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originally did hail damage repair. They did siding repair/replacement and recovered/re-wraped" a bay window area with aluminum coil wrap working as a sub contractor for my roofing contractor earlier in the year. I asked for a bid for painting and deck surface attachment work. The bid seemed reasonable so I had them do the job. The painting part of the job job was 90 % two story work. The only ground work was the four large columns that support the two story portico every other part on the portico, both inside and out, was up two stories. All work was done with care and quality by
and his helper. Paint used was high quality, I was given the left over paint for my own use. They cleaned up everything. I have recommended
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-James M.

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, the owner, was very pleasant, informative and helpful with the plan and selection of materials. The carpenters were efficient and very skilled.

-Kathryn Y.

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I agree with Jim Casper - after about 50 years of dealing with weathered wood finishing both in my homes and in the construction business, it comes down to about 90% preparation, 10% the finishing. If you do not prep the wood right, any moisture, mold, etc in the wood will destroy whatever you put over it.

High-build finishes like paint and epoxies and, from reading the Rustoleum flyer on this new product that too, work by trying to make an impenetrable surface and depend on a very good bond with the surface, AND no water getting under them. Because they are thick and are designed to provide a waterproof surface, unfortunately where water gets under them they are just as good or better at keeping it from evaporating, so you get fungal growth, blistering, and peeling.

Unfortunately, on deck and most outdoor applications except siding the surface will get nicked, scratched and otherwise develop leaks in short order. Water will therefore get into the underlying wood, and because it entered through small cracks and scratches, does not have any airflow to make it evaporate, so it sits there and breaks the finish bond to the wood (causing peeling and blisters), and promotes decay. That is why new deck boards and siding and trim that have been heavily or multi-coat painted on all 4 sides, thinking that will give the best protection, only last a few years versus the usual 10-20 years or so for boards that are painted top and sides only.

The full sun and hot conditions will, of course, cause more thann normal heating of dark colored painted decking. I had one instance where I was doing an independent appraisal of a very large commercial deck at a government facility, and in 85-90 degree daytime temps, in the sushine the chocolate brown deck surface temp was 150 degrees, and the paint was softening so much it stuck to the bottom of your shoes a couple of months after application.

As Jim said, the studies pretty clearly show that a breathable penetrating stain gives the best life, after plain ACA/CCA (copper chromium variations - the green stuff) treated wood. Penetrating stains, properly applied, do NOT seal in the moisture, they inhibit its entry and (when dark colored) help protect against sun damage to the wood and finish, but still breathe enough to let moisture escape on dry days. For my money, I will only use petroleum distillate (paint thinner cleanup) products, as they penetrate into the wood much better. Water based ones immediately start swelling the wood pores, so it blocks further penetration of the stain, which while cleanup is a bit easier, totally defeats the purpose of a PENETRATING stain or sealer.

I would recommend against any sort of waterproofing sealer, as they trap the water just like paint, and I have never seen one that is effective for 2 years.

My personal preference, though it limits the architectural coloration possibilities, is ground-contact rated copper compound treated wood (NOT the Wolmanized brown product), which comes green initially but can be retreated with either green or brown solution or can be liquid colorized darker (though not easily to a specific tone) using either of those as a base. My practice is to redo the treatment before installation to ensure thorough treatment, as from the mill it commonly has skips where boards contacted each other or where stacking seperators laid on it, and the ends are commonly very poorly done. This is done after cutting to length, as cut ends have to be retreated anyway.  A simple short deck cleaner soak followed by a light pressure washing and brush or roller re-treating of ONLY the TOP surface every 10 years or so has, for me, reduced visible weathering of the boards and beams to negligible.

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The product has evolved considerably since the lawsuit.

 

I would still do your own research and give you contractor your feedback.  At the end of the day, the cost for whatever board you want will be similar. 

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As stated by others: You get what you pay for.  Many contractors no longer use employees.  The cost/benefit ratio is gone by the time worker's comp. insurance, unemplyment and other taxes are paid.  Especially with the high turnover in our industry.  Many, myself included, have our guys set up as sub-contractors.  That means even if the job is only for a day the duties have been outlined and a set pay to complete those duties has been established from the onset.  It's a better way to manage costs once I got used to it.  Also, it means I can operate cheaper and not have to charge as much to the customer.  My agreements with my guys, which they sign, make it clear that I nor the homeowner are responsible for their safety and medical care should a problem arise and that all parties are relieved of any such obligation.  If you hire a contractor who follows this growing practice ask to see a copy of his sub-contractor agreement.

That being said, a legitimate contractor still has operating cost which vary by area and how they run their business.  I break even at $150/day not including labor and materials so I've got to charge more than that to make money.  To keep the math simple, if I'm paying $250 for a pne day job in labor plus another $300 in materials and $150 operating costs I've got to charge $700 to the customer to break even.  That's if I'm only doing one job a day which is why most of us manage several at a time.  The point I'm trying to make is that someone with the necessary knowledge and experience to build you a safe deck is not going to be cheap.  Knowledge accompanies success which costs money.

I've repaired or restructured several decks built by handymen who should find another profession.  Ask yourself this question when hiring someone for this project: Would I trust this person to build my house?  If the answer is no you need to find someone else.  The deck is just as important.  It's where your family, friends, kids are going to gather and interact.  If it isn't structurally sound it can collapse causing injury or even death.  One last word on decks: Always screw a deck together, don't nail it.

Todd Shell
Todd's Home Services
www.thomeservices.com
San Antonio, TX
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Deck Building reviews in Saint Louis

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Had an appointment with the company and they did not show nor did they return the call to find out if they were coming. Took the morning off work to meet with them.
- Jane M.
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did a complete roofing replacement at my home.
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, was project leader, he did an outstanding job. He was with my project from beginning to end visiting the site probably several hours each day.
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's attention to detail was outstanding. He coordinated everything, all of the material delivery and roofing crews, everything.
My roof is steep (12 pitch), large (5000 sq ft) and somewhat complex and as such required a full week to completely tear-off and replace, although two days were cut short due to heavy rain. My roof has lots of valleys along with full hip and ridge venting which also had to be replaced.
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installed an
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Total Protection Roofing System with ice and water shielding and a full synthetic underlay. They did additional valley work to prevent a return of ice damage. I initially relayed my issues, concerns and problems to
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and he translated them into roofing solutions. The roofing crews did the job exactly as had been described by
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including the special handling of several problem areas.
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did the original on-roof inspection returning to meet with the claims adjuster from my insurance company he made certain the adjustor considered every aspect of my roof . I did contact two other recommended roofers to look at the job, while both provided complete bids, neither seemed to have the level of interest or follow-up that Cardinal and
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had. In their defense this was during a very busy season with lots of storm damage to properties in the area, they did eventually me call back.
On my recommendation two friends also had full roof replacements performed by Cardinal again with
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handling the projects.
At the end of the job
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provided a paid-in-full statement, contractors final release, full
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waivers and an
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roofing system warranty document.
Overall I was very satisfied, I would use Cardinal again.


- James M.
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He is connected and finds the right people and stands behind his work. Scheduling is easy and communication is perfect. There is nothing he hasn’t been able to do and he goes above and beyond with quality.
- Jeff W.
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I am extremely pleased with this company! Quick, courteous responses to all my messages and friendly but professional demeanor on the phone and in person.
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(Owner) and
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(Initial contact) were great, I sent out for bids from multiple highly rated companies in a batch and
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was the first to respond by a solid margin and they continued to be very responsive thereafter.
They also delivered a fantastic bid for the work that was hands down the best and really outdid the competition. Between that and their existing high ratings here, I felt like I just couldn’t go wrong with them.
After deciding on Irish for the job
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and his crew were able to come out early the next day and get to work. They went at it quickly and efficiently, completing the job in good time and its great looking work. I really couldn’t be happier. I’m considering replacing my currently wood tie based retaining wall with one made of concrete/stone blocks one of these days and, while I’ve been playing with the idea of doing it myself, Irish is now definitely going to be on my mind after this experience.
- Lee E.
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It took quite awhile from initial contract to commencement of the work. However, that delay was acceptable to us since we were not in a rush.
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was easy to work with and the guys were friendly and did a really nice job. There was one issue that probably could have been avoided through better communication between the guys/
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/us, but
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wasted no time in making it right and correcting the issue. For me, that is one of the hallmarks of a quality company - sometimes things do go wrong, but a quality company steps up without argument or delay and addresses the problem. Will use again.
- Anne T.
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Due to cost of project i shopped price and reputation hard >> I got four quotes and decided on
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The entire process went well .. But there were some bumps along the road .. First the salesperson was professional and prompt .. His main selling points were The company OWNS its Lumber yard and ALL Products they sell are in stuck (due to their size) He seemed a little too concerned with selling and not listening (but all sales people do that ) .. After we got plan together we agreed on price and set approximate date of install ...after we missed install date of one and then two weeks ..I called and asked What's up ?? The install crew said the particular length of plank i ordered was back ordered and they supplier can't offer a date to receive ...I though ...I asked How is this possible when you own your own lumber yard and carry all product you install are always in stock ??????...then I thought , Oh boy here we go
so after demanding service, a
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solution was offered ( They offered to change the size if plank (
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Well the workers were impressive ..They ripped out old deck and made significant progress on first day ..They finish next day ...this deck is 14'x21' ... VERY IMPRESSIVE !! >> They cleaned up after themselves and job site was immaculate .
After install I notice some pen / pencil
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on about 15-20 boards that would not clean up .. After demanding (once again) They finally came up with a product that cleaned the
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So after some bumps I would say I am very satisfied with
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>> I always think projects with have some bumps and the quality of company depends on how they handle those bumps >>
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Did very well !! Only a little demanding was needed


- bryson H.
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He is good, honest, communicates, on top of things and we've had him do other work before. He is just very trustworthy. He does a lot of remodeling so in this case he subcontracts. He brought in concrete guys, but he watched over them and then he watched over all the other work that was being done and he just made sure it was all going on time and being done right and helped run with gas lines and helped with the electrical work. The concrete is all beautifully done.
- CYNTHIA R.
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Because of scheduling, took about 4 months for work to start.
Great quality of work, beautiful wood working, particularly the fence addition.
Work went very quickly once it began. Guys were good about keeping the front yard clean where it mattered most, but the backyard was a mess for a week.
Final cost did come in over the original quote, as we discovered that the existing porch was poorly supported. The amount went up based on the additional work and material required to fix.
We are overall statisfied with the work, but communication could have been better in terms of scheduling and knowing when and what work was going to be done. We typically use our back door & porch, and one day I came home to find the back porch removed - fortunately my husband had a set of keys to the front door.


- Lori V.

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WSR Roofing & Home Improvement

8299 Highway Yy
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6000 Town and Country Ln
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318 Centerfield Dr
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YAHL CONTRACTING, INC.

903 Palm Dr.
Valley Park

Young Innovations

5235 Butler Hill Estates Drive
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Young Remodeling Company

20 Cedar Park Dr
Florissant

Your Remodeling Source

126 Bear Claw Dr
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Zimmerman Exteriors

4141 East Lake Dr.

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