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"I initially scheduled a tune up, knowing the my 21 year old furnace was in its golden years. We were told it had five cracks in the heat exchange and needed to be" replaced. This didn't surprise me, but I was surprised at how knowledgeable the service technician was on new furnaces and A/Cs. He was able to help me decide which model to get, as well as close estimate on the price including installation. He was also able to walk me through pros and cons on the options routing the vents. The installation went smoothly. It was on time and on budget, and the installers were very friendly. They also suggested that I didn't need a whole house humidifier, but if I ever decided that I did want one in the future, they would change me the same price, without an extra service charge for the additional visit.

-Michael C.

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"The estimator showed up promptly and was very nice and professional. Bid was returned same day as the estimate which was impressive. Pricing was in line with the" other bids I received. Work was scheduled for just two days after. Unfortunately they messed up and failed to show up on the scheduled day. A quick call and they responded quickly. They were professional and apologetic and quickly rescheduled for the following day. Workers showed up on time, work was completed as expected and turned out well.

-Carlos C.

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When should I replace my water heater?

Dear Angie: My water heater is past its expected lifetime. Should I automatically replace it or wait until it fails?

Water heaters

Standard storage tank water heaters typically need to be replaced after about a decade, but they can last years longer with some homeowner maintenance. When the time comes to buy a new one, there are more options for consumers to consider.

More energy-efficient water heaters are coming this year. Learning the facts will help you to replace your water heater on your terms, rather than letting it become a last-minute problem. (Photo courtesy of Angie's List member Joseph K. of Boston)
Water Heaters

Changes coming this year will make water heaters more energy efficient, but may create some difficulties for homeowners.

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Electrical, Heating & A/C, Water Heaters

It's smart to take action to reduce energy use when you're away from home. But find out why top electricians say turning off circuit breakers isn't a good idea.

If you notice moisture around your water heater, you may need to replace it. But first, make sure the water isn't coming from a leak in the fittings or connections to the tank, or from the temperature/pressure overflow pipe, instead of the water heater itself. (Photo by Water Heaters Only Inc.)
Water Heaters

Rumblings? Leaks? Rusty water? More than 10 years old? Don’t wait for a catastrophe: Be alert for these indicators that your water heater is about to fail.

Not only should you know where your water heater is, you should have clear access to it, says Carpenter. (Photo courtesy of Water Heaters Only Inc.)
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Keep your water heater in tip top shape longer by following these simple tips for regular maintenance that could even lower your utility bills.

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You have to put your self in the shoes of a business that is in business to turn a profit of some sort. All businesses have different overhead which in turn decides what their bottom line would be on their services. I personally would not go with an unlicensed professional for this type of install. You are messing with gas, venting issues, electrical wiring{electric water heater} and updated code issues such as a drain pan and tempature and relief drain lines for heaters that currently do not have them. I do agree that there are some companies that are way out of line for their installs but most of these companies are the really big companies that have very high overheads  I would assume. Tank type water heaters have changed over the last several years and with these safety changes come bigger prices. The price of steel thanks to China is skyrocketing and tank type water heaters are made of steel. Most wholesale plumbing supply companies cannot match what the big box stores are selling at retail to consumers. I happen to think from research that heaters such as Rheem, Bradford White and AOSmith who have been in business forever make a better product than what you can buy in the big box outlets. You also have to take in consideration the location of the water heater that is being replaced. Is it in the house, basement, garage or attic. Most 40 and 50 gallon water heaters that are purchased in a plumbing wholesale store in Texas cost between 300-340 for a 6 year warranty heater with 6 year on parts and tank. Speaking of warranty. Most big box companies will take a least 24 hours to a week to get your warranty problem taken care of. Most reputable plumbing companies will give same day service if they installed the heater.

So lets break down a typical install at cost to a licensed plumber in Texas

Heater: $315, water shut off $6.50, water flex lines or unions to code $20, gas flex line and cut off to code $12, misc fittings $15, Total $368.50 Lets add a 35% profit which is some what low  for a business $129, Total 497.50

This doesnt  include permits, pan and drain or any venting issues. The vent must go from the heater to the outside of roof using double wall vent.

Cost of permit on average $60

Most plumbing companies allow for 3 hours of time for a water heater. This includes picking the new one up. Delivering out to house. Draining and removing old water heater. Hauling off old heater. Installing new heater up to code. Going down to city and pulling permit.

Average Labor charges for heater installs $400

That would make this install run without extras on any code issues $957.50

I just had a 50 gallon gas water heater installed in my house for $1200 but I needed a pan installed. I used a licensed plumber.

 

 

 

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The primary complaint about tankless water heaters is that, unless you pay for a really oversized one, they do not keep up with high demands like clothes washer or tub or shower, or if you have multiple hot water demands going at one time.

The reason hot water heaters are used is because they can heat up and store enough water for an ordinary demand like a shower or clothes washing, and larger ones like 50-60 gallons can handle multiple simultaneous demands. Out 60 gallon heater handles washing machine, dish wahser, and a shower simultaneously without going from hot to warm. An on-demand system heats the water as it flows through the heater, with production of hot water having to equal the total demand at any instant. This they can rarely do - especially gas-fired ones, for which the power is usually much cheaper than with electricity.

Google the search phrase - on demand water heaters

to read articles on the issue, and EPA and EnergyStar program writeups. Consumer Reports also has comparisons and evaluations (though you have to subscribe to read review articles).

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There could be. Different municipalities have different rules (codes). However, I have never heard of a plumber being the code enforcement guy. I have never heard of a plumber being able to collect a fine from a homeowner. It may cost you $150 to bring it up to code, but that should be included in the repair cost. You would need to check with your city (usually Department of Code Enforcement or Plumbing Commission). If he put it in writing, you need to send them a copy.
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Make sure they get a permit if required. Ask if they will haul away the old. Type of new heater installed and tank warrantee. What kind of parts will the price include, you should have an expansion tank installed and make sure they counter balance the pressure to match the static pressure in the home. Should also include new dielectic unions, do not reuse the old ones. See what the rate for extras is in case they need to do additional work. Check references if possible.

Tim Littrell
Littrell Plumbing and Bath Designs
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Water Heater Installation And Repair reviews in Madison

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The two man crew,
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and
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, were the best home improvement people I've dealt with in many years. Very efficient and
very tidy. High quality work. Always willing to listen to my questions on this or that. Estimator
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was also very helpful in working out the plan, which required some thought.
- Joseph B.
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is a good partner to have. I called
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and they installed a new frost-free exterior faucet, kitchen faucet, bathroom sink bowl (sealant & grout applied appropriately), bathroom sink faucet, and wax toilet ring.
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adjusted the hot water tank and also gave me sound advice about the needs of a new dishwasher and clothes washer. I was looking for professionalism, price, and quality and certainly got that. All went according to plan and I'll be calling them again when I'm ready in 2015 for "Part 2".
- Victoria M.
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As expressed in a previous post, the cost is based on a home warranty that we have for our new home.
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was very prompt and prepared for figuring out why our water heater was not igniting. He took the time to check the currents and wiring first and then turned the heater of. He disconnected a hose that was connecting the vent motor to the piece that tells the water heater to turn on the gas an light the flame. He blew into the tube to get out any condensation and connected the hose back in both locations and the flame ignited right away.
The information he gave me was also very helpful such as which pieces on a water heater are likely to go first as well as how long a water heater can last a homeowner. Another thing that I learned was that if it was to happen again where the vent fan is continuously running is to shut the water heater and fan off otherwise the vent motor could burn itself out and we would have had to replace the entire water heating unit. Great information for saving me a thousand or more dollars.
I will be calling again if any other plumbing issues arise.
- Paul G.
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I'm an engineer & very handy person, & I like to do as much of my own work as possible, to be sure its done to my satisfaction. But I don't have the muscle, motivation & time to do every job myself. Over the past 22 yrs, I've called on
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for my 2-flat (where I live & rent out 1 apt) & at a community theatre where I do volunteer maintenance and other tasks.
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employees have always been intelligent, friendly & professional. The work has been correct & aesthetically pleasing, & well cleaned up afterwards. Properly installed plumbing is very important, since leaking pipes, etc., can do a lot of damage & be a real headache. You can probably find less expensive plumbers, but
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has always done my jobs right & at a fair price.
- Gretchen W.
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No hot water this morning, again for 3rd time in several days. Turned on switch to restart water heater, and called
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at 8:30 AM. Service Manager worked to fit visit into our schedule for the day.
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arrived at just the time they said he would. He easily diagnosed the problem and then proceeded to explain why it had been shutting off and what we needed. Said he had what he needed to do the job, and as he was installing he noticed that the new valve was not working either. He called into
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's office and they sent someone to our house with the new valve for
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to install.
He was very efficient, and certainly very friendly. We appreciated his assistance, and were amazed that he did not charge us for time it took him to get the new valve delivered and install it.
We have used
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for many years. Very satisfied with everything.
- Lynn J.
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The plumbers did show up on time. There was an issue in shutting my water off as the handle broke off in their hand when they tried to turn it off. I don't dispute that this can happen.
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did show me his work when finished and explained how to shut off the water with the new valves that he installed. I noticed that the floor was wet and there were dirty foot prints but decided I could clean it up when they left. Within 10 minutes of them leaving I noticed that there was a leak. i called
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and he said he was on the west side of
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and would get back when he finished his next job. I explained that I needed to be to work in less than 2 hours and he said he would be back by then. He was not back by then and when I called him again he suggested I just leave my door unlocked for him. I had no choice. He called me later to tell me that the leak was repaired. When I returned home from work I found that it was still leaking. I called twice in the morning and finally
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called back and said he was sending a plumber over to make the repairs. The repairs were made and so far no leaks (2 days). I told
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in our initial phone call that I wanted an energy efficient water heater and asked him what kind he installed as MG&E was offering $50.00 rebates on many brands and I could just give him a model number. He explained to me that he only installed energy efficient heaters and it cost the last person $85 more to get the $50 rebate. Foolishly I believed him. I now have a water heater with an annual energy rating of costing $102 more per year than the 20 year old unit he replaced. Shame on me for that one. Overall, I am very disappointed with this company and would never use them again.
- Kari B.
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We played phone tag for quite a few days. He came to the house, looked at the situation, we talked about possible models and siting for awhile. He said he's send me a proposal. He never sent it. I went with someone else.
- Linda W.
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They offered a better price for a better water heater than other contractors.
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was knowledgeable and made good suggestions. He worked with me on the best place to vent the heater. They were professional and punctual. Everything was done when and as they promised. They cleaned everything up perfectly. He and his colleague are both Master Plumbers - excellent work. I'd use them again.
- Linda W.

All Water Heater Installers in Madison, WI

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4 Lakes Plumbing Inc

4617 Dovetail Dr
Madison

A+ Plumbing

11014 Blackhawk Dr
Blue Mounds

A-A Exteriors

N2575 Orchard Way
Waupaca

Adams Columbia Electric Cooperative

401 E Lake St
Friendship

Al Beyers Indoor Comfort Systems

209 W North St
Cambridge

All Clear Plumbing LLC

112 E Kohler St
Sun Prairie

All Comfort Services Inc

5245 Voges Rd
Madison

American Home Shield

889 Ridge Lake Blvd

AMERICAN PRIDE AUTORIDE

34 N GALLATIN AVE

AppliancePartsPros.com

16501 Ventura Blvd Ste 500

Aqua Care Services, Inc.

39785 W. Wisconsin Ave.
Oconomowoc

Aqua Plumbing

Sun Prairie

Arlington Hardware Co Inc

303 S Main St
Arlington

Avid Plumbing LLC

2330 Vondron Rd
Madison

BADGER CHIMNEY , LLC

2710 MCDIVITT RD
Madison

Badger Water LLC

1001 N Page St
Stoughton

Benjamin Plumbing Inc

5396 King James Way
Madison

Bexar Maintenance Supply

1275 Red Bluff Rd.

BigTen Plumbing LLC

979 New Hampton Dr.
Oregon

BUTLER W F PLUMBING INC

2602 MONROE ST
Madison

CaPaul Plumbing, LLC

624 W Mohawk Trail
De Forest

Cardinal Heating & A/C Inc

222 Linnerud Dr
Sun Prairie

Chris Elke Plumbing

4705 Lafayette Dr
Madison

Clark Heating & Cooling

201 Business Park Cir
Stoughton

Complete Water Solutions

311 E Lake Street
Silver Lake

CONSUMERS CO-OP HEATING & COOLING

740 PHILLIPS BLVD
Sauk City

Cooper Plumbing LLC

161 Horizon Dr
Verona

Culligan Total Water

5002 World Dairy Dr
Madison

DAVE JONES PLUMBING & HEATING INC

2225 KILGUST RD
Madison

Derek Frank Plumbing, LLC

1008 Fish Hatchery Rd
Madison

E & D Water Works Inc

915 N Parker Dr
Janesville

E-Z PLUMBING CO INC

400 LINCOLN ST
Verona

Easy Way

1310 Baitinger Ct
Sun Prairie

EcoSmart

400 Captain Neville Dr

Electric Medic - A division of Gaffney Electric

1897 Broadway Rd
Wisconsin Dells

Fitchburg Plumbing

5241 Dommers Dr
Fitchburg

Footville Heating & Cooling Inc

421 Highway 11 W
Footville

Forest Plumbing LLC

6645 Glenview Rd
De Forest

Foster Plumbing And Repair

E5270 County Rd WC
Spring Green

Four Season Heating & Cooling Inc

215 W Netherwood St
Oregon

Fowler Heating & Air Conditioning

4503 Wisconsin Ave
Mc Farland

Gene Pachal Plumbing llc

7127 State Road 113
Dane

H2O Works LLC

S 4076 Brennan Rd
Baraboo

Hammer Builders LLC

9830 Dunlap Hollow Rd
Mazomanie

Harker Heating & Cooling

87 W Beltline Hwy
Madison

High Tech Heating & AC Inc

2395 Highway BB
Cottage Grove

Hometown Plumbing LLC

3610 Lexington Ave
Madison

Howe Brothers Plumbing LLC

1215 Williamson St
Madison

Innovative Plumbing, LLC

135 Emily Ln
Darien

J O Plumbing Incorporated

P. O. Box 646
De Forest

Jensen Plumbing & Heating Inc

204 W Lake St
Lake Mills

K & N Services

9920 W St Rd 213
Beloit

Landmark Services Cooperative

1401 Landmark Dr
Cottage Grove

laurie electric and contracting

6143 dell dr.
Madison

LICHTFELD PLUMBING

5001 FEMRITE DR
Madison

LORENTZ PLUMBING

2406 WILLARD AVE
Madison

MADISON PLUMBING

5021 W NETHERWOOD RD
Oregon

Mefford Plumbing LLC

5850 Knickmeier Rd
Mazomanie

Mr Sparky LLC

4840 Ivywood Trl
Mcfarland

Oasen Plumbing

3862 Johns St
Madison

OLIVER'S PLUMBING & REMODEL

PO BOX 72
Sun Prairie

Olson Heating, Cooling & App LLC

214 E Lincoln St
Mount Horeb

PERKINS HEATING

6897 NORWAY RD
Sun Prairie

Pete's Plumbing Service LLC

3734 Richard St
Madison

Plumbing Pros

917 Walsh Road STE 106
Madison

Plumbing Pros

917 Walsh Road
Madison

Plumbing Specialist

676 Sugar Ave
Belleville

Prairie Pumbing & Heating Inc

402 John Quincy Adams St
Sauk City

PREFERRED ELECTRIC & HEATING

6891 LEONARD RD
De Forest

Project Home

1966 S Stoughton Rd
Madison

Property Image LLC

PO Box 44181
Madison

Quality Fireplace & Chimney Service

407 N. Grand Ave.
Waukesha

Renovate This Place, LLC

17 Arial Cir
Madison

Robin Hood Plumbing, LLC

10 Iris Bloom Cir
Madison

S & S Plumbing LLC

N7333 Rock Lake Road
Lake Mills

Sauk Plains Plumbing & Pumps Inc

1620 Park St
Cross Plains

Schulz Plumbing

4684 Toepfer Rd
Middleton

Shackelford Heating & Cooling

2117 S Stoughton Rd
Madison

Sheldon Plumbing Inc

221 Industrial Dr
Verona

Solar Pro WI LLC

1213 Melby Drive
Madison

Stahl Plumbing Service LLC

PO Box 620425
Middleton

STOPPLEWORTH PLUMBING LTD

7750 US HWY. 14
Middleton

Sure-Fire Inc

617 Washington St
Horicon

Swinehart Plumbing

375 N. Burr Oak
Oregon

Swinehart Plumbing

375 N. Burr Oak
Oregon

SYSTEM AND REPAIRS

PO BOX 3091
Madison

Terry Kahl Plumbing Inc

305 Industrial Cir
Stoughton

Terrytown Plumbing Inc

465 S Blvd
Baraboo

Triggs Plumbing

1723 Beld St
Madison

Warmzone

12637 S 265 W Suite 100

Warren Heating & Air Conditioning

1741 Commercial Ave
Madison

Waubesa Plumbing LLC.

5529 Sheil DR.
Oregon

We Aim To Please

4023 E Tower Rd
Mc Farland

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