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(they also go by Alarm Center Group) is continuing to send invoices for monitoring services for a system that was disconnected per their" direction. Furthermore, we have since had a new system installed by a different, reputable company. There is nothing for
to monitor. They are insisting that they have a yearly, auto renewing contract. They have violated CA law, in that contracts cannot be auto-renewing without giving notice to the customer of the renewal date, yearly. I sent the following letter to
in December 2014.
P.O. Box 712843 San
, CA, 92171 Subject:
Violation of California State Business and Law Professions Code sections 17600-17606 Pending Litigation To Whom this May Concern: In September 2014,
, (Customer) of
(company) did, in writing; advise that he was cancelling the monitoring of his home security system. As of this writing, the existing monitoring hardware has been removed. Your company has nothing to monitor. On December 24, company did respond in writing via U.S. Mail, with three one page documents (see attached pages) 1. Cover letter requiring additional fees, 2. Copy of the Alarm Monitoring Service Agreement, and, 3. One page of the terms and conditions. The cover letter stated (see attached) that $123.00 is still due, even though the account was cancelled. See the further attached pages of how
has violated State of California Law. Pursuant to State of California Law, 2010 Business and Law Professions Code sections 17600-17606, ACG has violated the Terms of Service required for auto-renewing contracts. As such, the following State Law required items were not met: 1. Company has not provided the required “easy to use mechanism for cancellation”. 2. Company did not obtain “affirmative customer consent” prior to each year of renewal. 3. Company did not print the cancellation method in a distinctive font different from adjoining text. 4. The customer’s existing system was disconnected from power, as per company direction,in September 2014, due to system errors. It has not been monitored since. 5. The customer hired new monitoring hardware installer, and monitoring company discovered that the existing system was incorrectly wired by
, and could not have sent an alarm if triggered. Due to these items, and primarily non-compliance to State Law,
has summarily cancelled and fired the monitoring service for his residence. Cancellation shall commence immediately, and should have been cancelled in September 2014. The requested $123.00 will not be paid due to ACG violation of State law, as well as ACG selling services for a system that could not be monitored. Should
attempt to further request, threaten, or intimidate the Customer into paying the suggested outstanding invoice (such as sending another Statement), the Customer will proceed with a Class Action Suit, Small Claims Court Litigation, and post verifiable negative reviews on all social media. This seems like a great deal of hassle; attempting to bill a 13 year customer with a perfect payment record, for cancelling a contract. However, further attempts to collect monies, and non-cancellation of the contract, will immediately result in the Customer filing against ACG and
. Confirmation of cancellation required in 7 days to avoid the above actions.

-Loren S.

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is continuing to send invoices for monitoring services for a system that was disconnected per their direction. Furthermore, we have since" had a new system installed by a different, reputable company. There is nothing for them to monitor. They are insisting that they have a yearly, auto renewing contract. They have violated Ca law, in that contracts cannot be auto-renewing without giving notice to the customer of the renewal date, yearly. I sent the following letter to
in December 2014. December 24, 2014
(ACG) Attention:
P.O. Box 712843 San
, CA, 92171 Subject:
and Central Dispatch Violation of California State Business and Law Professions Code sections 17600-17606 Pending Class Action Suit To Whom this May Concern: In September 2014,
, (Customer) of
(ACG) did, in writing; advise ACG that he was cancelling the monitoring of his home security system. As of this writing, the existing monitoring hardware has been removed. Your company has nothing to monitor. On December 24, ACG did respond in writing via U.S. Mail, with three one page documents (see attached pages) 1. Cover letter requiring additional fees, 2. Copy of the Alarm Monitoring Service Agreement, and, 3. One page of the terms and conditions. The cover letter stated (see attached) that $123.00 is still due, even though the account was cancelled. See the further attached pages of how ACG has violated State of California Law. Pursuant to State of California Law, 2010 Business and Law Professions Code sections 17600-17606, ACG has violated the Terms of Service required for auto-renewing contracts. As such, the following State Law required items were not met: 1. ACG has not provided the required “easy to use mechanism for cancellation”. 2. ACG did not obtain “affirmative customer consent” prior to each year of renewal. 3. ACG did not print the cancellation method in a distinctive font different from adjoining text. 4. The customer’s existing system was disconnected from power, as per ACG direction, in September 2014, due to system errors. It has not been monitored since. 5. The customer hired new monitoring hardware installer, and monitoring company discovered that the existing system was incorrectly wired by ACG, and could not have sent an alarm if triggered. Due to these items, and primarily non-compliance to State Law,
has summarily cancelled and fired the monitoring service for his residence. Cancellation shall commence immediately, and should have been cancelled in September 2014. The requested $123.00 will not be paid due to ACG violation of State law, as well as ACG selling services for a system that could not be monitored. Should ACG attempt to further request, threaten, or intimidate the Customer into paying the suggested outstanding invoice (such as sending another Statement), the Customer will proceed with a Class Action Suit, Small Claims Court Litigation, and post verifiable negative reviews on all social media. This seems like a great deal of hassle; attempting to bill a 13 year customer with a perfect payment record, for cancelling a contract. However, further attempts to collect monies, and non-cancellation of the contract, will immediately result in the Customer filing against ACG and
. Confirmation of cancellation required in 7 days to avoid the above actions.

-Loren S.

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I second the original question (still unanswered). Speaking as someone who logged in today to try to find an attorney, I see this category as one that's exactly what I have my Angie's List membership for:

1. It's important that I find a good one
2. I'm not an expert enough to know myself who is a good one
3. The industry is full of advertisements and misinformation
4. I wish I knew what experiences other people have had


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I don't care about lawns--I planted mine in clover and don't have to mow it. When I do need to mow I use a rotary Fiskars mower, which is great--or a scythe. That's right--a scythe (the European type, which is smaller, and it's very good exercise). Gas-powered mowers, chemical fertilizers and weed killers--all nasty stuff that gets into everyone's air, soil, and water. I'm sure my neighbor doesn't like my wildflowers, semi-wild pockets of fruit bushes, and unmown areas and yes, dandelions (I have 10 acres) but that's too bad. It's better habitat for wildlife, especially the pollinators on which our food supply depends. I think this obsession with the Great American Lawn is a waste of time and resources. Plant some food instead.


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I'm not sure Angie et. al. want you to have a complete answer to this question. By re-subscribing at the Indiana State Fair in 2012, I think I paid $20.00 per year for a multi- year subscription. Maybe even less. At the other extreme--and I hope my memory isn't faulty about this--I think the price, for my area, for ONE year was an outrageous $70.00. And they debited me automatically without warning. I had to opt out of that automatic charge. I like Angie's List, but if some of the companies they monitor behaved the way they do in this respect, they'd be on some sort of Pages of Unhappiness. I'll be interested to see if this comment gets published or censored out of existence.
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You have to put your self in the shoes of a business that is in business to turn a profit of some sort. All businesses have different overhead which in turn decides what their bottom line would be on their services. I personally would not go with an unlicensed professional for this type of install. You are messing with gas, venting issues, electrical wiring{electric water heater} and updated code issues such as a drain pan and tempature and relief drain lines for heaters that currently do not have them. I do agree that there are some companies that are way out of line for their installs but most of these companies are the really big companies that have very high overheads  I would assume. Tank type water heaters have changed over the last several years and with these safety changes come bigger prices. The price of steel thanks to China is skyrocketing and tank type water heaters are made of steel. Most wholesale plumbing supply companies cannot match what the big box stores are selling at retail to consumers. I happen to think from research that heaters such as Rheem, Bradford White and AOSmith who have been in business forever make a better product than what you can buy in the big box outlets. You also have to take in consideration the location of the water heater that is being replaced. Is it in the house, basement, garage or attic. Most 40 and 50 gallon water heaters that are purchased in a plumbing wholesale store in Texas cost between 300-340 for a 6 year warranty heater with 6 year on parts and tank. Speaking of warranty. Most big box companies will take a least 24 hours to a week to get your warranty problem taken care of. Most reputable plumbing companies will give same day service if they installed the heater.

So lets break down a typical install at cost to a licensed plumber in Texas

Heater: $315, water shut off $6.50, water flex lines or unions to code $20, gas flex line and cut off to code $12, misc fittings $15, Total $368.50 Lets add a 35% profit which is some what low  for a business $129, Total 497.50

This doesnt  include permits, pan and drain or any venting issues. The vent must go from the heater to the outside of roof using double wall vent.

Cost of permit on average $60

Most plumbing companies allow for 3 hours of time for a water heater. This includes picking the new one up. Delivering out to house. Draining and removing old water heater. Hauling off old heater. Installing new heater up to code. Going down to city and pulling permit.

Average Labor charges for heater installs $400

That would make this install run without extras on any code issues $957.50

I just had a 50 gallon gas water heater installed in my house for $1200 but I needed a pan installed. I used a licensed plumber.

 

 

 

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That's very difficult to answer without seeing the house. As one poster said, the prep is the most important part. On newer homes that don't have a lot of peeling paint, the prep can be very minimal even as low as a couple or a few hundred dollars for the prep labor.

On a 100 year old home with 12 coats of peeling paint on it, then the prep costs can be very high and can easily exceed 50% of the job's labor cost.

A 2100 sq ft two story home could easily cost $1000 just for the labor to prep for the paint job. That number could climb too. Throw in lots of caullking  or window glazing, and you could be talking a couple or a few hundred dollars more for labor.

Painting that home with one coat of paint and a different color on the trim could run roughly $1000 or more just for labor. Add a second coat  and that could cost close to another $1000 for labor.

For paint, you may need 20 gallons of paint. You can pay from $30-$70 for a gallon of good quality exterior paint. The manufacturer of the paint should be specified in any painting contract. Otherwise, the contractor could bid at a Sherwin-Williams $60 per gallon paint and then paint the house with $35 Valspar and pocket the difference. $25 dollars per gallon times 20 gallons? That's a pretty penny too.

That was the long answer to your question. The short answer is $2000 to $4000 and up, depending upon the amount of prep, the number of coats, the amount of trim, and the paint used.

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Todd said it best.

An itemized list / cost breakdown, more often than not is used against the contractor when it is shared with other builders who will then beat it.

Good contractors use good people, and good people cost more.  Just the cost of having the appropriate insurance / bond can be the difference between winning a job or losing it ot a 'lower bid'.

It is the rule of three; there is Good, Cheap and Fast.  You can have any two:  Good and Cheap, won't be Fast; Good and Fast, won't be Cheap;  Cheap and Fast, won't be Good!

When comparing bids, it isn't the cheapest or the 'nicest' person you should select.   You should understand why there is a large price difference (it shows there are gaps in your design program or what you have asked for specifically, which means there may be arguments later).  If most of the bids are in line, and one is way high or way low,  you want to know why before dismissing or selecting them.

A price-only decision almost always costs more in the long run. 

Good luck!

Home Security System reviews in Ottawa

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Excellent, my second time using this company.
Ran into trouble on a Sunday night,
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, owner called me back on a Sunday night to help stop the " beeping"!!
This company is great, reliable, and reasonable.
- sue F.
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Our experience has always been positive. We continue to refer
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without question and our referrals have always been happy! It's a rare thing nowadays to have a company you can count on without question.
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is that company.
- Andrea C.
F

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iAccess (they also go by Alarm Center Group, Alarm Center,and Central Dispatch) is continuing to send invoices for monitoring services for a system that was disconnected per their direction. Furthermore, we have since had a new system installed by a different, reputable company. There is nothing for them to monitor. They are insisting that they have a yearly, auto renewing contract. They have violated CA law, in that contracts cannot be auto-renewing without giving notice to the customer of the renewal date, yearly. I sent the following letter to them in December 2014. Calling them gets nowheer. The secretary shields the Owner, supposedly named
Ottawa Home Security Companies Provider Name Locked
, who is not to be bothered with customers.
Subject:
iAccess Violation of California State Business and Law Professions Code sections 17600-17606
Pending Litigation
To Whom this May Concern:
In September 2014,
Ottawa Home Security Companies Provider Name Locked
, (Customer) did, in writing; advise iAccess that he was cancelling the monitoring of his home security system. As of this writing, the existing monitoring hardware has been removed. Your company has nothing to monitor.
On December 24, ACG did respond in writing via U.S. Mail, with three one page documents (see attached pages) 1. Cover letter requiring additional fees, 2. Copy of the Alarm Monitoring Service Agreement, and, 3. One page of the terms and conditions. The cover letter stated (see attached) that $123.00 is still due, even though the account was cancelled. See the further attached pages of how iAccess has violated State of California Law.
Pursuant to State of California Law, 2010 Business and Law Professions Code sections 17600-17606, ACG has violated the Terms of Service required for auto-renewing contracts. As such, the following State Law required items were not met:

1. iAccess has not provided the required “easy to use mechanism for cancellation”.
2. iAccess did not obtain “affirmative customer consent” prior to each year of renewal.
3. iAccess did not print the cancellation method in a distinctive font different from adjoining text.
4. The customer’s existing system was disconnected from power, as per iAccess direction, in September 2014, due to system errors. It has not been monitored since.
5. The customer hired new monitoring hardware installer, and monitoring company discovered that the existing system was incorrectly wired by iAccess, and could not have sent an alarm if triggered.
Due to these items, and primarily non-compliance to State Law, the customer has summarily cancelled and fired the monitoring service for his residence. Cancellation shall commence immediately, and should have been cancelled in September 2014.
The requested $123.00 will not be paid due to ACG violation of State law, as well as ACG selling services for a system that could not be monitored.
Should ACG attempt to further request, threaten, or intimidate the Customer into paying the suggested outstanding invoice (such as sending another Statement), the Customer will proceed with a Class Action Suit, Small Claims Court Litigation, and post verifiable negative reviews on all social media. This seems like a great deal of hassle; attempting to bill a 13 year customer with a perfect payment record, for cancelling a contract. However, further attempts to collect monies, and non-cancellation of the contract, will immediately result in the Customer filing against iAccess and
Ottawa Home Security Companies Provider Name Locked
. Confirmation of cancellation required in 7 days to avoid the above actions.
They never responded.


- Loren S.
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Rating
We ordered the security system on a Friday (16
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) with an expectation of the product being delivered within 3-5 business days. On Wednesday of the next week I started called
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for a tracking number. While everyone was extremely courteous, the customer rep assured me I would get one by the end of the day. On Thursday, I called again and was told that the shipping department had yet to create the order. Arrrg! Again, being extremely courteous the customer rep had me stay on the line until he was assured the system was in process of shipping. Then he called me back with the shipping info and told me it would be overnight. This time it arrived as promised. Setup was a breeze and the tech rep walking me through the entire system. Except for the bumpy start, so far the service is great. After digging deeper into the reviews, I found four others with like stories. Guest I was just 1 in a 1000.
- Donald S.
F

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I agreed to a 3 year agreement for a competitive rate. I called to set up installation and added the preference for a weekend installation. I was told that such an appointment would require 3 weeks to complete due to scheduling availability. I agreed to wait for the convenience of the weekend installation. On the day of scheduled installation, I was not called with a service window. I called to determine that I would have a noon to 4pm window. Since the technician did not show up by 3:30 pm, I called to inquire about the status only to find that the technician did not have the appropriate equipment and could not complete the installation. I offered to postpone for 1 week to resolve this issue, but was told that it could not be accommodated for another 3-4 weeks. I asked that my agreement be terminated since the company could not provide the service in the time we had agreed to. The company refused. Meanwhile, my family remains at risk as we are being held hostage by
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's limited resources and we are now accommodating
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's timeline to complete the service agreed to. It is apparent that
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is not interested in accommodating a customer even when the customer has accommodated the company.
- Roger A.
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I applaud
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for a well-designed and well-conceived security system product. Some of our friends have other systems that are clunky, expensive and problematic, but we are quite pleased that our
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system avoids all of these problems. I expect that
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will be acquiring a larger and larger share of the security
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, and deservedly so. Kudos to this company.
- ERIC E.
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Everything from the initial estimate to the final product is guaranteed to be exactly what you expect. You can tell them a budget and they will make a game plan to get your job done within that budget. Highly recommended.
- Kevin C.
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Good first impression, scheduled a service appt. only two days out, Arrived within a half hour of appt. friendly technician. Install went poorly, was supposed to take about 8 hrs. They spent over 20 hrs. Altogether. Overall this was a disaster, seemed like the first time anyone had installed a system. Almost everything had to be redone to properly install cameras. Holes were cut too large, cables were showing that could have been easily
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, 2nd technician was on his phone most of the time texting, guy in the attic did most of the work. Technician mis-stepped in the attic and damaged the ceiling but didn't tell anyone, found it after they had left. Next morning found they had severed the 120V power in a wall by drilling through it. Company was slow to respond to my complaint, three days before
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came to see the damage. Wanted to fix the 120V wiring they had cut himself, when I asked if he was a licensed electrician he said " ....I could be" To add insult to injury he implied that the 120V wiring in my home was not installed by a licensed electrician originally. I am promised that they will fix the damage next week . These are just the highlights, avoid these guys like the plague......
- Leigh L.

All Home Security Companies in Ottawa, KS

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ADT Topeka

1309 SW 6th Ave
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1500 SW 6th Ave
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214 Se 8th
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36182 W 287th St.
Paola

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3365 SW Gage Blvd
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1568 Spring Hill Rd.

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Link Home Security

3293 Harrison Blvd

Lynn Electric & Communications

1849 E 1450 Rd
Lawrence

NextAlarm

3330 Cumberland Blvd

Protect Your Home

3750 Priority Way S Dr

Protection 1 Lawrence

1035 N Third St
Lawrence

Protection 1 Security Solutions

1324 S Kansas Avenue
Topeka

Renewal by Andersen of Topeka KS

5844 SW Huntoon St
Topeka

Rueschhoff Locksmiths & Security

3727 W 6th St.
Lawrence

SafeMart

522 W. Bertrand Avenue
Saint Mary's

SecureNet Alarms Inc.

11635 W. 83rd Ter
Lenexa

SimpliSafe Home Security

294 Washington St.

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