to find out it was all for nothing or that he has to refigure for a much lower cost after pricing what you specified.

Be fair and honest with your contractor if you expect the same respect in return.  You'll get a lot more out of it with the right contractor.

Todd Shell
Todd's Home Services
San Antonio, TX
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Herlonginc's answer stated that it is not the contractor's job to pay for materials and labor to do the job. I say baloney - a reputable, established contractor has the funds (or a business operations line of credit) to "carry" the job between interim or partial payments, each of which should be keyed to completion of distinct easily measured mileposts in the job, and for a homeowner I would say should be in not more than 20% increments for jobs exceeding a week or so. For shorter jobs, then an initial payment, 50% completion, and completion would be normal. His cost of carry funds is part of his cost of doing business, and is figured as part of his overhead.Bear in mind when he is buying materials and paying labor, his materials he typically pays for on a 10-30 day invoice, and his labor typically a week or two after they work, so he is not really "fronting" that much money if you are giving him weekly or biweekly interim payments, on a typical residential job.

If he does not have the funds to buy materials (excepting possibly deposit on special-order or luxury items, which still typically are 10-30 day invoiceable to him) and hire personnel then he is a fly-by-night operation, and he should not be bidding that size job. You should never (other than MAYBE an earnest deposit of not more than the LESSER of 10% or $5000) let the payments get ahead of the approved/inspected work progress - typically payment should be 10-20% BEHIND the progress, with at least 10% retained at the effective end of work until final inspections and completion of the final "punchlist".

That promotes rapid continuation of the work, discourages the all-too common nightmare of contractors taking on more work than they can handle so they leave your job for weeks or months to go work on someone else's job (frequently to start that someone else's new job so he can get the job), and does not leave you out a tremendous amount of cash if he does not finish and you have to hire another contractor to finish the job. Remember, if you have to hire a new contractor to finish the job, he will charge you a lot more than the original bid to finish someone else's unfinished mess.

This may seem cynical, but having started in the construction business about 50 years ago and seeing the shenanigans that a lot of contractors pull you cannot be too safe. You have to remember contractors are like any other people - I would say maybe 10% are outright crooks, another 25% or so will pull a fast one or overcharge if the opportunity presents itself, maybe 30% will do the work but not any better than they are forced to, about 25% are good conscientious reputable workmen, and the last 10% or so are really spectacular - conscientious, fair, and efficient craftsmen. This top 35% are the only ones you should have bidding in the first place. Therefore, only get bids from long-term reputable firms (so you shake out the marginal short-timers with less experience and also generally less ability to finish the job on budget and schedule), only those that have good RECENT references, and preferably with excellent word-of-mouth recommendation from people you know and trust. That way, you are starting right off with the cream of the crop, so hopefully whichever one bids low should be a good choice.

NEVER start with bids, then check the references of the low bidder - why even consider a vendor or contractor who you do not have faith in from the start ? Get references and short-list you possibles BEFORE you ask for bids.

Low bids - that is another matter - commonly the low bidder is NOT who you want, especially if he is significantly lower than several others, which might mean he is desperate for work, made a math error, or did not correctly figure the entire scope of work. You want a reasonable bid with someone you connect with and trust - that is worth a lot more in the success of the job than the absolute lowest bid.

 

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You should always get a set of print and pull a permit when remodeling you home. It is a good thing that you want to be involved in your project. I do have some reservation about the electrical work. There is a lot at risk with doing the work yourself. If the house burns down you will never get the insurance money, unless your a certified electrician. Now of days 90% of home fires are blamed on electrical problems because the insurance company is to lazy and cheap to investigate the true problem. Also find out if the city you live in will allow you to perform the work. Make sure you coordinate your subs to have the proper time and space to perform their job. You don't want people working on top of each other. If you order all you materials make sure everything is there before you start your project. Have your subs check for proper and full items to be installed. Make sure every sub has a working set of prints. Make sure you have all the demo done before your subs show up to work. Schedule your plumber first, do any final framing or electrical work while you wait for inspection. Electrical inspection next followed by framing, insulation, and wallboard. All subs must get a final inspection on the job before you (the GC) can call in your final inspection.
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The answer depends on your contract.  If you do not have a written contract, you need to begin documenting everything.  Begin by using a calendar and marking the days the contractor started, worked, you had to speak to him/her about the work, etc.

Next photograph the work you feel is sub-par.  If work has been corrected, photograph it now to have a record of its condition.  If you have any "original" or "before work began" pictures get those together, too.

If you do have written contract, see what it says about warranties, complaints, failure to finish / comply, etc.  Holding the money may end up with the contractor taking YOU to court for the funds - you cannot just hold the money.  You need to document in writing what is wrong, what you expect to happen (be specific) and when it should happen by.  A good contract will explain if and how money can be held, how the arbitration or complaint is filed, etc.

You should also invite another contractor to come in and bid the work to finish the job.  They can confirm the quality of the work and give you a price to fix / finish the job.  This gives you justification for holding the funds and an option to finish the job.

If the contractor is not willing to fix the work or listen to direction, do not allow them back in the house.  A judge will ask you why you let them continue to do work if you found it unacceptable.  Take back the key or access to the building - you can also attempt holding any materials or tools as collateral if the cost of repair is higher than the amount owed.  Again, document what you are holding, its estimated value (google or ebay search), etc.

Finally, in writing you should fire the contractor and state the exact reason(s).  Document everything; if it is done in person after they leave make notes of what was said, agreed upon and disputed.  If you are satisfied that what you have paid is fair compensation for the work done, make sure this is noted in the letter firing the contractor.  If you feel money is owed, you will need to file a small claim in your local court.  Include the documentation you made, notes, letters, etc. when you file your claim so the judge will have a copy of everything.  Don't forget to contact the BBB.

Do not wait for the court date; go ahead and hire the other contractor and have the work completed.  Bring this invoice to court with you (file it before the court date if you can).  Bring photos of the finished work (again, file it with the court before the date if possible).  You must show what good quality work looks like vs the poor quality work.

Otherwise it will be a your word against the contractor and you will most likely lose, (the contract is a promise to pay for work) or even if you "win" you will most likely split the difference between the argued amount of money.  Also be prepared for the contractor to file a small court claim against you.  Same process as above, except now you will respond to the summons with a copy of your stuff to defend your reason for holding funds instead of asking for money back.

Good luck!
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Yes, you can ask for these items.  Second Century Homes answered your question well - most contractors do not do a break down to prevent haggling on items that shouldn't be part of the discussion.  People sometimes forget to allow the builder to make money. . .  Builders also want the entire job, not the nickle and dime menu selected items - you may find the contractor says "Thanks, but no thanks" if you ask them to remove portions of the work.

The real question is why do you need this break down?  If you are thinking you will do the demo yourself to save money, you can certainly tell your contractor this - but I would be willing to bet once you buy or rent the tools, haul the trash to the correct disposal dump (many trash dumps will not take home building materials anymore) and clean up / prep for the new work - you will have spent more and delayed the project more than just letting the professionals do it. Plus, do not be surprised when they still have to do additional demo work that you didn't know would be needed to complete the job, etc.

Also keep in mind that cutting portions of the work out of the job to do later is not a money saving move.  You will find that the cost for the individual items go up when done seperately - the contractor has to come back multiple times, has to set the equipment back up, possibly pull seperate permits, schedule the work crew / subs, etc.

If you are asking for the break down to compare bids, then again, tell the contractors what numbers you want to see.  If you are doing it because you feel the total price is too high, have a discussion with your contractor; they may be able to suggest ways to save costs, etc.  Ultimately if you know the materail costs, and have the total figure, you can do a pretty good estimate of the percentage for labor and profit in the job.

It is your project and your contract, so you can ask for anything you want on the quote - just be clear on why you want the information so the contractor can work with you.

Good luck!

Home Improvement Store reviews in Argyle

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It was a long process, as it took us a while to pick out the wood. The first flooring they laid down was softer wood, but the contractors let us know and gave us time to choose a type that would better suit our needs. Once the new wood came in, everything went smoothly, and we're very happy with the results.
- Rob M.
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I bought the first pedestal sink from Lowe's, because I have an account there. The licensed and very experienced plumber nearly cut his hand off when he tried to tighten the lag bolt into the wall and the porcelain cracked. I wasted time returning it and getting a refund and the plumber had to reschedule for another day after I'd gotten another sink. Waste of time and money! Then when I was looking around Lowe's and talking to the very unhelpful plumbing guy, I decided I didn't want to make the same mistake twice on a cheap sink. So then it was 'buy local' and 'buy from a store that is an actual plumbing store.'
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is right down the street and I stopped in. Bingo. Exactly what I needed and it was actually cheaper than Lowe's - the
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saw that the sale had expired but she gave it to me anyway, as the stated price was still attached. Very pleasant interaction, knowledgeable staff. And when the plumber opened the box, he said, "oh yeah. This is better." He could tell right away that the design for attaching the sink to the wall was superior and the porcelain was better quality.
I also had a good experience with
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buying light fixtures. They had quality schoolhouse light fixtures, minus the hand-painted stripe, for less than half Rejuvenation's fixtures.
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will be my default plumbing and electrical store from now on.
- KATHY F.
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I ordered the range online. I was very pleased with the selection. I was looking for a specific range and I found it on sale, with a chrome finish for the same price as the cheaper finish I was going to settle for. I was given a delivery date and time. They arrived and installed the
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with no additional charge for installation.I now have a beautiful chrome finish range.
- RACHELL T.
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It's close to my house. They have a friendly staff. They are very helpful when you find something. It's a pretty large store. It's well-organized. It's a clean store. Overall, it's a nice store. I think they're reasonable. I don't think they're the least expensive. I use them because of convenience. They don't always have everything a small hardware store has.
- Matthew K.
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Salesman did a good job "selling"
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", but did not follow-up to see if job was progressing as planned. Job took over a year to complete, but required many phone calls about deficiencies. The installers do not work for
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, but are private contractors. The windows appear to be high quality and installation seems very good, but it took a lot of work and pain on our part to get job completed. For example, obscure glass was used in the family room while clear glass was used in the bathroom. After several phone calls and delays, they finally corrected the problem. I would not use
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for this type of work again..
- Joseph S.
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We have very uneven land, and we wanted to put in an electric fence. We rented a mini excavator to clear some trees and make the land more passable. The equipment showed up right on time. As soon as it got here it started to jump off the track. No problem
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sent a couple of guys right out and fixed it. My brother noticed that the machine has not been greased. So the guys greased it. The machine worked very well and did the job. The main problem seem to be the machine hadn't been maintained like I would have expected. We rented a thumb attachment (which hadn't been greased) and it kept sheering the bolts off so we had to stop using it. Lights and horn didn't work on the machine. All this may seem like a lot but it didn't affect the over progress we made, and you cant beat the price. Overall very happy!!!! In one weekend we managed to get everything done we needed to so we can put up our fence! I would without a doubt rent this exact same equipment again, and would be very happy!
- Brenda H.
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The quality was good, but the process was terrible. A job that should have taken four days took over a month and a half due to the very poor scheduling by the vendor. Further, the contractor said mid-job that the plumbing would cost $600 more than the bid, but he would be willing to split the cost with me. Since the plumbing was quoted after the contractor visited our house twice, and the issue he claimed was new was actually already known, I was not willing to pay extra. I called
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management and explained the situation, and then
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dealt with the contractor. I did not pay more than the initial quote.
The bottom line: The service was so bad that it didn't compensate for the good quality. And it wasn't a particularly good price - I could probably have done better buying the merchandise from
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(or other store) and found my own contractors to do the installation. I won't use
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again for a home improvement project.
- Sandra G.
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The dishwasher itself was fine, but we had also ordered the installation service. They arrived at 7am on Saturday to do the installation. Within about 1-2 minutes, they tried to leave saying I didn't have the right plug and they'd have to reschedule the install. I asked them why it wasn't included in the installation kit and they told me they couldn't help since they don't work for
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(but some contractor). I then asked if I could leave for 10 minutes and buy whatever plug I was supposed to have (it only cost $5), they said no. As they were leaving, I asked them to please just walk me through how to get the plug off the old washer and on to the new. They said they'd try.
That only took 1 minute. Not sure why they made an issue of it. I literally just took a screwdriver and switched it.
Anyway, about 5 minutes later, they said they couldn't do the install because the pipe was blocking a nut they needed to access. After going back and forth for about 10 more minutes, they finally just left. They pushed the old washer back into place and it wouldn't close any more. So I had to run out and knock on their window for them to come in and fix that before they drove off.
So we were without a working dishwasher and I accepted the delivery since I didn't want to wait another week or so for a few other hacks to come do the same thing.
We ended up hiring a plumber (
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& Sons) to come do the install. It cost me much more than the $79
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was charging, but at least the job was done.
The plumber from
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& Sons says this happens all the time. They sub the work out so we don't really have anyone to yell at. I had to call 4 times to get a refund on the
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install and then they rejected my review on their site.
So, needless to say, I won't be using their install services again.
- Jonathan K.

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