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"Very impressive in the beginning and looked great. However, after one year, every time a bulb burned out if was a service call and bulb cost. It became costly. " In mid-2013, Outdoor Lighting Prespectives, apparently went belly up along with our prepaid warranty and service contract. I also learned what a crappy wiring job they had initially done. The entire yard had to be completely rewired in 2013 by another lighting outfit, who is also out of biz. Be very careful with these people. Yes the dog and pony demo is very impressive to a dark yard. It amazing what lights will improve the appearance of your dwelling.

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installed with no problems" that I can see and has made a night time visit to adjust lighting and to see the overall job at night. This was much appreciated. We have a few tweaks to be worked out as
noticed "hot spots" he called them (seeing the actual bulb from the street)
has ordered a specialized part to illuminate this. Over all very happy with them and very happy to have a professional look. I rated the pricing as good rather than perfect only because they took me up several notches from my normal lighting budget - overall you will get what you pay for and in this case it is excellent quality.

-Dawn E.

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I don't care about lawns--I planted mine in clover and don't have to mow it. When I do need to mow I use a rotary Fiskars mower, which is great--or a scythe. That's right--a scythe (the European type, which is smaller, and it's very good exercise). Gas-powered mowers, chemical fertilizers and weed killers--all nasty stuff that gets into everyone's air, soil, and water. I'm sure my neighbor doesn't like my wildflowers, semi-wild pockets of fruit bushes, and unmown areas and yes, dandelions (I have 10 acres) but that's too bad. It's better habitat for wildlife, especially the pollinators on which our food supply depends. I think this obsession with the Great American Lawn is a waste of time and resources. Plant some food instead.


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One of the more difficult issues facing you will be making sure you compare apples 'n apples while understanding the differences between apples 'n oranges.

Some things common to all:

How far from your (water) meter pit to the home?

Do you know what sort of water pressure you have?

Those two questions sortta drive the rest.  How many sprinklers you have is a piece of the puzzle but it is lower on the issues list than how much water pressure and gallons per minute of flow (gpm) you have.  Knowing the water pressure and gpm coming to the house is important because it is the info divided by the flow rate of the heads to tell you how many you can run at a time.

 That, plus the number of heads it takes to cover your yard will let them decide on how many zones to cut the yard into (each zone is X number of heads that run at the same time).

Will the different estimates be for systems that are all parts from a single manufaturer or will it be a collection of brands?  Some will tell you that the parts (controller, back-flow, heads and even specific heads) are better from different manufacturers while others will tell you that all from a single manufacturer will give you an optimized system.

And, are the contractors equally certified?  Not only education and experience but certifications from the various manufacturers who's parts they want to use.  And, will their installations be the same?  Will they open trenches all around your yard and be a week getting the stuff layed, connected and back-filled?  Or, will they pull the flexible pipe and be in 'n out in one day with water flowing to cover their intrussion before they leave that day?

Will your system need to be blown out with pressurized air at the end of the season to avoid winter freeze and bursts or will it drain automagically?

I know, I took your simple question and made it hard.

When I bought my system about 9 years ago, I had a variety of estimates and the differences sortta fell into the mess I listed above.  The low estimate was a person who seemed to be from the "get it in the ground and fix it later" school.

The highest estimate was from someone who seemed more concerned about my yard and the final result than I was.  The low person was using parts 'n pieces from a variety of manufacturers.  The high person was certified by the company that made all the parts he was wanting to use and he carried a fairly high rating from them for his past performance..  He would vary for me if I wanted but he had sound reasons from the controller to each of the heads as to why he preferred his "brand".

It doesn't look like you are a member of Angie's List.  Given the size of the investment you are looking at, this might be a great time to join and see how others in your community have rated the contractors you are considering or if there is one you should add to your list. 

My yard is between 12 and 15,000 square feet less the house, deck, two mini-barns and it is interrupted with a number of blocking (blocks the stream of water) evergreens and planting beds.

The low estimate I had was about $2,500 and would take three days to put in from the time they began to trench.  I don't recall how many heads he wanted to put in but if it was off, he'd be able to put another anyplace and tie it to the nearest zone to give me good coverage.  Uh, this was the get it in the ground 'n adjust later person.

The high estimate I had was around $4,500.  This proposal was for seven active zones each having 5 to 7 heads.  There was enough capacity (extra zone controllers and space within the system controller) built in to add drip irrigation at a later date for the planting beds without having to replace anything.  He drew the entire yard and gave me a copy with the heads marked showing the "throw" of each and the overlap he built in to avoid any missed areas.  And, they wanted to arrive in the morning and leave that evening with the system watering to cover their tracks throughout the yard.  One day and they would not leave until it was working as advertised!

I took the high estimate.  I have a neighbor who bought from the other folks.  Both of us are happy.  He is really happy because each time he calls his company for adjustments or corrections (yep, they got it in the ground and are still putzing with it) they are out within the week, they are really easy to do business with and their service calls' costs haven't gone up a whole bunch.

Sorry, you can't look at the price and divide by X number of heads and have a fair comparison.

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1) IF you are talking the root crown - the portion where it is not one solid truck or "bole", but still a solid or near-solid mass of roots coming off the base of the trunk, then that has to come out on way or another. Typically, once you get beyond about a 3 foot circle then you are in the radial portion of the roots where they spread out laterally, and are a foot or more apart, and new roots can grow in that area fro the new tree OK. Of course, be prepared to have to trim some volunteers so the old tree can't come back, and be sure to fertilize the new tree per recommendations because the old roots will still be trying to extract water and food from the soil to support the tree that they do not yet realize is gone. Do NOT put stump killer or poison in the old tree - will kill new one too.

2) The proper commercial way to do this is to have the entire root crown and larger roots removed with a stump grinder - looks like this -

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You need a tree service that can grind down at least two feet below ground level and remove the root crown and larger root segments. If you hve large roots running laterally quite a ways, he can grind them up too - ditto to "trippers" sticking up above ground. Just be sure to have it clear (spray painted) upfront how far he is going for what he quoted - typically about $150 for tree up to 1-2 feet in diameter, up to $500 for a massive sycamore or walnut or cottonwood or redwood with 6 foot diameter crown. While you can rent stump grinders at tooll rental places, I REALLY do not recommend it - the rental ones you can afford to rent for one use are pretty light duty, and they can chew a person up in no time flat if you lose control when it snags in the wood or hits a rock.

3) Another way is to go out to where the massive roots taper off to something you can reasonable cut - say 4-6 inches in diameter, and cut them all in a circle around the stump, then with a come-along or CAREFULLY (not more than a few hundred pounds) with a vehicle with a trailer hitch, put a steady pull on a good rope or strap or chain in a shallow notch cut around the top of the stump (so it does not pop off easy), then while it is being rotated up out of the ground walk around and cut any root you see still attached or trying to lift out of the ground. This works much better if the stump is left about 4-6 feet high so you get some real leverage on it with the pull, but if already cut down short run chain or strap over the top of it and around a large root on the far side of the stump. I use a Sawzall with foot long coarse tooth wood cutting blade for this - goes through roots really fast, and blade is only $1 or so apiece so ruining one or two hitting rocks is no big thing, and also reaches in under the stump better and safer than an axe. I helped a neighbor take out a back yard full of birches this way - took us about half a day to remove about 15 trees with about 6 foot diameter circle of crown and roots, leaving holes about 1-2 feet deep where each tree was. Remember this - whichever way you use to take it out, you will need maybe 1-5 wheelbarrow loads of good growth medium to replace the divot. 

4) Cheaper route - cut off flush with ground level (or leave some stickup as a planter or stool or feeder base or whatever), and plant new tree at least 4 feet away from old crown, in a spot between the old roots.

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'Reasonable' is one of those words that means wildly divergent things to different people.  Check with your local high school to see if they have  any sort of agricultural program.  If yes, perhaps someone in that program could help you.  Being a landscaper myself, I must say it sounds like you want something that is - first and foremost - cheap.   This is NOT the best way to look for any service.  You would be better served looking for 'competant' than with 'cheap'.  The nicer you want your flowerbed to look, the more important it is to find someone who REALLY knows what they are doing.
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Natural stones will have some degree of variance given the lack of pre-made consistency.

 

1/2" is too much from stone to stone and should be able to be fixed with additional leveling sand. 

 

 

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Outdoor Lighting reviews in Grand Rapids

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Good, prompt, quality work. They were also very responsive when I called them to replace a faulty timer on the new system. Highly recommended...
- Karen D.
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This company is fraudulent. They have installed lights and over charged. They indicate that they are the only ones who can provide light bulbs but if you just
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the internet you can find the very same bulbs for 1/10th the price and it takes seconds to install them. They over bill. The entire
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Park Estates Home Owners Association has stopped doing business with them due to their outrageous pricing... If you do business with this company beware! Be careful!
don't make a mistake. They put on a good dog and pony show but once you bite, they reel you in and over charge along the way.
- David F.
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After my request for estimate,
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immediately followed up with an onsite review of the system.
A few extra comments. I already had an irrigation timer, buried pipes, and several valves, all fed by a hose-end timer off the house hose bib, to water my garden with drip irrigation. There were just enough zones available on my timer to cover the front yard. So,
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and team used my existing timer for the new yard zones. In addition, they connected my garden zones to the new irrigation pipework and removed the hose-end setup. This was a great little "bonus" and never caused
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- Carl K.
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Very professional, very good communicator, wonderful product. But (the worst word in the English language) the products are SO expensive - I'm not an expert, but my guess is that if your house isn't well into 7 figures, you aren't in the budget for this type of lighting.
- Richard M.
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was engaged, punctual, responsive and spent time with us to make sure he understood what we wanted. He also provided thoughtful ideas, advice and direction that we never would have considered ourselves. He is very serious about landscaping and masonry and delivered on his promise to give us a great result. We asked for his thoughts on a masonry/driveway project we are considering, and he is now working on the design for us. We think we have found a landscape contractor we can work with for the forseeable future.
- Greg L.
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- Steven W.
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was easy to work with, punctual, very professional, and the work was done on time at estimate given. I have recommended Artistic TreeScapes, LLC to others who may be looking to have trimming and/or landscaping work done and intend to use them again this year for all of my landscaping work.
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341 LINCOLN AVE
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8647 Maple Ln
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Alfresco Landscapes

2914 - 3 Mile Rd., NW
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Allendale

Ambrose Electrical Services

PO Box 8392
Holland

Amp Electric

4910 S Hilton Park Rd
Fruitport

Aquarius Lawn Sprinkling

3210 Kissing Rock Ave
Lowell

Bridge St. Electric

812 Bridge St NW
Grand Rapids

Bridge St. Electric

812 Bridge St NW
Grand Rapids

Cascade Electrical Services

PO Box 888679
Grand Rapids

CM Electric LLC

1040 Arianna NW
Grand Rapids

Creative Brickscapes Inc

4809 Riemen Dr SE
Grand Rapids

DreamScape Designs & landscaping

791 E 16th St.
Holland

DreamScapes Designs & Landscaping

791 East 16th Street
Holland

Dykstra Landscape Management, INC.

1805 Industrial Park Dr.
Grand Haven

Dykstra Outdoor Services

PO Box 208
Hudsonville

Dykstra Outdoor Services

PO Box 208
Hudsonville

EGYPT CREEK LAWN CARE

6391 THREE MILE
Ada

ELECTRICAL MAINTENANCE CORP

16710 JUNIPER DR
Conklin

Everetts Landscape Management Inc

7884 Eastern Ave SE
Grand Rapids

Grandscape Landscaping

2239 112th Ave
Allegan

GREAT LAKES EDGING

206 E Front st.

GREENSCAPE LANDSCAPING INC

823 Gladstone SE
East Grand Rapids

GROUND CONTROL roperty management

18688 174 ave spring lake
Muskegon

Harder & Warner Nursery Inc

6464 Broadmoor SE Ave
Caledonia

Harry's lawn and snow

538 52nd st. SE
Grand Rapids

HI-LO ELECTRIC CO

1714 MULLINS AVE NW
Grand Rapids

Holland Hydroponic Oulet - H2O

587 E 8th Street
Holland

HOLLANDIA GARDENS INC

3612 128th Ave
Holland

Hydro-Turf Irrigation

6229 Pyramid Ln.
Rockford

J and F Lawn and Snow Service

2222 Stowevalley dr se
Kentwood

K & A Lawn and Snow

5510 Wellman Rd
Parma

KNAPP VALLEY GARDENS

4100 KNAPP ST NE
Grand Rapids

LandArc Studio LLC

2078 Eaststone St. SE
Caledonia

LANDSCAPE DESIGN SERVICES INC

7351 W OLIVE RD
Holland

LANDSCAPE IMPRESSIONS DESIGN

3807 68TH ST SE
Caledonia

Larrys Stump Grinding and Tree Service

3951 Eastern Ave SE, #100
Grand Rapids

LEGEND SERVICES INC

1242 Comstock St
Marne

MDH Construction

30 Lakewood Rd.
Twin Lake

New Life Arboricultural Services

1917 Hutchinson Ave SE
Grand Rapids

OUTDOOR EXPRESSIONS LANDSCAPING LLC

6312 GOSSARD AVE
East Lansing

Precision Landscape Management

PO Box 90
Comstock Park

PREFERRED LANDSCAPE INC

PO Box 229
Sand Lake

PREMIER LAWNCARE & LANDSCAPE, LLC

7595 28th Ave
Hudsonville

Procare Landscape Management

675 Clyde Ct
Byron Center

R & R Landscape Supply

1957 COMMERCE ST
Muskegon

Rivertown Landscapes

11950 Northland Dr NE
Rockford

RJM Design Inc

1971 E Beltline Ave NE
Grand Rapids

ROPER & DYKSTRA LANDSCAPING

5925 134TH AVE
Hamilton

ROSEMONT NURSERY

2428 Elmridge NW
Grand Rapids

ROYAL LANDSCAPE INC

3085 Dixie Ave SW
Grandville

RRR Lawn & Landscape, LLC

6757 Cascade Rd SE
Grand Rapids

Sherd Construction And Services LLC

1112 N Black River Drive
Holland

superior exteriors

314 w muskegon

Supreme Lawn Care & Design

18196 Oberwald Ln
Spring Lake

Sustainable Water Management,LLC

6757 Cascade Rd SE
Grand Rapids

Tandem Electric

5945 Airline Rd # B
Fruitport

The Outdoor Design Co.

5265 128th Ave
Holland

Timber Ridge Wood Products

4335 Abrigador Trl NE
Comstock Park

Torchwood Landscaping

3923 28th St. SE 109
Grand Rapids

Touch of Green Landscaping LLC

13103 Shaner Ave NE
Cedar Springs

Town & Country Group

9327 RILEY ST
Zeeland

Trademark Electric

4647 Eckert Rd
Freeport

Twin Lakes Nursery, Inc

3680 Michigan NE
Grand Rapids

Vander Hyde

1058 Scribner Ave NW
Grand Rapids

Viles Builders LLC

11699 Greenway Dr
Holland

Webb Electric

1675 Michigan Street NE
Grand Rapids

Wireworks Electric Inc

PO Box 888312
Grand Rapids

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