How to silence a squeaking floor

How to silence a squeaking floor
Be sure to contact a flooring company for your squeaky floor repairs.

Be sure to contact a flooring company for your squeaky floor repairs.

Dear Angie: We need help with our squeaking floors. Our house is about 29 years old and has carpeting over all of the floors except the kitchen, foyer and some bathroom areas. The first and second floors have areas that squeak and there seem to be more squeaks every day. What can I do about this problem? – Mary Jane P., Overland Park, Kan.

Dear Mary Jane: I would recommend contacting a flooring company to help with this repair. The squeaking you hear is likely sections of subfloor rubbing against each other, or the floor joists, where nails have come loose. These squeaks, creaks or groans occur over time because the wooden subfloor naturally swells, warps and dries with humidity.

There are 4-inch screws available on the market for the purpose of fixing squeaky floors. These can be screwed right through the carpet to secure the subfloor to the joists without having to pull the carpet up. That will usually eliminate the squeak, but it can be a bit of a process, which is why you might consider bringing in a professional for the job.

For noisy hardwood floors, the process is similar. The more intrusive method is taking up the floorboards, locating the joists, and screwing in the floorboards more tightly. A less intrusive method is to drive screws directly through the floorboards lower than the walking surface; then, cover the holes with wood filler. Since both methods disturb the floor's appearance, consider having floors refinished after the repair to produce the most attractive results.

Squeaking stairs are a different scenario. In that event, you have to get to the backside of the stairs, using a wood shim to fill the gaps between the stair tread and riser.

If a major repair is involved and the carpet needs to be removed, you’ll want to talk to your service professional about the best options for reinstalling or replacing the carpet. It could impact the overall cost of the project.


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To add to the answer above , there are some other tricks to the trade that can be done to the floors and stairs. Alot will depend on the situation of the problem. On the stairs , I saved a woman a thousand dollars before she replaced her whole stair case. A little special glue with the right tools , she was a happy camper. Steve

Your repair of squeaky floors is actually only partialy & barely correct information. The repair is very simple if there is a crawl space under the house. Tapping shingles between the subflooing and the joists will stop the squeaks. Those squeaks are very specifically from the subflooring ( old diagonal 1x6 ) moving up and down on the nails that, as you stated correctly, have space from shrinkage of the subflooring. Spraying WD40 may also help reduce the noise if squirted in that exact area. Shingles will always work to stop the subloor from moving up and down on that nail causing that horrible squeak. Screwing from the top is a hit and miss the joist proposition and ruining the hardwood floring with holes all over the place. I would surely enjoy seeing a clarification of that repair process. contact me for further details. I have been a licensed C15 floor contractor in California since 1975 and grew up in the family business since 1947. I am also a respected NWFA Associate. Thank you

I have squeakly floors in the living room 15x20. What can I expect to pay for doing what you recommend? And what should I look for in a contractor who will do thete job? All contractor will say, I can do the job. How do I get a good one?

We have had moderate success with Squeak No More kits which includes driver to screw the included break-away screws into joists. Available for carpet and wood floors.

We only yesterday returned from England. While staying in a motel in Manchester near the airport, we discovered very loud squeaks in the floor. I solved one problem near the bathroom by stepping over the loose boards. They were loud and just wondered how the people on the 3rd floor handled it.

Tom, Just an hour ago I walked across my living room floor and thought "there has GOT to be something to stop the squeaking!" I really like your shingle idea, and think it is actually within my minimal competency to try this. With my skills, drilling holes through my floors would not be a good idea...are you talking about a roofing shingle?? Thanks!

Try sprinkling some baby powder on the culprits. Sweep the baby powder into the cracks. Add more as needed. You may need to repeat a few times to get the baby powder to really seep into the problem area. You will also have to repeat this process periodically, however it seems worth it--$2 baby powder and minimal elbow grease to thousands of dollars in repairs and ripping up your hardwood boards. Good luck!

You're absolutely right. Much more cost effective and works just fine. I've done it in several different places I've rented over the years. Presently we have to change the carpet in a house we own in PA and will be "fixing" the squeeks at that time.

Like the baby powder idea, sprinkle a generous amount of corn starch over your hardwood floor and work it in with a broom. Corn starch has no scent in it like baby powder does, If you can leave it down for a period of time while walking over the floor during your normal course of activities, your problem will be solved in a few days to a week.

How about some tips on squeaky hardwood floors? We rent and can't do any screwing or real work on it.

Along with fixing the initial squeak, consideration should be given to the cause of the problem. Often the cause of squeaky or cupped hardwood floors is high moisture in the crawlspace. If the humidity problem in the crawlspace is not properly addressed, then any repair will be temporary. Some steps to control crawlspace moisture include; fixing any plumbing leaks, installing a vapor barrier, installing a dehumidifier either temporarily or permanently. If you have squeaky or cupped floors, always suspect crawlspace moisture problems. www.indoorairqcr.com

Squeaky floor boards? Try this first, it works. Sprinkle talc powder or gold bond on floor and sweep it slowly back and fourth, working it in the joints.

I have the same problem with squeaky hardwood floors. Mu house is 50 years old, and my family has lived in the house since 1970. Now I inherited the house after my parents' deaths. O'Berry Enterprises Inc. of Ringwood, IL (800-459-8428) makes the "Squeak No More" Kit mentioned in one of the prior posts, and also counter-snap screws for hardwood floors. The company also has You Tube videos for doing it yourself (search squeaky floors). I cannot get underneath the floorboards because of lower floor ceilings, so I have to rely on driving screws at the joist and between the joists from above. That requires locating the joists using a stud-finder. The problem is - it's difficult for a do-it-yourselfer who doesn't do much of that. You need a really good drill, preferably electric with a lot of juice to get through the boards. It's more difficult to drill the screws in from above than they make it seem in the video. I even called a floor professional and he refused to use that method - he would only work from below, which is impossible in my situation. He didn't want to chance ruining my nice floors from above. I'm going to give it one more shot soon myself - I've been putting it off all summer! If it's a choice between the squeaks vs. ruining my nice, refinished hardwood floors, the floors win and I'll live with the squeaks.

I bought a house that squeaks all OVER the place. We were going to redo the basement so before covering the basement ceiling, I had access to the floor above (in MOST of the house). I used liquid nails and put it along EVERY joist the entire distance, and then toe nailed in screws. This fixed 99.9% of them. I have ONE spot in the kitchen I was unable to fix, but didn't notice till later. The liquid nails filled space (like the shingles) and also secured the boards to the joists to keep movement from occuring

all my floors sqeak in my 1929 Sears house. Who do I call to fix it? in the VA area.

Sprinkle talc from a hardware store along the squeaky floor and let it work its way into the squeak. Works like a charm!

One simple solution is to sprinkle talcolm (list would not allow me to spell this correctly) powder where the squeak is--usually helps for minor squeaks.

The recommendation to install the screws right through the carpet is disturbing - I cringe at the thought of a baby crawling along the carpet, only to snag it's kneecap on a screw head.

The $1.99 option is a liberal sprinkling of baby powder over the squeaky area. As you sweep it up, the powder gets between the noisy boards and acts as a dry lubricant.

Steve, Would appreciate more info on the stair fix. Just completed a renovation, but my General Contractor wouldn't touch the stair squeaks (recommended replacement...gee thanks).

Steve-- I want to work on my stairs from underneath--what kind of glue do you recommend?

How about some tips on squeaky hardwood floors? We rent and can't do any screwing or real work on it.

My husband used the above mentioned product and it did NO good at all. After using about 70 of the screws, it was time to call it quits and just live with the squeak!!

As a temporary fix for carpeted stairs and other limited areas, a little baby powder will drift down into the spaces and lubricate to stop squeeks and is easily vacuumed.

I've heard that the break away screws work really well on the right applications but like an above statement said it's a hit or miss with getting into the floor joists.

What if you have a squeaky floor covered with carpet, but it is over a basement? Is there an option for coming in from below? My house is from 1964.

An earlier posting by "Tom" suggested using shingles as a wedge between the top of the joist and the bottom of the sub-floor. I prefer to use "shims" instead. You can buy a bunch for very little money; they come tapered and are not as wide as shingles making them easier to drive than wider shingles. It really helps to have a helper on the carpet side of the floor while the worker is underneath. Easier to pinpoint the suspect areas. Use your cell phones or intercom on your wired phone to communicate with each other. This method assumes one has access via a crawl space or basement.

Shingles are for roofs, not joists.

Use talcom powder in the cracks. Works 98% of the time. Rub it down in the cracks and sweep off the rest...

But what options do you have when the entire 2nd floor bedroom squeaks because not enough bracing was used on the floor joists. The entire floor is apparently slightly moving when walking on. I've had people tell me to pull up carpet and flooring and reinforce joists and I have others tell me to take off the drywall from underneath, install plywood to the underside of the floor, then redrywall the ceiling.

I would have to agree with Mr. Tom M. A lot of Home Imp. Ctrs sell wood shims, for among other things handling squeaky floors, just tap with a rubber mallet between the floor joist and sub floor, gently and definitely not forcing the shim. After that just cut with a utility knife but do be careful utility knifes are razor sharp. The important thing to keep in mind is not to force the shim...

For a quick, albeit temporary, fix, sprinkle baby powder onto the offending area and then sweep into the cracks. It works and you don't have to mar the surface or refinish your floors.

The methods cited work very well - but only if the problem is as described. We have large joists on 24" centers. Some of the subfloor joints are not on the joists; it is these that squeak and the only possible fix would be to install either new subflooring or metal 'binder plates' to join the squeaking subfloor 4x8's.

i have wood floors put on a concrete slab that squeek what is the solution for that?

If its a two story house and the prolem is on the 2nd story the first information is right on...

Growing up in New England hardwood floors always squeeked. If there are gaps in the joints, sprinkle some baby powder into the gaps and after a while the squeek will go away

If the floors are bare you can sprinkle baby power into the spaces. It will help the squeak of board against board.

Another thing you can try on uncarpeted floors is talc powder along the seams. Works in and reduces or eliminates a lot of noise. Of course if the floorboards need to be screwed down, this is not the answer.

Before spending any large amount of money, simply try sprinkling baby powder over the noisey area & let it seep in over the next week. Seems to work 50% of the time

Get some short drywall screws. Go to the basement and drive the screws up through the subfloor into the hardwood flooring. Just make sure the screw are shorter than the thickness of the flooring and subflooring.

I just used spiral nails, drove then through the floor to the sub-floor, and it worked just fine. Total cost: 75 cents.

Another thing you can try on uncarpeted floors is talc powder along the seams. Works in and reduces or eliminates a lot of noise. Of course if the floorboards need to be screwed down, this is not the answer.

Please BEWARE...I had very squeaky floors when I moved into my 35 yo townhome, and I hired a contractor to screw down squeaky locations on my first and second floors. For some time after that (but not before) I noticed a creaking sound at night in the loft area. Then after around a year or two I heard a colossal creak...like something snapped in two. I didn't hear the creaking anymore after that, but I did have a shift between the floors that shows on my wall.

I agree with Tom Macedo: top-down is a horrible, kludgy way to fix squeaks on plank floors, or if there is good/refinishable hardwood under carpet. The original white oak in my 1920s house is in great shape, so I would definitely not want a bunch of wood-filler spots in it. Although I've had some success puffing talc into squeaky spots FROM UNDERNEATH, there are some recalcitrant places I will hire a professional wood-floor specialist to fix. The only way I would make holes from the top is if the construction is too cheap to matter, or the subfloor completely inaccessible.

Tom Macedo, What kind of singles? Wood, etc. Please let me know and I will try them and report back. Thanks

How to fix a squeaking floor: Don't. Call someone else to do it. Not too helpful...

I saw a feature on diy about repairing squeaks in floors. 1) sprinkle baby powder into the cracks. Let it work in and re-apply as needed. 2)have someone stand on the squeaking area. Another person is in the basement locating the squeak. When located, place a shim between the joist and subflooring. I resolves, slim can be screwed into place and excess trimmed off.

That's a lot of work for a creaky floor. I'd let it creak.

"Dries with humidity"??? Is she kidding???

Talc applied to floors is an Rx for a fall for the over-50 crowd. Don't do it! (friendly nurse)

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