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" Very well, the contractor phoned and explained my situation. He requested that I authorize the work and then he can be more precise about the price. The price" was not reduced. He did the job he was contracted to do. The tech also suggested using a giological flush each month to prevent the future clogs. mily

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First - NOT full septic tank - if that was the case you would be getting backup of sewage into the lowest drains in the house, and possible very slow flushing or refusal to drain out of the bowl - the opposite of your case.

Second - I assume you are the owner. If a renter or on a lease, this type of problem may be the responsibility of your landlord, depending on the terms of your lease or rental agreement.

OK - two possible situations here - low water in BOWL, or low water in TANK. I am assuming your toilet flushes OK, with adequate water to clean out the bowl, and that it is a typical type toilet with a tank sitting on the back of the bowl. If this is not the case and it is a designer toilet or looks like those at public restrooms (no tank), then the BOWL answers still apply if it is initially refilling OK, but if not enough refill water coming in at all then call a plumber.

First, low water in the toilet BOWL case. If the water in the toilet BOWL is low after flushing, I see four likely causes, in order of most likelihood -

1) the fill valve is not putting enough water into the toilet bowl. If you take the top off the tank, you will see a small hose (typically black plastic) coming from the fill valve (a vertical mechanism, usually at left side of tank, that the incoming water tube or flex hose connects to the bottom of on the bottom side of the tank). While the tank is refilling after a flush, a steady but not large flow of water flows through this fill tube and down into a vertical pipe or tube (usually brass or plastic and about 3/4 inch diameter, which stands almost full height of tank). The small tube puts water into this pipe, from where it flows into and refills the toilet bowl. This is also the overflow tube, which keeps the tank from overflowing if the fill valve fails to shut off. If the fill valve has a problem or the fill tube has a blockage, it may not be letting enough water into the bowl. Also, check the tube is actually pointed down into the overflow tube - if the clip came loose, rusted away or broke, then it may just be filling the toilet tank rather than the bowl. Check that a steady flow (will not be a real foreceful jet) of water is flowing out of this tube into the overflow pipe while the toilet tank is refilling. You should also see the bowl filling up at this time. If it come in but does not fill high enough because it does not run long enough, some fill valves have an adjustment - check fill valve manufacturer website for instructions. Others just have to be replaced - doable if you are handy at home repairs (see web videos on how to do it), or call a plumber for probably about $150-200 to replace fill valve (have him replace the flapper valve at same time if you get this done).

2) there is something like a rag or string caught in the trap (the waste passage within the toilet body itself) which is slowly wicking the bowl water down the drain - would be solved by a good snaking. If this is the case, the bowl will fill fully after flushing, but then slowly (typically many minutes to hours) drain down to just filling the start of the oval or round drain passageway where the waste passage starts to curve up into the toilet body.

3) blocked sewer vent pipe (which vents sewer gas and lets air into the sewer system so when you flush the traps in drains and toilets and such do not get sucked dry by the vacumn caused by the exiting flow. If this is the problem, then several drains in your house may have the same problem, or drain slowly. When you flush, the water will drain totally down the pipe and almost all the water in the bowl and trap will go down the drain too, typically with a gurgling sound for a few seconds at the end as the air seal is broken in the trap, then a small amount of water will flow back from the trap into the bowl, leaving you with water in the entrance curve to the trap but nowhere near normal height in the bowl - maybe not even enough to fill the entrance of the drain passage.

4) a crack in the toilet, letting water gradually leak out of the bowl onto the floor or into the subfloor. If this has been going on for long at all you should see water on the floor, or water coming out in the ceiling downstairs, or in the basement or crawl space under the toilet.

Case 2 - the problem is low water in the toilet TANK - since this is a sudden problem, two likely causes:

1)  the float arm has corroded or the float setting has moved. Look in tank for any broken part. You may have a black ball on the end of a metal or plastic arm connected to the fill valve (which is the part, normally at the left side of the tank, that the flexible or copper tubing comes into at the bottom of the tank), or it may be a sliding cylindrical float that slides up and down on the fill valve (typically all plastic) - see if it is broken or loose or alll corroded up (for the arm type). When you flush, this float hangs down (if lever type) or slides down the fill valve (cylinder type), opening the fill valve so fresh water comes in to fill the tank and bowl. As the tank fills it lifts this float, till at the proper elevation the bouyancy of the float shuts off the fill valve. If the setting on this float has changed then it will either cause the toilet to "run" continually because it is trying to overfill the tank (float shuts off at too high a level, so water is continuously flowing down into the overflow tube and into the bowl); or it will shut off too soon, causing only a partial tank fill. There are adjustments to adjust the float shutoff setting - typically an adjustment xxxx on the arm-type, and a slider stop clip on a small rod for the sliding type. See web videos on how to adjust this, or call a plumber.

2) your flapper valve (in bottom of tank, the part a chain or cord or rod connects to the flush handle, which opens it when you flush the toilet, leaks. If it leaks AND the fill valve is working, the tank level drops till the fill valve opens, then the tank refills. This repeats at intervals, with the tank refilling periodically even though it has not been flushed. May need new flapper valve or just a good wiping of the sealing surface to remove grit that is causin it to leak. If this is the problem you will have a slight flow of water into the bowl continually, and will probably see a slight ripple in the toilet bowl.

3) water is leaking out of the fittings or bolt holes on the bottom of the tank. If this is happening enough to make you notice low takn water level, the tank will refill periodically the same as if the flapper valve is leaking, plus you will have water on the floor and dripping off the bottom of the tank.


Fill valve and flapper valves each cost around $15 if you do it yourself (you can buy just replacement flapper for less if that is the problem and the matching seal is good, but that is rarely the case). A plumber call to replace both probably $150-200, ASSUMING your water shutoff valve (at the wall, under the tank, with a flex or copper tube coming fromit up to the toilet tank) will work.. If it will not shut off the flow of water, then add another $50-150 to replace that, depending on how it is plumbed and whether he has to cut into the wall to replace it (rarely required). If you do go and have a plumber do it, have both the fill valve and flapper valve (and flush handle, if aluminum or brass and corroded) replaced at the same time, as all tend to go out with age - every 10 years or so. You don't want to have to call the plumber to replace another part in just a year or two.


From the sounds of it, you have a clog between the floor drain and the connection to the city sewer (unless you have a septic tank).  The lower flow rates of sinks / showers / dishwashers probable don't cause a backup like the washing machine does.  A couple of suggestions.

1.  Snake the drain line with a spade tip snake, twisting the snake as you advance it.  This should clear the partial blockage.

 2.  If feasable, have your washing machine discharge into a utility sink and put a strainer on the drain to catch the clothing fibre (fibres and grease from the sink probably made the clog in the first place not to mention a garbage disposal).

3.  Replace your floor drain with one that has a backflow preventer (looks like there is a ping pong ball in it).

 Good Luck

It is not uncommon for a plumber to have to go get the parts necessary to repair and complete the job.  It is very hard to determine what the problem is over the phone and it is not until the repair process begins that the parts needed to resolve the problem is discovered.  It may also depend on if the plumber is using hourly rates or per job rates.  I would hope the time to get the parts would be minimal and the charge would be as well!

Well , you've certainly started a debate that will endure forever , but personally , having worked with both products , PEX is a better product . Now granted , the 1st time i used it

I was not impressed , cause it leaked.......NOT because the product was at fault, it was because I did not understand how to use the product !

The trick to using Pex , is to make certain that the fittings seat, they MUST be pushed together with force, and if you do not push with force to get the seat to seal, it leaks .

Therefore , when using PEX , you have constantly to be aware of leaving room to make your connections -Properly !

The beauty of PEX is that it bends , it is flexible and decreases the labor factor ,although the connection costs are often 100-300 % higher than copper , but again , it can cut labor costs in half  and it is safer to work with,  NO FLAMEs!

FYI: CPVC and PEX are two different materials and installed differently.  PEX is not intended to be glued but instead has special crimp fittings.  PEX is a brand name of one product that is manufactured slightly differently by others as well so it is important that the same brand fittings are used to match the pipe material.

Mobile homes used CPVC for years and some still do.  It works fine but is not as strong as a properly soldered copper pipe system.  Is the contractor installing this new plumbing a licensed plumber?  I'd be surprised if he is since he's using CPVC and not PEX (or similar) or copper.  PEX pipe is even cheaper than CPVC when run by a knowledgable plumber.  It doesn't require nearly as many joints since it comes in rolls and can flex through spaces easily.

There are some groups raising a fuss about BPA and other chemicals found in plastics that don't like the use of CPVC, PVC, or PEX pipe.  I haven't seen the results of any lab tests to confirm or dispute their concerns.  As far as durability goes it's fairly safe as long as it's properly installed and secured.  It is not as susceptible to hard water damage as copper.  It absolutely must be insulated along it's entire length to protect it from contact to other materials as well as freezing.  Also, the fixtures in the house need to be grounded electrically since the pipe itself provides no electrical protection against accidental shock or electrocution.  In a copper plumbed house the system is grounded so static electricity, a short in a wire near a water line, or lightning strike will carry the current out through the pipe instead of through the water to you, ideally.

If it's installed correctly you should be fine but make sure the contractor knows what he is doing and follows the proper procedures to use CPVC pipe.

Todd Shell
Todd's Home Services
It is usually cheaper to remove part of the ceiling below and patch it after the leak has been repaired.  Remember that water can travel before settling in one area, causing the spot you've seen.  Just because it is below the toilet does not mean that the toilet is the problem.  The cheapest option is to pull the toilet and check the floor around the wax ring to see if it has been leaking.  A new wax ring only costs a few dollars.  When was the last time you caulked the shower in that bathroom?  The water can leak around the corners or at the door (if you have one) and travel along the floor joists until it pools in a lower spot on the ceiling below, then seep through.  It could also be a seal at the drain of the tub or shower. 

I get a few calls a year for this sort of thing.  It's usually something simple but can be a nightmare to diagnose, especially if the problem is intermittent.  Start with the simple possibilities and use deductive reasoning to narrow the possibilities.  Before you do a lot of damage it may pay off to hire a reputable contractor to help you make sure you've exhausted all of the imple and more obvious possibilities.

Todd Shell
Todd's Home Services

Drain Cleaning reviews in White Lake


was very timely in meeting appointments and project start time. Due to tricky path around existing electrical system got a second opinion on the project and provided alternative recommendations. He and his team completed the work in one 12 hour day which we expected would take at least 2 days. He was ...More so concerned with appearance of visible work that he returned and redid a tricky connection to improve appearance. Team was extremely flexible working around family events and minimized time water service was shut down.
- Guy D.

I explained the problem, shared what I knew about the layout of the underground sewer lines, and the plumber got to work. We were surprised to find a large knot of paper/rags of some sort in the drain, but it was quickly and efficiently removed and we're now back to free-running drains. Prompt and efficient; great service.
- Durwin S.

He was able to give us a quick appointment, showed up on time, assessed the problem, had to go to Lowes for parts, and replaces some clogged filters that were causing the low pressure issue. He was done quickly and we were up and running in no time!

Everything was fantastic. I called that day about scheduling a main line clean and was pleasantly surprised that they were available same day. They arrived when they said they would. The two gentlemen who performed the service were courteous and knowledgeable. They left everything as it was, not an item out of place when the work was complete. ...More I was very pleased with the price, it was much lower than the other places I contacted. I have already added them to my address book, there is no question that I would use them again :)
One last bit I can't forget, I received a call after the service was performed to make sure everything was done to my satisfaction. Above and beyond customer service that seems to be lost theses days!!
- Nichole S.

My husband and I had a really great experience with this company! Our sewer line backed up and we tried to snake it with another company but it didn't work so we had to hydro jet the clogged pipe. Unfortunately it ended up being a much bigger problem than just a clog. There were a lot of roots but we also saw that part of the sewer line had ...More collapsed and it was in a place that wasn't easy to access. :( Their crew came out quickly, they were very professional and they showed me everything that was going on until I understood it. Then they worked with me to go over the options for repairs until we found the best option, which I was really pleased with. Then the best thing - they moved quickly - which was great because we couldn't take showers or flush our toilets, etc.!! Their workers - Gio and Michi and a few others - were really considerate, friendly and extremely hard-working. I was very impressed with their work ethic! The supervisor, , was really friendly and helpful and helped to work out a good deal, along with the owner. They seemed more focused on getting the job done right and finding the best solution and not on running up a huge bill. The guys were at our house for 3 days and they worked hard - even coming in all day on Saturday to get our plumbing up and running as quickly as possible. I really appreciated their efforts to finish the job as quickly as possible!!! All in all, I was really pleased with their prices, their quality and their work ethic. I would definitely recommend them and use them again myself.
- holly Q.

I have currently employed the plumbing services of " " on three occasions and have been very satisfied each time with the professionalism of Mr. (the owner). I am in the real estate business and have over the years employed many plumbers and Mr. is the best of those. He ...More offers suggestions/options and provides detailed answers to all of my questions. You feel that he thinks problems thru and does not rush a job in order to finish quickly and get paid. I would highly recommend ' " to all Angie's List members.

returned our message promptly. He was available to to do the repair work in about an hour and a half. He arrived before the estimated time. He was friendly and professional. He inspected the leak and recommended that we replace both the hot and cold water pipe due to the age and condition of the pipes. We agreed to his recommendation. ...More He used copper pipes and completed the work in about two hours. The workmanship was excellent! We would recommend using for your plumbing needs.
- Greg Y.

Although the appointment had been scheduled for early in the morning, came only a couple of hours later. When I called the office it took a while till called me back. She apologized for the delay because of unforeseen problems with another job. Because the bathroom shower drain was blocked she snaked ...More the drain. She ran the cable a couple of times down the drain. Although nothing could be brought up, there seemed to be something resisting the snake. could eventually destroy the blockage. She also tested all other drains in the house. worked very thoroughly and explained what and why she was doing it. She is very friendly and professional. Except of the scheduling and responsiveness which was not optimal in my case I was very pleased with her work. I will hire her again.
- Gudrun N.

Drain Cleaning Companies in White Lake, MI

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A & A Taskmasters

5315 Plymouth St.
Sterling Heights

A Plus Plumbing

6183 N Waverly St
Dearborn Heights

A Plus Plumbing

6183 N Waverly St

A&M's Plumbing Inc.

Madison Heights

A-1 Home Maintenance Services & Commercial

7583 Jennings rd
Whitmore Lake

A-fordable Plumbing & Mechanical

1147 Centre Rd
Auburn Hills


P.O Box 5409

A.S.A.P (Assured Sewer And Plumbing)

22001 Le Fever Ave

A1 Choice Home Improvement

19166 Oakville St.

Aaron's Excavating Inc

3124 Seebaldt Ave





Adams Complete Cleaning and Restoration

17895 E. 14 Mile Rd

Advance Restoration

22815 Macomb Industrial Dr
Clinton Township

After-Hours Plumbing

3476 Fairlane Dr
Allen Park

Ak image plumbing inc

40204 La Grange dr
Sterling Heights

Ak image plumbing inc

40204 La Grange
Sterling Heights


25840 John R.
Madison Heights

All Around 24/7 Plumbing & Heating

2220 Queen St.


32843 Cleveland

Allied Plumbing & Sewer

27625 Romine Rd
New Boston

allin plumbing

3344 riverside dr


P.O. Box 23009

Aquatech Plumbing

660 E Ridge St
South Lyon

Asset Rehab & Maintenance Services

22014 Pleasant St
Saint Clair Shores

Belleville Plumbing and Heating

41199 Van Born Rd Ste 100

Belmont Plumbing

9501 Iris St

Belvedere Construction LLC

6149 Trailside Dr

Bennie's Plumbing

27608 West Road
New Boston

bl moving&maint services

po box 243

Bob Downey Plumbing & Sewer Service

P.O. Box 380121
Clinton Township

Bobs Sanitation Service

27940 Wick Rd

Brandin's Quality Drywall

24590 Palmetto Dr
Flat Rock

Brass Plumbing Professionals LLC

7773 Silver Pointe Dr
Fair Haven

BROADCO Property Restoration

44700 N.Groesbeck Hwy.
Clinton Twp.

Bulldog Plumbing

22107 Stephens St

C A L Plumbing & Heating

8525 Belleville Rd

Clearwater Michigan

12351 Stark Rd.

Clearwater Sewer and Drain Cleaning Specialist

22508 Quinn Rd.
Clinton Township

Code Red Cleaning Service

17080 Masonic Ste 218

Complete Mechanical Solutions Inc

42480 Park Ridge Rd

Complete Plumbing Services LLC

1657 Severn Road
Grosse Pointe

DBC Company, Inc.

46574 ERB DR

dbc Water Pros

18530 Mack Ave
Grosse Pointe Farms

DCP plumbing

14355 Cloverdale


1085 Lakeview Dr
Walled Lake

Done Right Cleaning Services

25350 Wexford Ave

drain inspectors

po box 7577

Drain Inspectors LLC

22480 Milner Street
Saint Claire Shores

Drip Dry Waterproofing and Restoration

57666 Abraham
Washington Twp.

DryMedic Restoration Services of Novi

795 Industrial Ct.
Bloomfield Twp.


PO BOX 632

E.L. Aprea Services LLC

32560 Garfield Rd.

Eagle Cleaning Company

39116 Zofia Ave
Sterling Heights


22421 KELLY RD

Eco Green

26942 Merideth Dr

Edwards Plumbing & Heating

25003 Michigan Ave

Eller Services LLC

1900 S Livernois
Rochester Hills

Emmett Drains & Plumbing

14440 Ellwell

Empire Plumbing Waterproofing Specialists, LLC

6768 E. 12 Mile Rd.
Sterling Heights

Evelux Plumbing & Construction

627 Crescent Lake Rd

Experience Home Improvement

5903 Wayne Road

Expert Plumbing Inc

48305 Alyce Kay St

Expert Plumbing Inc

8216 Goldie St
Walled Lake

Fairlane Plumbing

1443 Hollywood St

G J Sewer Repair & Cleaning Inc

P.O. Box 40805


Dearborn Heights

GR Plumbing and Heating

12060 Grand River Ave

Hilton Road Plumbing

2100 Hilton Rd

Hitchins Amazing Construction

23500 Manor Road North


42235 Yeargo Dr
Sterling Heights

Hubble and Sons

4600 9th street

Husband For A Day Inc

809 Worchester Dr

Hygieia cleaning services

700 machette

IDC Heating Cooling & Plumbing

25538 Five Mile Rd

Iron Pipe Sewer & Drain, Inc

3938 Charles St

J&K Outdoor Services LLC

11250 McCrone

J&S Home Maintenance LLC

School Rd

JOC Property Maintenance

39348 Lyndon St

Joe's Plumbing

2620 Sadler Dr

Jolliffi Construction

14260 Burt Rd

Joy Road Sewer and Drain

20809 Joy Rd

JW Sewage

12020 Westwood


South Lyon

Local Plumbing & Drain Cleaning

24740 Saxony

Lombardo Restoration

9399 Mitchell St

Longstaff Drain Plumbing

Shelby Township

Mack Ave Plumbing

10100 Mack Ave


26314 OSMUN
Madison Heights

Macomb Heating & Air & Plumbing

43095 Riveria
Sterling Heights

Maple Rd Plumbing Experts

770 W Maple Rd

Masterflow Plumbing

6320 Marcy Street

Masters Touch Construction

20208 Avalon
Saint Clair Shores

MY Plumber

3865 Lindsley Dr

National Drain

PO Box 8339

Patriot Plumbing & Co. LLC

500 Henry Ruff
Garden City

Perfect Plumbing Sewer & Drain

15910 26 Mile Rd

Perk's Plumbing

PO BOX 47901
Oak Park

Phil's Home Services

42882 Mound Rd
Sterling Heights

Pipes Plus Plumbing

Mount Clemens

Plumbing Techs

24605 John R Rd
Hazel Park

Powierski Plumbing & Heating

52188 Van Dyke Ave

Prime Time Plumbing, Inc.

60 S.Telegraph Rd



Professional Home Restorations

43862 Freeway Drive Suite J75
Sterling Heights

Professional Plumbing

22436 Lakeland

Professional Plumbing

22436 Lakeland
Saint Clair Shores

Prometheus Solutions

1700 big trail

Pure Home Renovations LLC

654 lenox ave



R S Sewer & Drain

29983 Mcintyre

Randolph Street Plumbing

1234 Randolph St

Re-Construction, Inc.

17250 Redford St

Real Estate Authority

17301 Livernois #325

Renaissance Construction Group

17535 E 9 Mile Rd

Renaissance Plumbing and Heating

100 Renaissance Ctr

Restoration & Recovery Plumbing

41275 Old Michigan Ave

Rick's Plumbing

1075 Lake Lane dr.
White Lake

Sam the Plumber Inc

4690 Cooley Lake Rd
Commerce Township

Sanford And Son Main Drain

8437 West 8 Mile Rd

Shipp GW Plumbing

5128 Oakcliff Dr

Shoreline Plumbing and Heating

2580 Ranch Road

Signature Services

17500 Dix

Solomom Plumbing

29665 William K Smith Dr
New Hudson

Sur-Flo Plumbing

34724 Beaconsfield St
Clinton Township

Swift Restoration

15515 Wabash st

T & R Drain Cleaing, LLC

28721 Jefferson Ave
St Clair Shores


18011 E. 14 Mile Rd.

The Drain and Sewer Co

27847 Delton St
Madison Heights

The drainman company

480 bogie lake rd

Thomas Plumbing Services LLC

3050 Union Lake Rd
Commerce Township

Thornton Group

21465 Greenville Unit 172

Tight Plumbing

1230 West 8 MIle

Tisdale Plumbing

3120 Elmhurst Ave
Royal Oak


White Lake

United Plumbing Co. Llc

27696 Newcastle St

validino investments llc

17800 east warren

Vaughns Plumbing

120 atkinson

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