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I second the original question (still unanswered). Speaking as someone who logged in today to try to find an attorney, I see this category as one that's exactly what I have my Angie's List membership for:

1. It's important that I find a good one
2. I'm not an expert enough to know myself who is a good one
3. The industry is full of advertisements and misinformation
4. I wish I knew what experiences other people have had


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I don't care about lawns--I planted mine in clover and don't have to mow it. When I do need to mow I use a rotary Fiskars mower, which is great--or a scythe. That's right--a scythe (the European type, which is smaller, and it's very good exercise). Gas-powered mowers, chemical fertilizers and weed killers--all nasty stuff that gets into everyone's air, soil, and water. I'm sure my neighbor doesn't like my wildflowers, semi-wild pockets of fruit bushes, and unmown areas and yes, dandelions (I have 10 acres) but that's too bad. It's better habitat for wildlife, especially the pollinators on which our food supply depends. I think this obsession with the Great American Lawn is a waste of time and resources. Plant some food instead.


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I'm not sure Angie et. al. want you to have a complete answer to this question. By re-subscribing at the Indiana State Fair in 2012, I think I paid $20.00 per year for a multi- year subscription. Maybe even less. At the other extreme--and I hope my memory isn't faulty about this--I think the price, for my area, for ONE year was an outrageous $70.00. And they debited me automatically without warning. I had to opt out of that automatic charge. I like Angie's List, but if some of the companies they monitor behaved the way they do in this respect, they'd be on some sort of Pages of Unhappiness. I'll be interested to see if this comment gets published or censored out of existence.
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That's very difficult to answer without seeing the house. As one poster said, the prep is the most important part. On newer homes that don't have a lot of peeling paint, the prep can be very minimal even as low as a couple or a few hundred dollars for the prep labor.

On a 100 year old home with 12 coats of peeling paint on it, then the prep costs can be very high and can easily exceed 50% of the job's labor cost.

A 2100 sq ft two story home could easily cost $1000 just for the labor to prep for the paint job. That number could climb too. Throw in lots of caullking  or window glazing, and you could be talking a couple or a few hundred dollars more for labor.

Painting that home with one coat of paint and a different color on the trim could run roughly $1000 or more just for labor. Add a second coat  and that could cost close to another $1000 for labor.

For paint, you may need 20 gallons of paint. You can pay from $30-$70 for a gallon of good quality exterior paint. The manufacturer of the paint should be specified in any painting contract. Otherwise, the contractor could bid at a Sherwin-Williams $60 per gallon paint and then paint the house with $35 Valspar and pocket the difference. $25 dollars per gallon times 20 gallons? That's a pretty penny too.

That was the long answer to your question. The short answer is $2000 to $4000 and up, depending upon the amount of prep, the number of coats, the amount of trim, and the paint used.

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You have to put your self in the shoes of a business that is in business to turn a profit of some sort. All businesses have different overhead which in turn decides what their bottom line would be on their services. I personally would not go with an unlicensed professional for this type of install. You are messing with gas, venting issues, electrical wiring{electric water heater} and updated code issues such as a drain pan and tempature and relief drain lines for heaters that currently do not have them. I do agree that there are some companies that are way out of line for their installs but most of these companies are the really big companies that have very high overheads  I would assume. Tank type water heaters have changed over the last several years and with these safety changes come bigger prices. The price of steel thanks to China is skyrocketing and tank type water heaters are made of steel. Most wholesale plumbing supply companies cannot match what the big box stores are selling at retail to consumers. I happen to think from research that heaters such as Rheem, Bradford White and AOSmith who have been in business forever make a better product than what you can buy in the big box outlets. You also have to take in consideration the location of the water heater that is being replaced. Is it in the house, basement, garage or attic. Most 40 and 50 gallon water heaters that are purchased in a plumbing wholesale store in Texas cost between 300-340 for a 6 year warranty heater with 6 year on parts and tank. Speaking of warranty. Most big box companies will take a least 24 hours to a week to get your warranty problem taken care of. Most reputable plumbing companies will give same day service if they installed the heater.

So lets break down a typical install at cost to a licensed plumber in Texas

Heater: $315, water shut off $6.50, water flex lines or unions to code $20, gas flex line and cut off to code $12, misc fittings $15, Total $368.50 Lets add a 35% profit which is some what low  for a business $129, Total 497.50

This doesnt  include permits, pan and drain or any venting issues. The vent must go from the heater to the outside of roof using double wall vent.

Cost of permit on average $60

Most plumbing companies allow for 3 hours of time for a water heater. This includes picking the new one up. Delivering out to house. Draining and removing old water heater. Hauling off old heater. Installing new heater up to code. Going down to city and pulling permit.

Average Labor charges for heater installs $400

That would make this install run without extras on any code issues $957.50

I just had a 50 gallon gas water heater installed in my house for $1200 but I needed a pan installed. I used a licensed plumber.

 

 

 

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Todd said it best.

An itemized list / cost breakdown, more often than not is used against the contractor when it is shared with other builders who will then beat it.

Good contractors use good people, and good people cost more.  Just the cost of having the appropriate insurance / bond can be the difference between winning a job or losing it ot a 'lower bid'.

It is the rule of three; there is Good, Cheap and Fast.  You can have any two:  Good and Cheap, won't be Fast; Good and Fast, won't be Cheap;  Cheap and Fast, won't be Good!

When comparing bids, it isn't the cheapest or the 'nicest' person you should select.   You should understand why there is a large price difference (it shows there are gaps in your design program or what you have asked for specifically, which means there may be arguments later).  If most of the bids are in line, and one is way high or way low,  you want to know why before dismissing or selecting them.

A price-only decision almost always costs more in the long run. 

Good luck!

Boat And Auto Upholsterers in Long Beach

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AAA CONVERTIBLE & SUNROOF

738 W 17TH ST
Costa Mesa

Adam's Auto Body

16601 S Vermont Ave
Gardena

Alliance Conversions

2648 E Workman Ave
West Covina

Allure Detail

1507 7th St
Santa Monica

Big Al'S Auto Detailing

340 Industrial Way
Bellflower

Bill's Auto Upholstery & Tint

867 W Lambert Rd
Brea

BUD'S Beach Cities

2637 SAINT LOUIS ST
Signal Hill

Chico's Carpet Cleaners

8830 1/2 Guthrie Ave
Los Angeles

DFL INTERIORS

24450 HAWTHORNE BLVD
Torrance

Doodle Concept

9427 Norwalk Blvd
Santa Fe Springs

EBERHARDT'S TIRE AND AUTOMOTIVE

2335 E ORANGETHORPE AVE
Fullerton

Family Ayalas Upholstery & Refinishing

7638 Deering Ave
Canoga Park

Foam Mart

4913 Sepulveda Blvd
Culver City

Fx Pro Inc

1617 Superior Ave
Costa Mesa

Home Base Upholstery

3518 Eucalyptus Ave.
Long Beach

I Work With You Carpet Cleaning, LLC

3870 Crenshaw Blvd
Los Angeles

IGM Auto Repair

6205 Kester Ave
Van Nuys

Jc's Fine Upholstery

1501 W. Cowles Street
Long Beach

Legacy MD

Corona

Maiocco Designs

9663 Santa Monica Blvd
Beverly Hills

MARIE TRINGALI

0 Private Home Residence

Marine Upholstery

1861 W Adams Blvd
Los Angeles

MIKE'S UPHOLSTERY & HOME DECOR,INC

9040 Valley Blvd
Rosemead

MJ's Custom Upholstery

South El Monte

ML Upholstery

1861 W Adams Blvd
Los Angeles

One Stop Auto Shop

7935 Santa Monica Blvd
Los Angeles

PACIFIC STEREO

10241 Indiana Ave
Riverside

Pelican Joes

186 N Marina Dr
Long Beach

Precision

Pasadena

Premier Motorcoach

1946 E Occidental Street
Santa Ana

PREMIER SUEDE & LEATHER CLEANERS

3419 VIA LIDO
Newport Beach

Pro Quality Carpet & Tile Cleaning

17252 Hawthorne Blvd.
Redondo Beach

Ramirez Custom Upholstery

1516 W Foothill Blvd.
Rialto

Rene Guzman Studio

1255 S Hudson Ave
Los Angeles

Restaurant Booth Upholstery 310-409-6799

2513 S La Salle Ave
Los Angeles

SAN PEDRO AUTO BODY

789 W BATTERY ST
San Pedro

SIGHTWAVES

1059 Colorado Blvd
Los Angeles

Spin-Well Fabrication

306 E State Rd 60

Stanley Steemer

841 W Foothill Blvd
Azusa

Stanley Steemer

9051 Rochester Ave
Rancho Cucamonga

Stanley Steemer

1761 Massachusetts Ave
Riverside

Stanley Steemer

201 Bernoulli Cir
Oxnard

Stanley Steemer

4530 E Eisenhower Cir
Anaheim

Stanley Steemer

1204 E Thousand Oaks Blvd
Thousand Oaks

Stanley Steemer

32773 Calle Perfecto
San Juan Capistrano

Sure Fit Auto Interior Restoration

1406 W Magnolia Blvd
Burbank

TERMITESLAYER

2111 Ramona Ave
La Habra

The Prestige Companies Auto Upholstery

1556 So. Anaheim Blvd., Suite C
Anaheim

Thornton Auto Upholstery

111 S Hathaway St
Santa Ana

UCM Cleaning Services

122 S Garey St
Los Angeles

Upholstery Decor Inc.

5788 Hollister Ave.
Santa Barbara.

Upholstery Pasadena (213) 509-1516

510 East Walnut Street
Pasadena

Upland Collision Craft

1785 W Arrow Route
Upland

Uribes Upholstery

1601 W. Commonwealth
Fullerton

VITO'S VINYL REPAIR

PO Box 2924
Laguna Hills

WAVES AUTOSOUND

375 Bristol St Ste 60
Costa Mesa

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