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"Rich, the owner, showed up promptly for an estimate professionally dressed. He listened to our needs and was able to help with many other suggestions not given by" other contractors. He thoroughly examined the job and made us see clearly that our roof was caving in from lack of support. His suggestions gave us confidence in his ability, we could see he knew exactly what he was talking about. He brought his crew over once we decided to go ahead and did a "walk through" to ensure we all knew exactly what was being done.
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were courteous, knowledgeable, they were extremely tidy with equipment and materials (even hiding such behind our large trees so it was not an eyesore from the kitchen window).
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arrived at least 15 minutes early every morning, they were professional, cleaned up the porch and yard beautifully when they finished. Rich and
took the time to thoroughly go over everything they had done. We are thrilled with the work and how it was accomplished.

-Catherine H.

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"The estimator came to our house and presented several different options that he had to cover our
troughs so acorns and leaves would not clog" the
troughs and down spouts. He was friendly and informative. We made our selection. He then measured how much we needed and gave us a quote. We thought the quote was fair and signed up for Champion to do the job. We gave him a down payment of half the total amount. He made an appointment for the installer with a range of dates that the work would be done. As it turns out, the installer came on the last day of this range and installed the gutter helmets. He was friendly, he answered all of our questions and he did a great job. We payed him the balance owed after he was done and we inspected his work.

-Rodney W.

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Todd said it best.

An itemized list / cost breakdown, more often than not is used against the contractor when it is shared with other builders who will then beat it.

Good contractors use good people, and good people cost more.  Just the cost of having the appropriate insurance / bond can be the difference between winning a job or losing it ot a 'lower bid'.

It is the rule of three; there is Good, Cheap and Fast.  You can have any two:  Good and Cheap, won't be Fast; Good and Fast, won't be Cheap;  Cheap and Fast, won't be Good!

When comparing bids, it isn't the cheapest or the 'nicest' person you should select.   You should understand why there is a large price difference (it shows there are gaps in your design program or what you have asked for specifically, which means there may be arguments later).  If most of the bids are in line, and one is way high or way low,  you want to know why before dismissing or selecting them.

A price-only decision almost always costs more in the long run. 

Good luck!
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No.  Heck no.  Here's a good example.  We very recently needed to find someone to install about 500 square feet of exotic wood flooring (we already have the materials).  We contacted about 12-15 top-rated Angieslist contractors.  Out of the few who did get back to us, we got 5 quotes, 2 of them were literally just over the phone.  They "didn't feel it would be necessary to even see the space". 

 

Here were the bids: 

$4000 (sight unseen), $2800 (sight unseen), $2500, $1500, $1450

 

We didn't "share our budget for this".  Why would we?  We asked them to bid the job.  That's it.  All of them should be well-qualified and they are all highly rated.  We were interested in how THEY value their time/resources - for an apples/apples job. 

 

Do you still think that you should tell them about your budget?  Your choice.  From my standpoint it isn't their business.  I'm asking them to bid on a project.  Invariably I'll get some very high bids, medium bids and a few more reasonable ones - ALL from "highly rated contractors". 

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The answer depends on your contract.  If you do not have a written contract, you need to begin documenting everything.  Begin by using a calendar and marking the days the contractor started, worked, you had to speak to him/her about the work, etc.

Next photograph the work you feel is sub-par.  If work has been corrected, photograph it now to have a record of its condition.  If you have any "original" or "before work began" pictures get those together, too.

If you do have written contract, see what it says about warranties, complaints, failure to finish / comply, etc.  Holding the money may end up with the contractor taking YOU to court for the funds - you cannot just hold the money.  You need to document in writing what is wrong, what you expect to happen (be specific) and when it should happen by.  A good contract will explain if and how money can be held, how the arbitration or complaint is filed, etc.

You should also invite another contractor to come in and bid the work to finish the job.  They can confirm the quality of the work and give you a price to fix / finish the job.  This gives you justification for holding the funds and an option to finish the job.

If the contractor is not willing to fix the work or listen to direction, do not allow them back in the house.  A judge will ask you why you let them continue to do work if you found it unacceptable.  Take back the key or access to the building - you can also attempt holding any materials or tools as collateral if the cost of repair is higher than the amount owed.  Again, document what you are holding, its estimated value (google or ebay search), etc.

Finally, in writing you should fire the contractor and state the exact reason(s).  Document everything; if it is done in person after they leave make notes of what was said, agreed upon and disputed.  If you are satisfied that what you have paid is fair compensation for the work done, make sure this is noted in the letter firing the contractor.  If you feel money is owed, you will need to file a small claim in your local court.  Include the documentation you made, notes, letters, etc. when you file your claim so the judge will have a copy of everything.  Don't forget to contact the BBB.

Do not wait for the court date; go ahead and hire the other contractor and have the work completed.  Bring this invoice to court with you (file it before the court date if you can).  Bring photos of the finished work (again, file it with the court before the date if possible).  You must show what good quality work looks like vs the poor quality work.

Otherwise it will be a your word against the contractor and you will most likely lose, (the contract is a promise to pay for work) or even if you "win" you will most likely split the difference between the argued amount of money.  Also be prepared for the contractor to file a small court claim against you.  Same process as above, except now you will respond to the summons with a copy of your stuff to defend your reason for holding funds instead of asking for money back.

Good luck!
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Herlonginc's answer stated that it is not the contractor's job to pay for materials and labor to do the job. I say baloney - a reputable, established contractor has the funds (or a business operations line of credit) to "carry" the job between interim or partial payments, each of which should be keyed to completion of distinct easily measured mileposts in the job, and for a homeowner I would say should be in not more than 20% increments for jobs exceeding a week or so. For shorter jobs, then an initial payment, 50% completion, and completion would be normal. His cost of carry funds is part of his cost of doing business, and is figured as part of his overhead.Bear in mind when he is buying materials and paying labor, his materials he typically pays for on a 10-30 day invoice, and his labor typically a week or two after they work, so he is not really "fronting" that much money if you are giving him weekly or biweekly interim payments, on a typical residential job.

If he does not have the funds to buy materials (excepting possibly deposit on special-order or luxury items, which still typically are 10-30 day invoiceable to him) and hire personnel then he is a fly-by-night operation, and he should not be bidding that size job. You should never (other than MAYBE an earnest deposit of not more than the LESSER of 10% or $5000) let the payments get ahead of the approved/inspected work progress - typically payment should be 10-20% BEHIND the progress, with at least 10% retained at the effective end of work until final inspections and completion of the final "punchlist".

That promotes rapid continuation of the work, discourages the all-too common nightmare of contractors taking on more work than they can handle so they leave your job for weeks or months to go work on someone else's job (frequently to start that someone else's new job so he can get the job), and does not leave you out a tremendous amount of cash if he does not finish and you have to hire another contractor to finish the job. Remember, if you have to hire a new contractor to finish the job, he will charge you a lot more than the original bid to finish someone else's unfinished mess.

This may seem cynical, but having started in the construction business about 50 years ago and seeing the shenanigans that a lot of contractors pull you cannot be too safe. You have to remember contractors are like any other people - I would say maybe 10% are outright crooks, another 25% or so will pull a fast one or overcharge if the opportunity presents itself, maybe 30% will do the work but not any better than they are forced to, about 25% are good conscientious reputable workmen, and the last 10% or so are really spectacular - conscientious, fair, and efficient craftsmen. This top 35% are the only ones you should have bidding in the first place. Therefore, only get bids from long-term reputable firms (so you shake out the marginal short-timers with less experience and also generally less ability to finish the job on budget and schedule), only those that have good RECENT references, and preferably with excellent word-of-mouth recommendation from people you know and trust. That way, you are starting right off with the cream of the crop, so hopefully whichever one bids low should be a good choice.

NEVER start with bids, then check the references of the low bidder - why even consider a vendor or contractor who you do not have faith in from the start ? Get references and short-list you possibles BEFORE you ask for bids.

Low bids - that is another matter - commonly the low bidder is NOT who you want, especially if he is significantly lower than several others, which might mean he is desperate for work, made a math error, or did not correctly figure the entire scope of work. You want a reasonable bid with someone you connect with and trust - that is worth a lot more in the success of the job than the absolute lowest bid.

 

Sunroom And Patio reviews in Grand Rapids

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Rating
Although the quality of the windows and the insulated panels is
excellent, they did a poor job with the finish work where the sun room
connected to the existing house. They typically used a very light
weight plastic panel to cover up the old siding. as the room sits
between 2 and 3 feet above grade, they constructed a set of wood steps
down to the sidewalk. These steps had to be completely rebuilt once and
a year later the railings are ready to fall off. They did not follow
through with the City building inspector to close out the permits
resulting in me being notified by the City that permits were being
closed due to lack of any communication. The inspector found issues
with both the wiring and the steps. I fixed the wiring myself and
Champion never returned to do anything about the substandard railing.
In addition, the work started later than they had indicated and took
probably twice as long to complete. I like the sun room but would
probably not recommend Champion for this type of work.
- Judson S.

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4 SEASONS HOME CRAFTERS

4788 GRAND HAVEN RD
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6186 Fordwick dr

A&M Siding Of W Michigan

11830 Stultz St NE
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AALDERINK ELECTRIC

341 LINCOLN AVE
Holland

Affordable Fence

12370 State Rd
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ALCOR INC

O742 CHICAGO DR
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AMADEUS REMODELING & CONSTRUCTION

23726 W COUNTRY LINE RD
Sand Lake

Amp Electric

4910 S Hilton Park Rd
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Anderson Home & Restoration LLC

3850 Murray Lake Ave
Lowell

Beckett Home Improvement

1348 Front Ave NW
Grand Rapids

BENCHMARK WOOD STUDIO

12969 GREENLY ST
Holland

BHL Homes

3851 Model Ct SE
Grand Rapids

Black Dog Construction

317 S 7th St
Grand Haven

Blackberry Window & Door Systems

6477 W KL Ave
Kalamazoo

Blue Water Pools Inc

O-465 Lake Michigan Dr NW
Grand Rapids

Bob's Ext Contract Inc.

8817 N 39 Th St
Augusta

Bosworth Builders LLC

3692 Whitetail Trail
Marne

Brad Couch Builders

3779 Whispering Woods Dr
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9410 SW Greenville Rd
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Bradfield Home Improvement and Remodeling LLC

1107 South Griffin St
Grand Haven

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3082 LOOP RD
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Builders License Training Institute

5112 US 31 N
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Built Solid Renovations LLC

123 Main
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Bushwood Construction Co. LLC

1621 Lockhart Ave NW
Grand Rapids

BUSSCHER CONSTRUCTION

2922 BLUE STAR HWY
Saugatuck

Carbon Construction Company

3171 W. Carleton Rd
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carpenter homes

719 n wilson
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Champion

12121 Champion Way

Champion Window of Grand Rapids

4717 Broadmoor Ave SE
Grand Rapids

Chandonnet Builders

2471 Whitehall rd
Muskegon

Christopher Framing

8656 Taylor St

Chucks Do It All Maintenance LLC

610 Pleasant St SE
Grand Rapids

Clark's Construction

396 W Lakewood Blvd
Holland

Constructive Remodeling Solutions

6660 28th St SE
Grand Rapids

Copper Ridge Construction LLC

10434 Shaner Ave.
Rockford

Crosby Construction Company

6026 Kalamazoo Ave
Grand Rapids

Custom Carpentry & Design

760 Greenbrier Dr SE
Grand Rapids

Custom Upgrades, LLC.

747 44th St SW
Wyoming

Daimler Builders

3551R Vineyard Ave NE
Grand Rapids

Darpel & Associates Builders, Inc.

240 South St.
Fennville

DAVID SYSWERDA BUILDER

8070 N ASTERWOOD CT
Middleville

Davies Builders LLC

356 Summit Ave NE
Rockford

DE HAAN TILE & FLOOR COVERING

6522 DIVISION AVE S
Grand Rapids

DEBOER BUILDING LLC

3292 BRANISHA NE
Grand Rapids

Detailed Exteriors

11932 Jonker Way
Holland

DreamScape Designs & landscaping

791 E 16th St.
Holland

Dreamscapes Construction

7110 Walker rd
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Dulyea Construction

7042 Bouman Drive
Middleville

DVS Construction LLC

4483 Sunningdale Ct
Hudsonville

Fortuna Construction

4030 Egypt Valley Ave NE
Ada

GALLAGHER DESIGN & DEVELOPMENT

851 FULTON ST W
Grand Rapids

Gallagher Design Inc.

851 Fulton St W
Grand Rapids

Gebhardt Seamless Gutter

15551 Northland Dr
Cedar Springs

Geurink Remodeling & Electric Inc.

2537 Floral Dr.
Zeeland

Gilbert Construction

4283 Sand Valley Dr NE
Rockford

GREAT LAKES DECKING & FENCE

5970 15 Mile Rd NE
Cedar Springs

GROOT BUILDERS & REALTY

971 Rosewood St.
Jenison

Hawk Construction

15 Oak Openings
Delton

HI-LO BUILDERS INC

9617 BAUMHOFF AVE NW
Sparta

His Builder LLC

2855 34th Street
Allegan

Home Specialists LLC

237 Steele St
Grand Rapids

Hudson Home Improvement

1167 Madison Ave SE Ste 7
Grand Rapids

Hudsonville Contractors LLC

7559 36th Ave
Hudsonville

HWC Home Works Corporation

2010 Porter St SW
Grand Rapids

HYLEN BUILDERS LLC

13135 STATE RD
Nunica

J & S Siding Inc

PO Box 547
Byron Center

J&J Interior Finish, LLC

6977 Hammond Ave

Jack's Wholesale Windows

11830 Shaver Road
Schoolcraft

Jarzembowski Builders

PO Box 1855
Holland

JBJ Builders Inc.

9299 Towering Oaks Dr
Comstock Park

Jeff Deters Builders, Inc.

3566 Walnut park Dr.
Hamilton

john schwander

rockford
Rockford

Jon Yetzke

13050 Lakeshore Drive
Grand Haven

Jones Construction and Consulting

963 Knapp Street NE
Grand Rapids

JR SEPPALA BUILDERS

8889 Marabella Court NE
Rockford

K & R Construction

6606 Hancock Rd
Montague

Kasper Construction LLC

151 Winslow St NW
Walker

KEITH BOVEN BUILDER

5565 BAUER RD
Hudsonville

Keith's Remodeling

16621 Larsen Ave
Gowen

kelly morgan

2060 engleside dr se
Grand Rapids

KEN ENGELKING BUILDERS

3598 BABYLON RD
Allegan

Lakeshore Signature Homes, Inc.

687 Commerce Ct.
Holland

LangCo Builders

2206 Highlander DR. SE
Grand Rapids

Lar's Repairs

6747 Adams St.
Zeeland

Lyons 5 Remodeling

16085 Algoma Ave
Cedar Springs

Magnolia Outdoor Living

3522 Ashford-Dunwoody Rd.

Master Craftsmen Handyman

623 Chary View Ct NW
Kent City

MDH Construction

30 Lakewood Rd.
Twin Lake

Meticulous Builders

2430 Bayne Rd
Twin Lake

Mike Schaap Builders

12969 Greenly St
Holland

Molyneux Construction

15581 40th Ave
Coopersville

Montell Construction

401 Hall St SW
Grand Rapids

MORRIS BUILDERS INC

7221 Davies Dr NE
Rockford

Mueller Builders, LLC

4224 4 Mile Rd
Grand Rapids

Muskegon Window Tinting INC.

2386 S. Getty,
Muskegon

NEW IMAGE REMODELING

2111-A PINE RIDGE DR
Jenison

New Leaf Construction LLC

1251 Century SW
Grand Rapids

North Kent Contractors

16673 Tyrone Ave
Kent City

Novak's Remodeling and Repair

1419 W LAKEWOOD BLVD
Holland

NYSTROM BUILDERS LLC

5995 12 Mile Rd NE
Rockford

Paramount Home Improvements LLC

4621 S Saginaw St
Flint

Perfectly Square Construction

924 Crescent
Grand Rapids

Perkins Custom Remodeling

1338 Franklin St SE
Grand Rapids

Phoenix Home Improvement LLC

4398 Roger B Chaffee Blvd SE
Grand Rapids

PK Building-Remodeling LLC

6588 Tanglewood Dr SE
Grand Rapids

Plastx USA

21 Dixon Avenue

POTTER HOME IMPROVEMENTS

4648 BURGIS AVE SE
Grand Rapids

Premier Roofing Exteriors

3061 Pine Ave SW
Grandville

Professional Home Improvements Inc

3955 W River Dr NE
Comstock Park

PUSHAW BUILDERS LLC

545 LEGGATT ST
Grand Haven

Raha Builders, LLC

18661 Pawnee Dr
Spring Lake

Red Head Rehabs

12004 Hatteras St

Reliable Vendors

1438 Rathbone S.W.
Grand Rapids

Renaissance Exteriors & Remodeling

2540 Sun Valley St
Jenison

Renovational LLC

942 Barnum St SW
Wyoming

RETRACTABLEAWNINGS.COM INC.

16300 NW 48 Avenue

Retro-Craft L.L.C.

8934 Hanna Lake Ave
Caledonia

Riverland Building

4480 W Nestel Rd
Houghton Lake

Robert J. Timmer Builder

3576 Raylynn Lane
Hamilton

SCHEID CONSTRUCTION INC

4296 Palmer Rd.
Belding

Set Apart Construction

9844 Byron Center Ave SW
Byron Center

Sherd Construction And Services LLC

1112 N Black River Drive
Holland

Sikma Construction Services LLC

2300 Lake Michigan Dr NW
Grand Rapids

Smith & Son Building & Remodeling

1409 Sullivan Rd.
Ravenna

Somerset Painting & Professional Improvements

647 S Spinningwheel Ln
Bloomfield Hills

Sunshine Home Improvement

2080 W 136th St
Grant

Sunspace of West Michigan

4625 Clyde Park Ave SW
Wyoming

Terry Thompson Construction LLC

3786 Ravine Vista Dr SE
Grand Rapids

THE PORCH MAN LLC

11999 Wabasis Ave NE
Cedar Springs

Thompson Remodeling

4820 CASCADE RD SE
Grand Rapids

Timmerman John

3878 Highgate Rd
Norton Shores

TJP Designs and Construction LLC

4520 3 Mile Rd NE
Grand Rapids

Total Interiors

491 Houston St
Muskegon

VDB Builder LLC

603 Lugers Rd.
Holland

Victory Builders

4096 OMAHA ST SW
Grandville

Vieau Consruction

Middleville

Viles Builders LLC

11699 Greenway Dr
Holland

Warmzone

12637 S 265 W Suite 100

Weber Lumber

465 Ottawa St
Muskegon

Westhouse Home Improvement LLC

4409 Chappell St
Moline

Windows of Michigan

5800 Balsam Dr
Hudsonville

WOLFE CONSTRUCTION INC

15290 TISDEL AVE
Cedar Springs

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