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"I got their number from Republic Plumbing Supply in Brookline. I was shopping around, thinking I could just simply replace the flue damper. However the real problem" was the ignition control module. I called them late morning and they showed up at around noon. There were 2 of them, so I was worried that I would be paying double. I called the office and got a defensive response, the plumber on the phone said "I said $135, didn't I?!". They charge $135 to show up and then parts and labor. I will try and update my post when I get an itemized receipt. The 2 plumbers that showed up were very courteous and explained to me what they were doing when they were troubleshooting. They didn't know how to wire the module, but I did have an identical one on my side of the house. I showed it to them and it worked. Billing and method of payment were confusing. They accepted credit cards, but not really. In the end I paid by check. I would use them in the future, however I do want to see paperwork that needs to be signed prior to the service to cover both parties. Everything was on the gentleman's handshake, everybody was honest with each other.

-Michael F.

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"Very reputable, knowledgeable and honest plumber. Tries to keep costs low for customer only doing what's necessary (I've had him in the past and he's" talked us out of doing unnecessary replacements). Doesn't take credit cards, though. Check or cash only.

-claudia M.

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Does your toilet gurgle? Are you hearing a "glug glug" sound? Have it checked out; a noisy toilet often signals a blockage in your residential plumbing system.

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From the sounds of it, you have a clog between the floor drain and the connection to the city sewer (unless you have a septic tank).  The lower flow rates of sinks / showers / dishwashers probable don't cause a backup like the washing machine does.  A couple of suggestions.

1.  Snake the drain line with a spade tip snake, twisting the snake as you advance it.  This should clear the partial blockage.

 2.  If feasable, have your washing machine discharge into a utility sink and put a strainer on the drain to catch the clothing fibre (fibres and grease from the sink probably made the clog in the first place not to mention a garbage disposal).

3.  Replace your floor drain with one that has a backflow preventer (looks like there is a ping pong ball in it).

 Good Luck

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It is not uncommon for a plumber to have to go get the parts necessary to repair and complete the job.  It is very hard to determine what the problem is over the phone and it is not until the repair process begins that the parts needed to resolve the problem is discovered.  It may also depend on if the plumber is using hourly rates or per job rates.  I would hope the time to get the parts would be minimal and the charge would be as well!
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FYI: CPVC and PEX are two different materials and installed differently.  PEX is not intended to be glued but instead has special crimp fittings.  PEX is a brand name of one product that is manufactured slightly differently by others as well so it is important that the same brand fittings are used to match the pipe material.

Mobile homes used CPVC for years and some still do.  It works fine but is not as strong as a properly soldered copper pipe system.  Is the contractor installing this new plumbing a licensed plumber?  I'd be surprised if he is since he's using CPVC and not PEX (or similar) or copper.  PEX pipe is even cheaper than CPVC when run by a knowledgable plumber.  It doesn't require nearly as many joints since it comes in rolls and can flex through spaces easily.

There are some groups raising a fuss about BPA and other chemicals found in plastics that don't like the use of CPVC, PVC, or PEX pipe.  I haven't seen the results of any lab tests to confirm or dispute their concerns.  As far as durability goes it's fairly safe as long as it's properly installed and secured.  It is not as susceptible to hard water damage as copper.  It absolutely must be insulated along it's entire length to protect it from contact to other materials as well as freezing.  Also, the fixtures in the house need to be grounded electrically since the pipe itself provides no electrical protection against accidental shock or electrocution.  In a copper plumbed house the system is grounded so static electricity, a short in a wire near a water line, or lightning strike will carry the current out through the pipe instead of through the water to you, ideally.

If it's installed correctly you should be fine but make sure the contractor knows what he is doing and follows the proper procedures to use CPVC pipe.

Todd Shell
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It is usually cheaper to remove part of the ceiling below and patch it after the leak has been repaired.  Remember that water can travel before settling in one area, causing the spot you've seen.  Just because it is below the toilet does not mean that the toilet is the problem.  The cheapest option is to pull the toilet and check the floor around the wax ring to see if it has been leaking.  A new wax ring only costs a few dollars.  When was the last time you caulked the shower in that bathroom?  The water can leak around the corners or at the door (if you have one) and travel along the floor joists until it pools in a lower spot on the ceiling below, then seep through.  It could also be a seal at the drain of the tub or shower. 

I get a few calls a year for this sort of thing.  It's usually something simple but can be a nightmare to diagnose, especially if the problem is intermittent.  Start with the simple possibilities and use deductive reasoning to narrow the possibilities.  Before you do a lot of damage it may pay off to hire a reputable contractor to help you make sure you've exhausted all of the imple and more obvious possibilities.

Todd Shell
Todd's Home Services
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The simple answer is ,"No!" The only way to effectively clean grease and scum from a drain line (or a neighborhood, jk) is with high pressured water. The machine they use is called a Jetter, many drain cleaning companies have them.
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Do you know the age of the existing valve?  Are you sure the existing valve is a ball valve and not a gate valve?  Gate valves notoriously fail after prolonged periods of being either open or shut.  The rubber washer breaks down or gets mineral build up on it and then it won't shut off.  Whether the valve is bad or not it's a lot cheaper to replace it while he's got the area dug up and working on those connections than having him return to dig it up and pull it all back apart again due to a leaking valve.  The valve will run around $20 and the pipe isn't much either (price depends on the type of pipe).  Labor is an few minutes so he likely isn't charging you any more in labor costs to put the new valve in than he would to do the rest of the work anyway.

Like Vern said, he has a minimum amount he has to charge to cover his costs and still make money.  Being a contractor of any sort is not cheap with all of the government regulation, higher fuel costs, tool costs, etc.  It probably costs him at least $200 a day just to be in business if he's a self employed independent.  More for someone with a shop and answering service, etc.  Most plumbers around here are going to charge at least $100/hour with a minimum charge.  It'll probably take him 2-3 hours to install everything so he's really not out of line.  You might be able to find someone a little cheaper but check their reputations.

Todd Shell
Todd's Home Services
San Antonio, TX

Drain Cleaning reviews in Independence

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The floor drain in the basement backed up again after having it serviced by another company on 9/17/14. I called A&J Drain Service on Sunday evening for service the next day.
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called ahead of the scheduled time and said he would be able to come early. Several key first impressions struck me: 1. he was early, 2. the service van is very nice and clean, 3. he put on shoe covers before coming into the house. He listened to my concerns and addressed them directly. He didn't try to sell me any additional services, which I really appreciate.
As for recommending their service again, I had that opportunity the very next day when a friend called and I told her that she would not be disappointed with A&J Drain Service.
- Christian H.
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My experience was really good. They were personable. Scheduling an appointment went well. There were two guys here doing the work. They did good work and I was happy they cleaned it all out.
- Abraham T.
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They tried to clear out the plumbing line the best they could but there were tree roots blocking some areas. They informed me of a one year warranty on the work done.
- Saeed Y.
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The technician was on time and very courteous. Asked me what the problem was. Explained what he was going to do and the reason why. I explained that the blower on the fireplace did not work either. When he checked it he discovered that the blower had been unplugged by the person that had serviced it about to years ago. At that time my wife was told it would cost about $700.00 to repair. Technician also showed me features on the fireplace that we did not know we had. He was very honest and wasn't trying to take advantage of my ignorance. I highly recommend this company.
- Ken M.
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technicians assessed the condition of our heating/AC system. Recommendations were made and adjustments were made to the system. Performance was improved. All staff was quite professional in every respect.
- Aaron H.
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They came in on a Saturday and flushed out the pipes and had us up and
running within an hour. Their response time was commendable and I felt
very secure in the information he provided and the diagnostics he
performed.
- Heather R.
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Plumber showed up at least an hour before the scheduled service. It caught me completely off guard because I was preparing to jump in the shower when I heard a knock at the door. Anyway, better to be early than late I suppose. The problem was quickly diagnosed, but plumber didn't have a needed part on his truck, so he had to leave for an hour to retrieve the part. I noted when he came and left, two and a half hours from the first time that he arrived to his departure. Work went well, as planned, but the cost of services is what my wife and I had a problem with. We both agreed that the charge seemed high, especially considering the time that was actually spent making the repair (an hour and a half at most). The total cost was originally $425, but after the service was performed, I was told a premium charge would also be added because I wanted to pay by credit card.
I later twice requested a copy of the plumber's invoice with parts and labor broken down, but never received a response. So I did a little research on my own. I learned that the replaced part generally should run about $150. Well, that means the labor was $275! That's $110 an hour, including the unproductive time spent driving to get a part. Most workmen, like an electrician I used recently, charge $110+/- for the first hour, then substantially less for time spent on the job after the first hour. I honestly believe I was charged about $100 more than I should have been, but feared we couldn't afford the prospect of going without water - especially considering that family was coming to stay with us two days later.
- Doug W.
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they identified the problem, researched the internet to find the appropriate replacement switch (because the fireplace is quite old so it was difficult to find parts), ordered it and scheduled installation with my tenant. Very professional and a good outcome.
- Kevin P.

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221 Construction LLC

1050 W Innovation Dr
Kearney

A & S Solutions

Kansas City

A W B HANDY HANDS RESOURCES

7212 S BENTON
Kansas City

Aarons Services

P.O. box 24085
Kansas City

AB May

7100 E 50th St
Kansas City

ABC Plumbing & Drain Cleaning

3404 N. Garfield Ave.
Kansas City

Accurate Dimensions Construction LLC

233 S.W. Greenwich Drive
Lees Summit

Advocate Master Plumbing

707 Northwest 16th Street
Blue Springs

Affordable Energy Solutions

4445 NE Blue Jay Dr.
Lees Summit

Affordable Home Repair LLC

7209 N Troost Ave
Kansas City

Affordable Plumbing & Sewer

9026 W. 64th Place #203

All Pro Plumbing

1213 N. Old Mill Rd.
Independence

All-n-One Plumbing & Drains

PO Box 520811
Independence

Allure Painting & Renovation

111 N 1st St
Blue Springs

Alpha Plumbing

713 W Mulberry St

Andy's Pipe Dream

15954 S Mur Len Road

Angel Services

3611 Olive St
Kansas City

Anthony Weir Plumbing & Remodel LLC

8404 E 105th St
Kansas City

ASAP Services

11800 Shawnee Mission Parkway Suite 22

B & L PLUMBING SERVICE INC

301 NW CENTRAL ST
Lees Summit

Barnds Companies

10000 W. 135th Street

Beemer Plumbing

23270 S Waverly Rd

Benjamin Franklin Plumbing

7748 Troost Ave
Kansas City

Bill's Drain Cleaning

10825 E 23rd St
Independence

BLUE LINE PLUMBING

13505 S MURLEN

Bob's Root'r Service

9105 E. 69th Terr.
Kansas City

Breckenridge Builders Inc.

2315 W 104th Terrace

Burkin Plumbing

50 North 74th St.

C&C Mechanical llc

901 Ute ave.

CHARLES G JAMES CO

3965 West 83rd

Collins Plumbing LLC

9203 Noland Rd
Kansas City

Dale's Services

1608 Speas Dr.
Blue Springs

Direct Plumbing

PO Box 423
Odessa

Drains R Us

401 NW Essex Dr.
Lee's Summit

Eric Scotts Plumbing and Baths

717 Woodson St.
Kearney

Everyday Mechanical Inc.

2616 NW 86th St
Kansas City

EW Plumbing LLC

15882 W 158th St

First General Services of Kansas City

708 NW R.D. Mize Road Suite J
Blue Springs

Fred The Handyman, LLC

504 Oak Drive
Raymore

Full Nelson Plumbing

8109 1/2 N Oak Trafficway
Kansas City

Gercken Construction Company

137 N Stewart Rd
Liberty

GOLDEN'S PLUMBING CO

211 NE LANDINGS CT
Lees Summit

GRT PLUMBING

19058 W 319TH ST

Handyman Barrett LLC

19419 Bryn Mawr Dr
Independence

Harbolt Plumbing, Inc.

12017 W 74th St

Hemenway Home Improvements LLC

23513 West 58th Street

Heritage Exterior Design LLC

124 N Prairie Street
Liberty

Home Tech Handymen

8920 N. Donnelly ave
Kansas City

Hudson Plumbing

23208 e us 24 hwy
Blue Springs

Hydro Physics Pipe Inspection

7823 N Park
Kansas City

J C PLUMBING

4915 N Beacon Ave
Kansas City

JASON TOPE PLUMBING

2526 S 47TH DR

JOE LILLIS PLUMBING

8415 W 113th St

JOHN R LESAN PLUMBING & HEATING CO

11803 S. SPAINHOUR RD
Lone Jack

Johnson County Home Service Plumbing

4011 Bonner Industrial Dr

JPS SEWER & DRAIN INC

PO BOX 592
Lees Summit

K.C. Drainworks

P.O.Box 1655
Independence

Kansas City Power Washing & Home Repairs

4140 Prospect Ave.
Kansas City

KC Home Solutions, LLC

804 N. Meadowbrook Dr

KC Metro Plumbing LLC

15621 W 87th St Pkwy

KCERW LLC

2809 N. Twyman Rd.
Independence

KEVIN GINNINGS PLUMBING SERVICES

903 LOCUST
Harrisonville

Kurt's Plumbing Inc

10729 West 109th ST

Kuzila Inc.

605 Central Avenue

LITTLE JOHN PLUMBING

315 E 70 TH ST
Kansas City

Lumberjack Construction Inc.

9431 Somerset Drive

Lutz Plumbing Inc

PO BOX 860483

Malnar Remodeling

7415 stearns

Malnar Remodeling

7415 stearns

MARIONIX INC

1401 WOODLAND ST.

MAYES PLUMBING INC

501 S McCleary Rd
Excelsior Springs

MEL Contracting

1040 NW S Outer Rd
Blue Springs

Metro Mechanical Services, Inc.

228 Marshall Road
Platte City

Midwest Heating Cooling & Plumbing

13228 Holmes Rd
Kansas City

Mr Plumber Inc

3057 Merriam Ln

Mr. Handyman of Kansas City North

6651 N Oak Trafficway
Kansas City

Mr. Rooter Plumbing of Kansas City

5415 Raytown Road
Kansas City

Nick Triano Plumbing

1650 Madison Ave
Kansas City

Parks Roofing and Renovations

3843 Montgall
Kansas City

Paxton heating and air

4138 ne kelsey rd.

Pete's Dependable & Quality Service

4506 S Osage St
Independence

PG Plumbing & Backhoe Service llc

7424 NW Oak Drive
Kansas City

PLUMBING PRO

26904 S STATE RTE C
Freeman

POOR JOHN'S PLUMBING

Kansas City, MO
Kansas City

Precision Plumbing

3245 Roanoke Rd
Kansas City

Pro-Plumbing Works LLC

2115 Robinson Ave.

Pryor Mechanical

221 NW 180th Street
Smithville

QUALITY PLUMBING INC

1731 HOWELL ST.
North Kansas City

QUICK RELIEF PLUMBING

P.O. Box 16109

R Mech Heating Cooling & Plumbing

1421 Wabash Ave.
Kansas City

Raytown Plumbing

PO Box 18575
Kansas City

Razor Rooter / Any-Time Sewer Service

3014 NE Excelsior St
Kansas City

Reddi Services

4011 Bonner Industrial Dr

Refined Remodeling

7223 W. 72nd St.

Rescue 1 Plumbing

PO Box 2039
Lees Summit

ReTouch Design-Build-Renovate

6025 Metcalf Lane, Suite 310

RICE PLUMBING SEWER & DRAIN

5401 Raytown Road
Kansas City

Segers Properties LLC.

7221 Troost Ave.
Kansas City

Sehorn Mechanical

9902 E 53rd St
Raytown

Shuler Enterprises

8510 Riley St

Snake 'N' Rooter

3370 NE Powell Rd
Lees Summit

Stouder Improvements

5910 N Euclid Ave
Kansas City

Suburban Home Services

312 E. 78th Terrace
Kansas City

The Plumber LLC

6916 Hardsaw Road
Oak Grove

The Plumbing Pro

12519 Blue Ridge
Grandview

Uttley Construction

120 S Darrowby Dr
Raymore

Val Gross Plumbing

603 East 23rd St
Independence

Village Plumbing

2912 W. 72nd St.

Z BEST PAINTING INC

7111 W 151ST ST

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