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I agree with Jim Casper - after about 50 years of dealing with weathered wood finishing both in my homes and in the construction business, it comes down to about 90% preparation, 10% the finishing. If you do not prep the wood right, any moisture, mold, etc in the wood will destroy whatever you put over it.

High-build finishes like paint and epoxies and, from reading the Rustoleum flyer on this new product that too, work by trying to make an impenetrable surface and depend on a very good bond with the surface, AND no water getting under them. Because they are thick and are designed to provide a waterproof surface, unfortunately where water gets under them they are just as good or better at keeping it from evaporating, so you get fungal growth, blistering, and peeling.

Unfortunately, on deck and most outdoor applications except siding the surface will get nicked, scratched and otherwise develop leaks in short order. Water will therefore get into the underlying wood, and because it entered through small cracks and scratches, does not have any airflow to make it evaporate, so it sits there and breaks the finish bond to the wood (causing peeling and blisters), and promotes decay. That is why new deck boards and siding and trim that have been heavily or multi-coat painted on all 4 sides, thinking that will give the best protection, only last a few years versus the usual 10-20 years or so for boards that are painted top and sides only.

The full sun and hot conditions will, of course, cause more thann normal heating of dark colored painted decking. I had one instance where I was doing an independent appraisal of a very large commercial deck at a government facility, and in 85-90 degree daytime temps, in the sushine the chocolate brown deck surface temp was 150 degrees, and the paint was softening so much it stuck to the bottom of your shoes a couple of months after application.

As Jim said, the studies pretty clearly show that a breathable penetrating stain gives the best life, after plain ACA/CCA (copper chromium variations - the green stuff) treated wood. Penetrating stains, properly applied, do NOT seal in the moisture, they inhibit its entry and (when dark colored) help protect against sun damage to the wood and finish, but still breathe enough to let moisture escape on dry days. For my money, I will only use petroleum distillate (paint thinner cleanup) products, as they penetrate into the wood much better. Water based ones immediately start swelling the wood pores, so it blocks further penetration of the stain, which while cleanup is a bit easier, totally defeats the purpose of a PENETRATING stain or sealer.

I would recommend against any sort of waterproofing sealer, as they trap the water just like paint, and I have never seen one that is effective for 2 years.

My personal preference, though it limits the architectural coloration possibilities, is ground-contact rated copper compound treated wood (NOT the Wolmanized brown product), which comes green initially but can be retreated with either green or brown solution or can be liquid colorized darker (though not easily to a specific tone) using either of those as a base. My practice is to redo the treatment before installation to ensure thorough treatment, as from the mill it commonly has skips where boards contacted each other or where stacking seperators laid on it, and the ends are commonly very poorly done. This is done after cutting to length, as cut ends have to be retreated anyway.  A simple short deck cleaner soak followed by a light pressure washing and brush or roller re-treating of ONLY the TOP surface every 10 years or so has, for me, reduced visible weathering of the boards and beams to negligible.

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As stated by others: You get what you pay for.  Many contractors no longer use employees.  The cost/benefit ratio is gone by the time worker's comp. insurance, unemplyment and other taxes are paid.  Especially with the high turnover in our industry.  Many, myself included, have our guys set up as sub-contractors.  That means even if the job is only for a day the duties have been outlined and a set pay to complete those duties has been established from the onset.  It's a better way to manage costs once I got used to it.  Also, it means I can operate cheaper and not have to charge as much to the customer.  My agreements with my guys, which they sign, make it clear that I nor the homeowner are responsible for their safety and medical care should a problem arise and that all parties are relieved of any such obligation.  If you hire a contractor who follows this growing practice ask to see a copy of his sub-contractor agreement.

That being said, a legitimate contractor still has operating cost which vary by area and how they run their business.  I break even at $150/day not including labor and materials so I've got to charge more than that to make money.  To keep the math simple, if I'm paying $250 for a pne day job in labor plus another $300 in materials and $150 operating costs I've got to charge $700 to the customer to break even.  That's if I'm only doing one job a day which is why most of us manage several at a time.  The point I'm trying to make is that someone with the necessary knowledge and experience to build you a safe deck is not going to be cheap.  Knowledge accompanies success which costs money.

I've repaired or restructured several decks built by handymen who should find another profession.  Ask yourself this question when hiring someone for this project: Would I trust this person to build my house?  If the answer is no you need to find someone else.  The deck is just as important.  It's where your family, friends, kids are going to gather and interact.  If it isn't structurally sound it can collapse causing injury or even death.  One last word on decks: Always screw a deck together, don't nail it.

Todd Shell
Todd's Home Services
www.thomeservices.com
San Antonio, TX
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Assuming you buy the right size door to fit the rough opening, and that your old door is not a size that is no longer made, and that you get the correct depth and transition adapters and sills and flashing and trim and seals and such, and that you transport it home without distorting and damaging it, then removal and disposal of old one and install new one probably about $250-400 depending on how well it fits, number of transition and similar pieces that have to be assembled (from 1 or 2 for some doors to as many as 30 on others).

The laundry list of things at the start WAS intended to intimidate you - I would say not 1 in 25 homeowners who buy a new patio door have bought it the right size for the rough opening and have everything needed to install it - the contractor almost invariably has to go get materials or parts to complete the installation - sometimes waiting weeks for factory adapters that are needed or missing parts AFTER the original door has already been taken out.

I would question why you are going to probably spend as much installing a door that may not do the job for you as the cost of the door. I would hazard at least half of people who go buy a $250-400 cheap door at a box store are sorely disappointed within months - due to poorly fitted parts, bad or non-existent seals causing drafts or water leaks, fogging or breaking glass, etc.

I would recommend you assess your needs, in conjunction with your installer find a decent and reputable brand unit to fit that need and that fits the loction right, and probably pay 50% more installed but have something that you might actually be happy with. Oh - BTW - your best installers generally will not install the cheapest box store units because they do not want the callbacks, so many times the quality of the installer who will actually do the job for you at a price you are willing to pay gives you a job that is - you guessed it, worth what you paid for it.

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The product has evolved considerably since the lawsuit.

 

I would still do your own research and give you contractor your feedback.  At the end of the day, the cost for whatever board you want will be similar. 

Deck Builders in Le Roy, NY

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1treehouse

2519 10th Street

A Best Construction Inc

87 Woodman Park
Rochester

ABRAZO CONSTRUCTION DESIG

58 HOGAN POINT RD
Hilton

Action Mechanical Services

PO BOX 26842
Rochester

Advanced Property Contractors LLC

230 Stonehenge Rd
Rochester

AFS General Contracting

8221 West Ridge Rd
Brockport

AJC Construction

80 Cambria rd.
Rochester

ALEXANDER ENTERPRISES

3777 RUSH MENDON RD
Mendon

Alltech Contracting, LLC

2951 GREIG STREET
Port Gibson

AMERICAN HOME REMODELING

20 ELLICOTT AVE
Batavia

APM INC.

Penfield

Ask Dan

55 LeGran Rd
Rochester

B B Painting and Powerwashing

86 Clark Ave
Rochester

Bap Architectural Svc

2142 Marshland Rd
Apalachin

BUTTARAZZI CONSTRUCTION INC

2344 LYELL AVE
Rochester

Cameron Home Improvement Group Inc

1173 Pittsford-Victor Rd
Pittsford

CastleView 3D

PO Box 18056
Rochester

Cedar home staining & restoration

1078 whiskey hill rd.
Waterloo

Champion Window of Rochester

12 Petra Ln Ste 1
Albany

CJK Contracting

Rochester

Comfort Windows & Doors

575 Ludwig Ave
Buffalo

COMPLETE PAINTING

320 N WASHINGTON ST
Rochester

Cornerstone Contracting of NY Corp.

630 East River Road
Rochester

CRAWFORD REMODELING

148 W. Hill Estates
Rochester

Creative Concepts

1741 Turkhill Rd
Fairport

Custom Cut

80 Birch Hills Dr.
Rochester

DD Home Rennovations

556 Heck Road
Spencer Port

DECKS BY DESIGN

Williamsville

DICA Inc

3281 Fairway 6
Macedon

DM HANDYMAN SERVICES

172 CEDARS AVE
Churchville

Don Hamblin Home Improvements, LLC

62 Farmbrook Dr
Farmington

DP Customs

436 Magnolia St
Rochester

Eagle Builders

395 Lake Rd West Fork
Hamlin

EC Home Renovations

137 East ivy st

Elevate Construction Inc

1000 S Fairfield Drive

EMPIRE ENCLOSURES, Inc.

3349 MONROE AVENUE
Rochester

Fine Line Home Design

298 Huffer Road
Hilton

Flower City Home Improvements

2278 Clifford Ave
Rochester

Fossil Rock Landscape

541 Trimmer Rd
Spencerport

Fuierer Home Improvements

16 Woodstock Lane
Brockport

George Emmel General Contr

30 Windigo Ln
Farmington

Gerlach Home Improvement

200 City View Dr
Rochester

Glidden Exteriors

83 Mayflower St
Rochester

GrandView Home Enhancements

1771 Auburn Rd
Seneca Falls

Greater Rochester Roofing

P.O. Box 26930
Rochester

Gutowski Construction Inc

93 Donna Marie Cir
Rochester

Hellenic Home Improvements

Westside Dr
Rochester

HERITAGE FLOORS & INTERIORS

62 W BEND DR
Rochester

Hill Painting, LLC

PO Box 331
Mount Morris

Honey Do Handyman Services

1217 Majestic Way
Webster

Huls General Contracting

5367 County Road 33
Canandaigua

Imperial Renovations

1065 W Sweden Rd
Brockport

Inside & Out Enterprises

29 Meadow Glen
Fairport

JCV Construction

860 Lakeshore Blvd
Rochester

JDL Home Improvements

217 Field ST.
Rochester

JEC Construction Inc

3713 Rush Mendon Road
Honeoye Falls

JEFF SHEAR HOMES INC

229 GALLANT FOX LN
Webster

JG Remodeling

19 wolff s

JGL DESIGN & ENGINEERING

2171 Monroe Ave Ste 207
Rochester

JZAY Driveway Sealers

40 Maxson Street
Rochester

KEN JONES CONSTRUCTION

11 FURMAN HTS
Fairport

kevin shamp home improvements

1183 lawrence rd hilton
Hilton

KNICKERBOCKER QUALITY STRUCTURES

2512 ANDERSON RD
Linwood

Kondolf construction

50 Webster Rd
Spencerport

L&L Masonry

652 stony point rd
Spencerport

LEE A NETTNIN

1756 APPLE HOLLOW LN
Hamlin

M&M Remodeling

9 Ashview drive
North Chili

Magnolia Outdoor Living

3522 Ashford-Dunwoody Rd.

Maria Construction

Chili Center
Rochester

Mass Construction

1965 Federal Rd
Linwood

Mead Homes

1024 Garson Ave
Rochester

MF Royer Construction

753 Blue Creek Drive
Webster

MLP General Contracting

33 Conrad Dr
Rochester

Morgan Construction

PO Box 92333
Rochester

Muscate Renovations, Inc.

70 Fairlawn Dr.
Rochester

New To You Remodeling

70 Heather Ln.
Rochester

Norbut Renovations

1241 University Ave.
Rochester

Nulook Group Inc

1367 Long Pond Road
Rochester

Oaks Construction

202 Hinkleyville Rd
Spencerport

Old School Tradesmen Inc.

168 Betteridge Rd
Churchville

On Cue

56 Fairlea Dr.
Rochester

P.H.I.

45 North St
Leroy

Philbrick Construction

66 Lavaine Way
Rochester

Pittsford Homes Inc

PO Box # 506
Victor

Precise Property Repair

112 Mountain Ash Drive

Premier Home Solutions

88 Country Downs Circle
Fairport

Prime Painting

97 Edinburgh Street
Rochester

Probech Construction Llc

29 E. CHURCH ST.
Fairport

RED WING CONSTRUCTION

4662 W LAKE RD
Canandaigua

Refresh Renovations

1006 Harvard St
Rochester

Reilly's Floor Restore

139 Stafford Street
Palmyra

Reliable Roofing & Siding

522 Woodbine Ave
Syracuse

Renaissance Man Home Services

102 stenson street
Rochester

Richard M Stocking

4 Pebble Creek Ln
Pittsford

Right Choice Construction

3542 vienna st
Palmyra

Rios Remodeling

PO Box 64412
Rochester

Robert G. Rose - Builder

299 Franlee Lane
Victor

ROCHESTER HOME IMPROVEMENT -RHI

1835 N Union St
Spencerport

Rochester Local Painting

229 Perkins Rd
Rochester

ROCHESTER REMODELING CENTER

2394 RIDGEWAY AVE
Rochester

Rochsters Flowercity Painting

72 valley circle
Rochester

S and K Construction

288 Armstrong Place

Scott Bengsch Painting

22 Southwick Dr.
Webster

Sharp Construction,LLC

1900 Empire Blvd
Webster

Small Building Specialist

854 Walker Lake Ontario Road
Hilton

Spin Doctor Home Improvement

82 Brookdale Park
Rochester

Stonewood & Waters

PO Box 501
Mendon

Suburban Remodeling Inc

290 Salt Rd
Webster

Sunset Maintenance LLC

3220 Lehigh St
Caledonia

Superior Stain

74 Harloff Road
Rochester

The Honey-Do Handy Woman

673 Whittier Rd
Spencerport

The Old House Company LLC

38 Murray St
Mount Morris

The Van Alstyne Company& Supply

17 Miller St
Rohester

THOMAS F BEACH General Contractor

253 SPRING ST
Caledonia

Thomas' Contracting

5599 S Holley Rd
Holley

Updegraff Development LLC

223 Gregory St
Rochester

VanVleet Construction

8416 DuPont ave n

VEKTON CORP

1829 PENFIELD RD
Penfield

View Construction

9 East Manitou RD
Rochester

WESTSIDE PROFESSIONAL LNDSCP

2565 Buffalo Rd.
Rochester

Wolf Construction

3223 Wiedrick Rd
Walworth

Wood Works By Anthony

444 St. Joseph street
Rochester

XTERIOR HOME IMPROVEMENTS

709 WALKER LAKE ONTARIO RD
Hilton

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