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"I have been working with them for 15 years. They are honest, do very good work and are fast. They are professionals- they come in and get the job done in a big hurry." They always get their estimates and I have never had an issue with them.

-scott H.

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"Horrible customer service. Lights and fans ordered arrived broken. The wrong light bulbs came with them and they lied about delivery times and ordering,
" . I would never use this company again. Their customer service was so poor that they basically did not care about the end user at all. It took them forever to replace broken parts and deliver the right light bulbs. Failure to answer phone calls and requests for service started with the technician and then when trying to get a supervisor involved for better customer service forget it. The company does not believe in customer service and it goes up the chain of command. Just don't go there.

-Kelly K.

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THE Cost of the recessed light is largly determinate on Where ,You purchase the product and the number you buy .Big Box dicount stores have products made oversea's that are less expensive than those found at Custom Bath & Kitchen Stores , but the products are often riddled with problems , missing parts , defects etc,

 

A typical light will run $ 35.00 to $ 85.00

 

However , the true cost of recessed lighting is involved in getting circuits or circuity to the switch and lighting system .In NEW construction , this matter is easily dealt with by installing circuits and   hardware during framing . Whereas , with remodeling , installing new lighting into existing spaces , requires wall & ceiling opening ,closure , repair , repainting & finishing

 

I have been involved in projects where the lighting cost but $500.00 ,,

while the installation & finishing costs exceeded $ 2500.00

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Here is about the same question (for 1 fan) a while back, with answer:

http://answers.angieslist.com/how-cost-install-ceiling-fan-ceiling-light-exists-q46721.aspx

Your total cost could be from 1.5-3 times that shown in the answer, depending on how much of the wiring for the three fans he can combine - i.e. can he easily run one power circuit for all 3 fans, then just tap off that for switches and runs to the fans, are they fans only or with lights (double the wiring and switches), etc. Note the costs do NOT include drywall/panelling repair or painting to match. Also, you are going to be near the top end of the estimates, because in all probability your access is poor, and 3 fans are almost certain to require a totally new run from the breaker box.

Unless you have an open exposed-joist attic above where the fans are to go AND the top of the walls the switches will go in, you can expect substantial holes in walls and ceiling to pull the wires and fasten them - by code, you cannot just pull wires between joist and let them lie on the top of the ceiling drywall - you have to staple them to joists every few feet, so you end up with several 1-2 foot holes typically near top of the wall (to drill through top plate), near side of ceiling to grab and bend wire coming up wall, and maybe one mid-ceiling to reach in and fasten wire, then of course the two openings that are ultimately fully concealed by the switch plate and the fan mounting plate or dome.

Before you get into this project I would check with the condo management if you are allowed to do this - there are limits to how much you can modify your condo and how much you can modify or add in the way of electric circuits.

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Ahhhh - the light bulb comes on - but I didn't see the rabbit - it must have made it down the hole. Was I right about you upgrading the bulbs from a lower wattage, and that is when they started going out ?

 

I seriously doubt it is the track, from what you say and especially since the one head works fine at various places along the track. My guess - because these are apparently 110V track but 12V transformer INSIDE the head that mounts to the track, I would say it is the transformer overheating - a VERY common thing with modern electronics and cheap transformers from China. Commonly they have a thermal protector that cuts out when overheated, but overheating 2 or 3 times is normally fatal for them. I bet the transformers have fried, and that even the ones still working are smoked and probably have deformed plastic around them.

 

The unit is rated to 75W max, and the bulbs you have are 75W and of a design that provides little airflow around them (zero if you are using the glass cover plates for the heads) and has a lot of heat in the upper portion of it - in my opinion just another dumb design. I will give 10:1 odds there are not air holes in the top of the heads either - UL should ban that practice. 

 

Personally, if it were all new I would return it all for my money back right off. Since the track and some heads are old and you are invested in them already, I would gather up receipts and eMail the manufacturer about the issue, and the number of heads that have gone out (old and new combined) and see what they say. I would suspect they will offer to at least send replacements if you send the receipts and bad heads. I would then return any unused bulbs for credit to wherever you got them, and get different bulbs. You will have to ask the manufacturer if the transformer circuitry can handle MR16 GU5.3 base LED bulbs - Amazon has them, if your heads can take them - will run a LOT cooler. Otherwise, 50 Watt Halogen bulbs should fit and might run cool enough to not overheat ?

 

With transformers in the heads, I would use LED bulbs if compatible with transformer and circuitry.

 

BTW - you did not say if you tried the "dead" bulbs in the "good" heads - my guess (do just a short test) is they will work, and the bulbs are not the problem at all - it is the transformers.

 

Your other option. and what I would do unless you are attached to this style fixture or it is mounted to ceiling permanently and you do not know how to change it (or don't want to), so would cost about $125 for an electrician to come out: is to get what you can in refund from the manufacturer (or distributor, if they have good defect return policy), scrap the whole system, and save a LOT of money in the long run on energy costs by going to a 120V CFL or LED bulb system. Use LED if this is a short-term use system, or CFL only if one that will be on for many hours at a time - they burn out quick in frequent short use applications, but go seems like forever in long term use. I have one 60W (equivalent) GE CFL that I use as a nightlight but stays on 24/365 and has been on continuously for over 4 years without burning out. A number of identical ones we tried in applications where they were only on for a few minutes at a time went back under warranty after in a few months. If you are looking for a true "spot" light, then I recommend LED anyway, unless you don't like their "artificial" light.

 

Here is the info sheet on your unit, with company contact info at bottom:

http://www.noralighting.com/uploads/specs/NTL-202_2202.pdf

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Depends a tremendous amount on access - if accessible from exposed-joist in attic above, then you might get this for about $300-500 or so for the wiring and installation, plus $200-400 for the materials and dimmer switches, plus the cost of the light fixtures themselves. Probably about $100-150 to repair ceiling if single hole for one fixture, to $200-300 if existing trough-type flourescent fixtures. Painting the repair could be $100 - 250 depending on whether he can match the patch, or has to repaint the entire ceiling to get a uniform effect - which is more common in kitchens, which usually have untextured ceilings and gloss paint. Another alternative it is have the hole patched and prime and plain paint it yourself, then cover the area with a decorative emblem or crest to avoid having to repaint the whole ceiling. Personally I would just put a compatible style fixture in its place, which you might or might not choose to use, so you avoid the cost of repairing the hole and painting entirely, as that is "lost" $.

If the kitchen/dining room ceiling is not accessible from above, then the electrician will have to tear into wall and ceilings, so installation labor might go to $400-600, and drywall reapir and painting probably to about $400-600, depending on how many holes the elecrtrician has to put in and assuming entire surface painting to get a uniform paint look on each disturbed wall or ceiling.

One possibility for savings might be low voltage lighting for some of the kithcen fixtures, which might reduce your wiring cost and number of holes if you do not have attic access.

Be careful on the dimmable LED bulbs - be aware that dimmable bulbs generally cost a lot more, and many brands don't perform well in dimming mode because they are designed to run at a constant voltage, and a lot will not dim past about 40% power before they flick out or start flickering. Some will actually fry the electronics and burn up at lower voltage. Also, there are three different types of dimmers and different bulbs need a different type dimmer switch, so you will have to be careful to always buy the right type bulb, and use all the same type bulb in a given circuit. Here is an article on the types of problmes you can have with LED dimming, even with bulbs designed to be dimmed -

http://www.lutron.com/en-US/Education-Training/Pages/LCE/DimmingCFLsandLEDs.aspx

Lighting Installation reviews in Washougal

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As soon as they came in he immediately tried to upgrade me to an
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package. I informed him I was not interested. It was ok they only had a B rating. He faked the whole thing and rigged it himself. I felt that I was conned and he scared me. I never had an electrical short before. I upgraded my package with them. They showed up on time and they did clean up but I still was not happy only because I felt that he staged the whole thing. One week later one bulb blew out and I did not bother contacting them again. I checked it myself and replaced the bulb. The guys were nice and respectful. They did a lot of good things but I did not like how he staged the short and he scared me and tried to con me into buying surge protection for my electric panel.
- Paula S.
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Receptionist informed me company would call 30 minutes before scheduled appointment on 3/17/15 that was scheduled between 2-4pm. Employees were banging on the door at 12:45 pm with no call before hand. Also wanted access to inspect my electrical box as a courtesy. Advised would think further about using this service provider.
- Janice K.
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I attempted to contact
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5 times and only spoke to someone with company only once. He stated will call tomorrow to set up appointment. Never received a call back. I have also sent emails and no response.
- Janice K.
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arrived when he said he would and was fully prepared to take care of the rewiring. Working in the attic was a dirty and difficult job but
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never complained or said it couldn't be done.
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got it done and tested the fan before he left. My Mom was quite pleased and glad that the attic fans were fixed before a fire could've started in the attic of her house. I've already asked
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to work on another wiring project in the garage.
- Vicki B.
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I was not at the house when the work was performed but the technician was able to send me pictures prior to installing the lights. The work came out good and I would recommend them.
- Mrunal P.
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I am very happy with all aspects of this project. The journeyman (
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) and his helper worked very fast and the completed work exceeded my expectations. They were timely, courteous, professional and provided high quality service for a very reasonable price. I highly recommend them.
- Russell P.
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The contractor Bill
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did not give an estimate of the work after repeatedly asking him for it.
He did not return calls. Had two appointments with him and he never showed up.
A professional person would have better responsibilty if they want to stay in business.
Angie's list should never promote contractors who are not responsible.
One good thing I never paid any money up front.
- Thurman G.
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Installed ceiling fans with individual hand controls was a very nice and clean guy.
- Kathleen A.

All Lighting Companies in Washougal, WA

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A Reliable Handyman

PO Box 823331
Vancouver

ADVANCE SERVICE & REPAIR INC

4207 NW 131ST ST
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19785 SW Cipole Rd

AMERICA'S FIRST CHOICE INC

PO Box 188
Washougal

Angela Todd Designs

1702 SW Vista Avenue

Aquifer Plumbing LLC

5503 SW Multnomah Blvd

Badger Electric

4415 NE Sandy Blvd

Boulder Falls Landscape

15504 NE 62nd St
Vancouver

Bridgetown Electric

5701 N Lombard St

Built Stout Construction

2348 N O St
Washougal

Bullseye Electric

2625 NE 65th Avenue
Vancouver

Byrd Construction Company

2514 NE 87th Ave
Vancouver

C & K Custom Remodeling

3560 NE 120th Ave

C. Harold Construction

3675 SE Center St

CALL CLAPSHAW

3003 NE 276TH AVE
Camas

Calvin & Jobs Home Repair LLC

408 S. Maple Ave
Yacolt

Cascade Valley Construction

12447 Military Rd
Rainier

CCC Remodeling & Handyman Services

2710 NE 115th St
Vancouver

Cedar Star NW LLC

1115 SE 283rd Ave
Camas

Cherry City Electric

1596 22nd St SE

CHOWN HARDWARE

333 NW 16TH AVE

City Home Improvement

8811 NE Sandy Blvd

Classic Copper Works

9337 Spring Cypress Rd

Collectors-Outlet

76 Pulaski St

Compass Electric LLC

9305 NE 14th Way
Vancouver

Conduit Electric

19461 SW 89th Ave

CONSTRUCT DESIGN LLC

3720 SW BAIRD ST

CONTOUR LANDSCAPING INC

12485 SW TOOZE RD

Cooper Design Builders

720 NE Flanders St Ste 200

Cordova Electric

13103 NE 28TH ST
Vancouver

Creekscape Design, LLC

4305 SW 185th Ave

Creekside Electric Inc

18711 NE 29th Ave.
Ridgefield

Current Home Technologies, LLC

2306 Main Street
Vancouver

D & D Home Interiors

3315 NE 112th Ave Space #31
Vancouver

D&R Electric

13215 SE Mill Plain Blvd
Vancouver

Dan Hunt Construction

656 Chapman Rd
Castle Rock

DAVID L SULLIVAN HANDYMAN

5914 N DELAWARE AVENUE

DC2 Construction Inc

3412 NE 127th St
Vancouver

Decorating Den Interiors

PO Box 65935
Vancouver

DENNIS' SEVEN DEES LANDSCAPING

7355 SE JOHNSON CREEK BLVD

Design Doctors Construction LLC

3110 NE Minnehaha St
Vancouver

DirectBuy of Indianapolis

8450 Westfield Blvd

Douglass Carpentry & Construction LLC

10311 SE 14th Cir
Vancouver

Drake's 7 Dees Landscaping

5645 SW Scholls Ferry Rd

EATON GENERAL CONSTRUCTION

99 W HISTORIC COLUMBIA RIVER HWY

Eccles Electric

24824 S Newkirchner Rd

EcoBest Home Improvements

8415 NE 8th Ave
Vancouver

Edelen Doors & Windows

700 NE 102nd Ave

Electrical Doctor

7206 NE 47th Ave.
Vancouver

Exstream Landscaping

11030 SE 92nd Ct

Fix the World

pobox 822795
Vancouver

GARNER ELECTRIC

2920 SW BROOKWOOD AVE

GKA Lighting Inc

2335 SE 50th Ave

GM Construction Inc Of Washington

12518 SE 24th St
Vancouver

GORDON'S FIREPLACE SHOP

3300 NE BROADWAY

GruntWorks

8630 SW Scholls Ferry Rd

Handyman Crew LLC

1900 NE 134th Ave
Vancouver

Handyman Matters

7350 SW Landmark Ln

Haskin Electric Inc

5317 NE St Johns Rd
Vancouver

Hecox Repair & Remodel LLC

10205 NE 128th Ave
Vancouver

HOME DEPOT

8601 NE ANDRESEN RD
Vancouver

Homemasters

7225 SW Bonita

HOMETOWN HEARTH AND GRILL

9801 SE 82nd Ave.

HONEY DO HOME REPAIR LLC

4015 NE 138TH AVE
Vancouver

Hudnut Company

11916 NE Sumner St

Ida York Interior Design

11845 SW Greenburg

Imagine Energy

2409 N Kerby Ave

In Your Home

16869 SW 65th Ave

James Poggi Inc

1319 SE MLK Blvd

JARMER ELECTRIC

5105 SW 45TH AVE

Jet Heating

1935 Silverton Rd NE

JLA Enterprises LLC

16735 S Archer Dr

JOLMA ELECTRIC LLC

P.O. BOX #829
Battle Ground

L E Burgess Inc Remodeling & Renovations

22511 NE 227th Ave.
Battle Ground

Lacamas Electric

14812 NE 90th St
Vancouver

LADA Enterprises Inc

16556 Lower Boones Ferry Rd

LakeShore Design Studio, LLC

12211 NW 36th Avenue
Vancouver

Landservices, Inc.

30033 NW Evergreen Rd

Lanphere Construction & Development

13625 SW Farmington Road

LARRY'S LIGHTING REPAIR

3302 SE DIVISION ST

Laura's Designs

405 East Mission Street

LED Trail

3479 NW Yeon Avenue

Liberty Electric

11774 SE Jennifer Street

Lightlite

2627 NW Nicolai st

Lo's Contracting, Inc.

4110 NE 122nd Ave

Louis Marshall Jensen

12000 sw Fulmar ter

Lowe's Home Improvement

11413 NE 76th St
Vancouver

Mac Electric Inc

PO Box 1719
Battle Ground

MACDONALD MILLER

7717 DETROIT AVE SW
Seattle

MasterPro Service Inc

61115 Parkwood Ct

MAUGHAN DESIGN INC

1910 NW LOVEJOY

Mc Coy Electric Co Inc

2014 SE 9th Ave

Metro's Best Electric

17031 SE Stark St

Mike's Handyman Services

6903 Indiana St
Vancouver

MODERN MAINTENANCE SYSTEMS INC

4310 NE 56TH ST
Vancouver

Monaghan's Landscaping

7925 SW Canyon Ln

New World Inc

3439 NE SANDY BLVD STE 689

NW ANTLER DESIGN

PO BOX 553
Waitsburg

Oakley Electric

4120 SE International Way

On the Spot Handyman

11617 NE 16th St
Vancouver

One Touch Audio Video

17997 NW. Evergreen Pkwy.

Orient Electric

30532 SE Bluff Rd

Outside Renovations Inc

2162 42nd St
Washougal

PAC NW Structures LLC

4404 SW Coronado St

PARR LUMBER

6400 E 18TH ST
Vancouver

PARR LUMBER

6250 NE MLK BLVD

Parr Lumber

5630 NW Century Blvd

PHOENIX ELECTRIC

P.O BOX 14037

PIONEER FENCE DECK & SUPPLY CO

11318 NE HWY 99
Vancouver

Portland Electric Company

7975 SW 165th Avenue

Powerhouse Construction

16585 SW Woodcrest Ave

Praetorian Sight and Sound Inc

13970 SW Allen Blvd.

Prairie Electric Inc

6000 NE 88th St
Vancouver

PRECISION HOMES & REMODELING

9655 SW Sunshine Ct Ste 100

Quadrant Systems

437 SE Martin Luther King Blvd

Qualified Electricians

15937 NE Airport Way

RAMOS CLEAN UP

6597 SW 192ND AVE

Red Letters Enterprises Inc

13023 NE Hwy 99 PMB # 20
Vancouver

Rich's Repair All

17611 NE 188th Ct
Brush Prairie

Richart Family, Inc.

14600 NE 20TH AVE
Vancouver

Roller Electric Company

PO Box 820206
Vancouver

RR Custom

14308 NE Powers St.
Vancouver

RSD Construction

4275 SE Russell St

S O S Handyman Service

14605 SE 9th Street
Vancouver

Sage's Siding Inc

7025 SW 78th Ave

SCOTT DIRECTOR'S

9340 SW BEAVERTON HILLSDALE

Shelter Building & Design

109 w 44th st
Vancouver

Skandia Remodeling

11933 S E Sunny Way

SKYLINE CONTRACTING LLC

4315 SE CRYSTAL SPRINGS BLVD

Solace Design

3001 NE 163rd CT
Vancouver

Solarian US

2617 Saint Davids Lane

Square 1 Electric

10117 SE Sunnyside Rd

Square Deal Remodeling

8603 SE Stark St

SQUIRES ELECTRIC INC

657 SE Yamhill St

Stark Art Glass

36 Dalton St

Straight Line Siding & Construction Inc

20917 NE 72nd Ave
Battle Ground

Ten Day Kitchens LLC

6663 SW Beaverton Hillsdale Hwy

TERA CONSTRUCTION LLC

372 NW 179TH AVE

Terra-Sol Landscaping

11640 SW Myslony St

The Lamp Doctor

20140 SW 112th Ave

The SHIR Corporation

9411 NE HWY 99 Ste. 1
Vancouver

Three Rivers Custom Decks

23885 S Mountain Terr

TICE ELECTRIC CO

5405 N LAGOON AVE

TnT BUILDERS INC

35897 BRYANT DR SW

Tom Miller Remodeling, Inc.

3636 SE Glenwood Street

Total Light Design

15101 NW 1st Ave
Vancouver

Trademark Home Services

15445 Old Richmond Rd

Varo Interior Design

3557 NE Franklin Loop
Camas

VPE Electrical Services

8317 NE 126th Ave.
Vancouver

WATER-RITE INC

16505A SE 1ST pmb #97
Vancouver

WEBB ELECTRICAL CO

PO Box 70866

Wire Nutz Electrical Services, LLC

13023 NE Hwy 99
Vancouver

WOODY'S CUSTOM LANDSCAPING

13503 NE MOUNTAIN VIEW DR
Battle Ground

YOUNG ELECTRIC

9999 SW Wilshire St Ste 221

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